Winnipeg man: Having to mow the grass along the road in front of my house is "far worse than slavery
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Source - [url=http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Grass-cutting-fight-put-off-indefinitely-222367431.html]The Winnipeg Free Press[/url]
[quote]He's arguing his Charter rights are being violated by the city in that he's essentially performing illegal "forced labour" by being sanctioned for not mowing the boulevard along side his Henry Dormer Drive home.
After receiving repeated fines, which have been tacked onto his property tax bill, the city finally took him to bylaw court, setting in motion what could be a much lengthier legal battle for Hykawy than he first envisioned.
[b]"I say this is far worse than slavery," he said. "What makes this far worse than slavery is back in the day slaves were kept. They were clothed — maybe not well, they were fed – maybe not well, but they were provided equipment and given what they needed to provide the work," Hykawy said.[/b]
"In the case of the city, we're not clothed, we're not fed, we don't have paid living, and the city isn't offering any tools, or utensils or fuel to mow the boulevard, so this is actually worse than slavery," Hykawy said.[/quote]
By the way, this guy is a retired Canadian Forces veteran. He's clearly no stranger to rules.
Winnipeg man and Florida man are probably best friends.
Just pissed off because Winnipeg lost the Labour Day game again.
Looks like the exercise of all of that extra grass mowing would do him some good
Looking at Henry Dormer Drive on Street View, these houses are massive. We're talking $200k-$500k or even more.
And yet he can't afford a push mower
tbh any canadian should rush to this guys house with a whip and start cheering "get a move on nigger!" right behind him, it'll make mowing the lawn a bit easier for him
Why should he have to? I live in winnipeg, and we don't mow our boulevard, the city does.
If he doesn't want it done, why should he have to do it for free when it's of no difference to anyone?
who in the right mind ever thinks its a good idea to call something 'worse than slavery' surely theres some other way to express how shithouse it is
To be fair, the grass in question does fall on city property and is separated from his own lawn by a sidewalk and a fence.
But making that analogy makes it incredibly difficult to take your argument seriously.
why doesn't he take the grass out and fill it with cement/rocks like he did his other yards
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;42083695]To be fair, the grass in question does fall on city property and is separated from his own lawn by a sidewalk and a fence.
But making that analogy makes it incredibly difficult to take your argument seriously.[/QUOTE]
yeah like, he's right, it's not his property it's IN FRONT of his property so it's the cities duty to keep it mown or to incentivize him to do it, but then he has to go on and say that and now everyone's gonna think he's a jerkoff
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;42083507]tbh any canadian should rush to this guys house with a whip and start cheering "get a move on nigger!" right behind him, it'll make mowing the lawn a bit easier for him[/QUOTE]
I'd volunteer if I got a pass card from the local community allowing it
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42083776]yeah like, he's right, it's not his property it's IN FRONT of his property so it's the cities duty to keep it mown or to incentivize him to do it, but then he has to go on and say that and now everyone's gonna think he's a jerkoff[/QUOTE]
Actually it's entirely possible it is his property. Since that's how sidewalks often work. But it's a property with an obligation clause (keep it open as a public sidewalk and keep it clean)
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42083776]yeah like, he's right, it's not his property it's IN FRONT of his property so it's the cities duty to keep it mown or to incentivize him to do it, but then he has to go on and say that and now everyone's gonna think he's a jerkoff[/QUOTE]
Who gives a fuck about what this guy says? Humans are twats, this is no news to anyone.
His analogy may be crude, but being forced to do work without pay or suffering fines for not doing it can be accurately described as enslaved work.
[QUOTE=Karmah;42083829]but being forced to do work without pay or suffering fines for not doing it can be accurately described as enslaved work.[/QUOTE]
Well by that logic, being fined for littering is slavery. It's more work to find a garbage can or carry your trash with you than it is to throw it on the ground.
No city bylaw can be equated to slavery unless it's a city bylaw that allows slavery.
Yeah I agree that his analogy is absolutely awful, but this whole forced labour is awful.
