• The $8,000 build returns
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Hey everyone! If you remember [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1270794&highlight="]the last thread I made[/URL], a client of mine approached me to build them an $8,000 CAD computer. Unfortunately it wasn't approved for that quarter's budget so they bumped it to this quarter. So far here's what I've got: [URL="http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=23087132"]LINK[/URL] I've thrown out the idea of getting dual Xeons since the Quadro cards don't work in any of the motherboards, which led me to a different case as well. Thoughts on RAID cards? That motherboard has eight SATA3 ports and I plan on running each group of four drives in their own RAID10. Hopefully it will be back in stock when they give me the green light sometime next month. Not sure why y'all keep rating my threads dumb. An $8,000 workstation != $8,000 gaming PC. Perhaps yer just jelly.
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What is your profession if I may ask?
Why are you getting 840 Evos? Surely, if you can spare $8k for a PC, you can get some 840 Pros.
I forgot the reasons. The GTX Titan has almost double the cuda cores than the K5000 and it's 700$ less. I chose a workstation x79 motherboard specially because it already has Ivy-Bridge-E support. I chose a 12core processor because it's better than the 2687W by much and it's a newer Ivy-Bridge-E processor.
[QUOTE=Troll;42553584]Why are you getting 840 Evos? Surely, if you can spare $8k for a PC, you can get some 840 Pros.[/QUOTE] Are the Pro's better? If so, I'll put them in the cart. Thanks :) [QUOTE=xExigent;42547230]What is your profession if I may ask?[/QUOTE] The PC isn't for me, it's for a client. They do 3D modeling/rendering, video editing, image editing, etc. Basically all the things. [QUOTE=Flarey;42555167]I forgot the reasons. The GTX Titan has almost double the cuda cores than the K5000 and it's 700$ less. I chose a workstation x79 motherboard specially because it already has Ivy-Bridge-E support. I chose a 12core processor because it's better than the 2687W by much and it's a newer Ivy-Bridge-E processor.[/QUOTE] Are Titan's better for AutoCAD work? I was always under the impression that nothing beats the Quadro's in that respect. I like that processor, but DAMN 12 cores? I wonder if AutoCAD and the Adobe suite can even use that many? I was attracted to the X79 Deluxe because it has eight SATA3 ports, recommendations for RAID cards to put in the board you suggested?
AutoCAD says it's mainly a single-threaded application except for '2D regeneration' and 'MentalRay rendering'. In general many multiples of threads (or cores) is good if you're doing a lot of rendering, or if you're running a server that does rendering or lots of different tasks. Otherwise most programs are single-threaded, and won't be able to take advantage of having 4+ cores.
[QUOTE=MTMod;42557588]Are the Pro's better? If so, I'll put them in the cart. Thanks :) Are Titan's better for AutoCAD work? I was always under the impression that nothing beats the Quadro's in that respect. I like that processor, but DAMN 12 cores? I wonder if AutoCAD and the Adobe suite can even use that many? I was attracted to the X79 Deluxe because it has eight SATA3 ports, recommendations for RAID cards to put in the board you suggested?[/QUOTE] Titan's are good for Adobe and AutoCAD work Since it only has 4 SATA3 Ports I would get this card [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117214[/url] You can get 8 more ports thanks to a mini-sas to sata converter :)
[QUOTE=Flarey;42562223]Titan's are good for Adobe and AutoCAD work Since it only has 4 SATA3 Ports I would get this card [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117214[/url] You can get 8 more ports thanks to a mini-sas to sata converter :)[/QUOTE] The few pieces of literature I can find that compares the Titan with a Quadro are in favor of the Quadro. It makes sense though, a workstation graphics card is going to outperform a gaming graphics card every day of the week in stuff like CAD. I've altered the wishlist, any more suggestions?
[QUOTE=Flarey;42546875][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/v9HkJll.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] >desktop-grade hard disk >non-ecc ram >desktop-grade motherboard (admittedly does not matter too much, as long as it takes ecc ram, xeons, and is well built) >poor choice of psu (overspecced, dodgy brand) >xeon e5 v2 is a poor choice of cpu, high-end e3 v3 is a better choice in this scenario
Why cooler master while corsair is way freakin better if it comes to PSU. Also why water cooling, it's an un-needed expansion in this build.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;42613146]>desktop-grade hard disk >non-ecc ram >desktop-grade motherboard (admittedly does not matter too much, as long as it takes ecc ram, xeons, and is well built) >poor choice of psu (overspecced, dodgy brand) >xeon e5 v2 is a poor choice of cpu, high-end e3 v3 is a better choice in this scenario[/QUOTE] I updated the drives, good call! If you can find me a consumer motherboard that supports ECC then I'm all for it. I can't seem to find one. I changed the PSU - not sure why I didn't go with Corsair in the first place. Thanks for pointing it out! Recommendations for a better CPU? [QUOTE=Netheous;42615912]Why cooler master while corsair is way freakin better if it comes to PSU. Also why water cooling, it's an un-needed expansion in this build.[/QUOTE] See above about the PSU. I figured it would be a good idea since the 800D and the underside of a desk aren't as efficient at cooling as a server chassis in a data center. We're right at $8,000 now, and it's looking pretty spiffy!
[QUOTE=MTMod;42642621]I updated the drives, good call! If you can find me a consumer motherboard that supports ECC then I'm all for it. I can't seem to find one. I changed the PSU - not sure why I didn't go with Corsair in the first place. Thanks for pointing it out! Recommendations for a better CPU? See above about the PSU. I figured it would be a good idea since the 800D and the underside of a desk aren't as efficient at cooling as a server chassis in a data center. We're right at $8,000 now, and it's looking pretty spiffy![/QUOTE] If you are buying a consumer motherboard, go with Gigabyte. They are the only manufacturers that make their consumer boards to anywhere near server-grade standards. I don't know if Xeons work these days with non-ECC ram, if they do then fair enough, unless the work is extremely data critical (eg high load database server), just go with normal ram. Get good ram though, i.e. Samsung Green. And like I said, get a xeon e3 series v3 (e3 = closer to desktop i7 range, v3 = haswell).
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