Dragon Age 2 features Securom, unlike what EA claimed.
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[quote]When BioWare announced the DRM restrictions for the PC version of Dragon Age II, many gamers sighed with relief at the exclusion of the infamous SecuROM DRM. But even though the game's forums specifically noted that it "does not use SecuROM," it looks like the widely loathed DRM scheme was included anyway.
According to a report from consumer advocacy site Reclaim Your Game, as spotted by Destructoid, the PC version of DAII not only contains SecuROM, but also fails to mention this information to the consumer in any form.[/quote]
[url=http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/03/dragon-age-ii-features-hated-securom-despite-previous-ea-claims.ars]Source[/url]
Yes EA, I can see you're already working hard on your 'the pc will be our biggest platform' motto.
Also, can we have someone check the back of their box if it really doesn't mention anything about Securom?
This kind of bullshit promotes pirating instead of discouraging it, why haven't they realized this?
activision has been on the devil's throne to long and EA don't like that.
Didn't they get sued the last time they tried to implement this shit?
[quote]According to a report from consumer advocacy site Reclaim Your Game, as spotted by Destructoid, the PC version of DAII not only contains SecuROM, [b]but also fails to mention this information to the consumer in any form[/b].[/quote]
We'll just deny that is has securom at all, the perfect plan
Been reading through the DA 2 forums, they keep trying to defend themselves against the accusations of the DRM being hidden in the game by blaming it on the user for not understanding correctly.
[url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/1[/url]
[quote]What they've done is create a completely separate product - which granted, does share common files - but does not do anything that securom drm does. Hence, it is not securom.
I will grant that using those common files and having traces of the securom name is not great - but that does not change what it is, and what it is not.[/quote]
[url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/30[/url]
[QUOTE=Ninx;28560988]Been reading through the DA 2 forums, they keep trying to defend themselves against the accusations of the DRM being hidden in the game by blaming it on the user.
[url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/1[/url]
[url]http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6194280/30[/url][/QUOTE]
Hahaha, what's up with Bioware posting there and getting all defensive lately? Some of my friends have sent me links to threads where they got into huge arguments with people who were complaining about the game. Jeez Bioware, have you ever heard of good PR?
[quote]Because it is not securom. They are both products made by Sony DADC. And like I mentioned above they do use some common files - that does not make this Securom any more than using a microsoft server connection library make our game into Games for Windows Live.
Ok - we could have said it uses Sony DADC Release Control (which is the name of the product). Would that have helped?
Also to be clear - i'm not a lawyer. Nor do I have any intention of being one (no offense to lawyers). When we posted the initial information it was done to try to clarify things not hide anything.
I can appreciate that perhaps the wording was not what you would have prefered, but again not intentionally done that way, and I was also not expecting us to be nit-picking over language on this either.[/quote]
They wouldn't say it but it's basically a dumbed down version of securom no matter how they're trying to play it off.
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Has SecuROM registry entries, lol
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Has SecuROM registry entries, lol[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY[/media]
[QUOTE=usaokay;28560091]Someone at EA: Oh shit, people are starting to like us! Quick, come up with something that will bring our reputation down![/QUOTE]
It's sad that any of you guys trusted EA in the first place.
[QUOTE=Bllasae;28561620]It's sad that any of you guys trusted EA in the first place.[/QUOTE]
They seemed to be going on the right track, picked up Brutal legend, launched the Dead Space IP.
Welp, now I guess we've had our suspicions re-invalidated.
I dont get it, steam is the only DRM you need, DRM with benefits :science:
So the new technique for dealing with the fact that legitimate gamers hate Securom is "Just lie about it"?
[QUOTE=dude2193;28561805]DRM with benefits[/QUOTE]
Somehow that made me laugh a little
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;28561977]So the new technique for dealing with the fact that legitimate gamers hate Securom is "Just lie about it"?[/QUOTE]
What they don't know won't hurt them.
well it seem to have worked, if they announced that it'd be using securom months or weeks before, people would go 'omg noo not gonna buy this and you shouldnt either'
I was going to buy this game but if it has Securom then I sure as hell won't.
[QUOTE=BrQ;28562180]well it seem to have worked, if they announced that it'd be using securom months or weeks before, people would go 'omg noo not gonna buy this and you shouldnt either'[/QUOTE]
Haha, are you kidding me? I've never known ANYBODY who made a claim like that about an upcoming game they were previously excited about who actually kept their word and went through with their personal boycott. I've had friends complain about everything there is to a major upcoming game, from launch DLC to being a $60 PC game to SecuROM to you name it, and they still ended up lining up at midnight to buy it on launch day.
I was thinking of getting this one too, oh well.
[QUOTE=Shugo;28562308]Haha, are you kidding me? I've never known ANYBODY who made a claim like that about an upcoming game they were previously excited about who actually kept their word and went through with their personal boycott. I've had friends complain about everything there is to a major upcoming game, from launch DLC to being a $60 PC game to SecuROM to you name it, and they still ended up lining up at midnight to buy it on launch day.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely hated L4D2 and called it nothing but DLC, a glorified expansion pack for the price of a full game, and shit in general.
Doesn't change the fact that I pre-ordered it long before the demo was even announced, and have more hours logged on it than L4D.
Its funny because any kind of DRM gets cracked.
[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;28563173]Its funny because any kind of DRM gets cracked.[/QUOTE]
Catch is, circumventing the DRM is illegal, so you still breaking the law even though the shitty DRM prevents you from playing the game you legally purchased.
so the only way to play the game you legally bought is to break the law and illegally circumvent the DRM of something you legitimately own.
:pseudo:
[QUOTE=goon165;28564732]Catch is, circumventing the DRM is illegal, so you still breaking the law even though the shitty DRM prevents you from playing the game you legally purchased.
so the only way to play the game is to illegally circumvent the DRM.
:pseudo:[/QUOTE]
Not in Europe, if you claim the DRM hinders you from playing your legal copy of the game.
Same with DRM on Music or Films.
:frogc00l:
anyone remember F.E.A.R?, it flipped out on you and wouldn't let you play the game if you had anything remotely suspicious on your PC or even something as simple as [B]having two CD drives. [/B]
This shit still hasn't gotten any better and needs to stop.
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[QUOTE=Van-man;28564847]Not in Europe, if you claim the DRM hinders you from playing your legal copy of the game.
Same with DRM on Music or Films.
:frogc00l:[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately in Capitalist America, the same rules do not apply, They don't give us the benefit of the doubt, they should, but they don't.
instead of "innocent until proven guilty" like they say it's instead most definitely "guilty until proven innocent."
[QUOTE=dude2193;28561805]I dont get it, steam is the only DRM you need, DRM with benefits :science:[/QUOTE]
except steam isn't even effective as a DRM
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28565161]except steam isn't even effective as a DRM[/QUOTE]
You're implying that DRM is even effective in the slightest.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28565161]except steam isn't even effective as a DRM[/QUOTE]
It doesn't make the public opinion of the game plummet, or screw over the customer ether.
It is the best solution we have at this point, until someone comes up with a more secure way to do this (which they probably wont)
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28565161]except steam isn't even effective as a DRM[/QUOTE]
You mean as effective as Securom or all the other junk that gets circumvented in no time, most of the time even pre release?
At least Steam isn't a pain like the alternatives these days are.
Great pirates will love this :yarr:
I'm just going to play the devil's advocate here, but this really looks like there is no SecuROM at all, just some common files also used by SecuROM, hence all the alarms going off.
You people are really getting upset over nothing.
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