Normally you'd hire someone for this, but instead this guy is forced to do it and is fined for not doing it, which sounds like total horseshit to me.
I think my father had to do something like this. Some guy came to our door and told the owner of the household to mow this sloped hill across the road. I don't know the details considering I was like 9 years old, but my father mowed it often.
If it's on his property then it's his responsibility to keep it tidy if that's part of the contract with living there. If its not on his property then he shouldn't have to touch it. The city/neighborhood should hire that out.
I would just salt the lawn and kill all plant life on it, leaving a barren patch of dirt, if they were forcing me to take care of it.
Could someone post a picture?
So does that mean he'll be the city's slave as long as he doesn't have to mow anymore?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;42083886]Well by that logic, being fined for littering is slavery. It's more work to find a garbage can or carry your trash with you than it is to throw it on the ground.
No city bylaw can be equated to slavery unless it's a city bylaw that allows slavery.[/QUOTE]
Now that example is kind of 'out of bounds' as it is defacing public property. Lack of action in his case does not deface public property, ie the boulevard.
[QUOTE=OvB;42083937]If it's on his property then it's his responsibility to keep it tidy if that's part of the contract with living there. If its not on his property then he shouldn't have to touch it. The city/neighborhood should hire that out.[/QUOTE]
The boulevard is apart of your curtilage. The homeowner is responsible to mow it. If they dont, the city will but will charge you for it. And it wont be cheap.
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kinda like shoveling your sidewalks
The city does it automatically. It is paid for in our taxes and associated property bills.
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Let's put it this way;
Slaves were forced to work, and were fed (not much) and housed (not well) in return.
He's being forced to work, and getting nothing.
On that level, yes it's technically worse than slavery, but GODDAMN how much of an ass do you need to be to make that comparison.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42084762]Let's put it this way;
Slaves were forced to work, and were fed (not much) and housed (not well) in return.
He's being forced to work, and getting nothing.
On that level, yes it's technically worse than slavery, but GODDAMN how much of an ass do you need to be to make that comparison.[/QUOTE]
Weren't slaves also tortured and killed?
If he were homeless and jobless and didn't get fed, then it would be worse.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42084762]Let's put it this way;
Slaves were forced to work, and were fed (not much) and housed (not well) in return.
He's being forced to work, and getting nothing.
On that level, yes it's technically worse than slavery, but GODDAMN how much of an ass do you need to be to make that comparison.[/QUOTE]
if a slave didn't do his work he was whipped, if he doesn't do this he's fined, a slave has to do work he isn't paid for ALL THE TIME, he only has to make the slight effort to mow a lawn every so often
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[QUOTE=wraithcat;42083823]Actually it's entirely possible it is his property. Since that's how sidewalks often work. But it's a property with an obligation clause (keep it open as a public sidewalk and keep it clean)[/QUOTE]
fair enough then, i'm not sure of the canadian laws. over here you don't have to mow them i don't think. or at least we've never HAD to (sometimes do just to make it look nice, and sometimes neighbours do heaps of the street just to make it look nice)
I don't see how its particularly offensive or noteworthy to compare the situation to slavery.
After all slavery occurred in a long time before the US even existed (which I imagine why everyone is up in arms over the reference to slavery and is seeing it as some sort of offensive racially charged comment when slavery is a big word that references a lot of times in history)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;42083474]Looking at Henry Dormer Drive on Street View, these houses are massive. We're talking $200k-$500k or even more.
And yet he can't afford a push mower[/QUOTE]
Is a $500,000 house supposed to be a lot in Canada.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42084762]Let's put it this way;
Slaves were forced to work, and were fed (not much) and housed (not well) in return.
He's being forced to work, and getting nothing.
On that level, yes it's technically worse than slavery, but GODDAMN how much of an ass do you need to be to make that comparison.[/QUOTE]
He isn't getting nothing, he's getting the right to own property in the city.
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[QUOTE=Badballer;42084912]Is a $500,000 house supposed to be a lot in Canada.[/QUOTE]
Winnipeg isn't terribly expensive to live in so yeah
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