• AP via Fox News: Black conservative tea party backers take heat
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Fox headline:[b]Black Tea Party Activists Called 'Traitors'[/b] [quote= Associated Press via Fox News]They've been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement — and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president. "I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government. "Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said. Johnson and other black conservatives say they were drawn to the tea party movement because of what they consider its commonsense fiscal values of controlled spending, less taxes and smaller government. The fact that they're black — or that most tea partyers are white — should have nothing to do with it, they say. "You have to be honest and true to yourself. What am I supposed to do, vote Democratic just to be popular? Just to fit in?" asked Clifton Bazar, a 45-year-old New Jersey freelance photographer and conservative blogger. Opponents have branded the tea party as a group of racists hiding behind economic concerns — and reports that some tea partyers were lobbing racist slurs at black congressmen during last month's heated health care vote give them ammunition. But these black conservatives don't consider racism representative of the movement as a whole — or race a reason to support it. Angela McGlowan, a black congressional candidate from Mississippi, said her tea party involvement is "not about a black or white issue." "It's not even about Republican or Democrat, from my standpoint," she told The Associated Press. "All of us are taxed too much." Still, she's in the minority. As a nascent grassroots movement with no registration or formal structure, there are no racial demographics available for the tea party movement; it's believed to include only a small number of blacks and Hispanics. Some black conservatives credit President Barack Obama's election — and their distaste for his policies — with inspiring them and motivating dozens of black Republicans to plan political runs in November. For black candidates like McGlowan, tea party events are a way to reach out to voters of all races with her conservative message. "I'm so proud to be a part of this movement! I want to tell you that a lot of people underestimate you guys," the former national political commentator for Fox News told the cheering crowd at a tea party rally in Nashville, Tenn., in February. Tea party voters represent a new model for these black conservatives — away from the black, liberal Democratic base located primarily in cities, and toward a black and white conservative base that extends into the suburbs. Black voters have overwhelmingly backed Democratic candidates, support that has only grown in recent years. In 2004, presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry won 88 percent of the black vote; four years later, 95 percent of black voters cast ballots for Obama. Black conservatives don't want to have to apologize for their divergent views. "I've gotten the statement, 'How can you not support the brother?'" said David Webb, an organizer of New York City's Tea Party 365, Inc. movement and a conservative radio personality. Since Obama's election, Webb said some black conservatives have even resorted to hiding their political views. "I know of people who would play the (liberal) role publicly, but have their private opinions," he said. "They don't agree with the policy but they have to work, live and exist in the community ... Why can't we speak openly and honestly if we disagree?" Among the 37 black Republicans running for U.S. House and Senate seats in November is Charles Lollar of Maryland's 5th District. A tea party supporter running against House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., Lollar says he's finding support in unexpected places. The 38-year-old U.S. Marine Corps reservist recently walked into a bar in southern Maryland decorated with a Confederate flag. It gave his wife Rosha pause. "I said, 'You know what, honey? Many, many of our Southern citizens came together under that flag for the purpose of keeping their family and their state together,'" Lollar recalled. "The flag is not what you're to fear. It's the stupidity behind the flag that is a problem. I don't think we'll find that in here. Let's go ahead in." Once inside, they were treated to a pig roast, a motorcycle rally — and presented with $5,000 in contributions for his campaign. McGlowan, one of three GOP candidates in north Mississippi's 1st District primary, seeks a seat held since 2008 by The National Republican Congressional Committee has supported Alan Nunnelee, chairman of the state Senate Appropriations Committee, who is also pursuing tea party voters. McGlowan believes the tea party movement has been unfairly portrayed as monolithically white, male and middle-aged, though she acknowledged blacks and Hispanics are a minority at most events. Racist protest signs at some tea party rallies and recent reports by U.S. Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Barney Frank, D-Mass., that tea partyers shouted racial and anti-gay slurs at them have raised allegations of racism in the tea party movement. Black members of the movement say it is not inherently racist, and some question the reported slurs. "You would think — something that offensive — you would think someone got video of it," Bazar, the conservative blogger, said. "Just because you have one nut case, it doesn't automatically equate that you've got an organization that espouses (racism) as a sane belief," Johnson said. Hilary Shelton, director of the Washington bureau of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, suggested a bit of caution. "I'm sure the reason that (black conservatives) are involved is that from an ideological perspective, they agree," said Shelton. "But when those kinds of things happen, it is very important to be careful of the company that you keep."[/quote] [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/06/black-tea-party-activists-called-traitors/?test=latestnews[/url] GNN News Comment: Wasn't the tea party suppose to be, I don't know, racist? [/sarcasm]
Lemme get this straight. A few black teabaggers = no one in the Tea Party is racist? I'm sure these guys have taken fire from within the Tea Party too.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21215900]Lemme get this straight. A few black teabaggers = no one in the Tea Party is racist? I'm sure these guys have taken fire from within the Tea Party too.[/QUOTE] Because all conservatives are racist.
[QUOTE=meatballfish;21215950]Because all conservatives are racist.[/QUOTE] I guess you forgot the racist signs, racist slurs, and widespread racist sentiment within the Tea Party.
I think there's too many information in this article.
[QUOTE=meatballfish;21215950]Because all conservatives are racist.[/QUOTE] I'm not so your wrong.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21216061]I guess you forgot the racist signs, racist slurs, and widespread racist sentiment within the Tea Party.[/QUOTE] Where's the proof? You may want to dig it up because breitbart is offering a reward. [url]http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/03/26/breitbart-offers-10k-reward-for-proof-that-n-word-was-hurled-at-john-lewis/[/url] [url]http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/03/25/2010-a-race-odyssey-disproving-a-negative-for-cash-prizes-or-how-the-civil-rights-movement-jumped-the-shark/[/url]
I posted pictures of racist Tea Party signs a while back in response to you. And I'd say that Tea Party leaders acknowledging the hurling of racist slurs and condemning it is proof enough that it happened.
So? Give it to breitbart and claim the money then! Or is the proof not all that good.With what I've heard, the search for the proof is still going. The video you gave me in the other topic only SAID that they were racist, but didn't back it up with anything. Unlike that video from the Greece default topic about the riots. Where did you get those pictures anyway?
[QUOTE=Glaber;21216721]Where's the proof? [/QUOTE] [img]http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Misc/obamacare1.jpg[/img] There are certainly racist elements within the tea party. What's this article supposed to prove? That there are racists on both sides? Because that's really not news at all. [editline]04:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Glaber;21216721] You may want to dig it up because breitbart is offering a reward. [URL="http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/03/26/breitbart-offers-10k-reward-for-proof-that-n-word-was-hurled-at-john-lewis/"][/URL][/QUOTE] they're not asking for generalized proof of racism, they're asking for some ridiculously specific audio tape that they know they will never get so they can make some claim about "liberals being the [i]real[/i] racists"
[quote]"Just because you have one nut case, it doesn't automatically equate that you've got an organization that espouses (racism) as a sane belief," Johnson said.[/quote] However, when an organization seems to [i]attract[/i] these types of people, you have to take a hard look at the organization. I don't get what the big deal is, though. Conservatives are called all sorts of racial slurs, why would being black change that?
[QUOTE=Dr Pepper;21216680]I'm not so your wrong.[/QUOTE] What about his wrong?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;21217200]However, when an organization seems to [I]attract[/I] these types of people, you have to take a hard look at the organization.[/QUOTE] but both organizations have racists. Pretty much every organization ever has at least a few racist elements. This isn't reporting, this agenda pushing.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21217683]but both organizations have racists. Pretty much every organization ever has at least a few racist elements. [/QUOTE] Yes, but some organizations seem to attract a large racist element, while some seem to repel.
[QUOTE=Devil Traitor;21216400]I think there's too many information in this article.[/QUOTE] Should be condensed to "The Tea Baggers are stupid."
i like how the left wingers jumped onto the moral high horse (racism & turdmeat) against those opposing obama, and now that blacks are also opposing him they're pulling the race card
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21217041][IMG]http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Misc/obamacare1.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] hahaha, that'll win your support for your cause!
This just in: tea baggers are wing nut fuck-job racist pricks.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;21217793]hahaha, that'll win your support for your cause![/QUOTE] The idea is that Obama's health care is akin to witch doctoring and voodoo healing: flashy and ineffective. The tribal depiction of the president is obviously representative of his uncivilized manner of conduct in office, forcing his way through government like an uncouth savage. I [i]hardly[/i] see the racism in that. [sp]Kidding. That's pretty fucked up.[/sp]
Black conservatives have always taken flak; what else is new?
[QUOTE=Bathacker;21223079]The idea is that Obama's health care is akin to witch doctoring and voodoo healing: flashy and ineffective. The tribal depiction of the president is obviously representative of his uncivilized manner of conduct in office, forcing his way through government like an uncouth savage. I [i]hardly[/i] see the racism in that. [sp]Kidding. That's pretty fucked up.[/sp][/QUOTE] kidding or not, that's seems to be an accurate interpretation of the image.
They're taking heat because they only serve the purpose of making the Tea party look tolerant
[QUOTE=Archy;21217771]i like how the left wingers jumped onto the moral high horse (racism & turdmeat) against those opposing obama, and now that blacks are also opposing him they're pulling the race card[/QUOTE] "they" aren't doing anything. Political sides aren't giant groups of people who all act exactly the same and do the exact same thing. That's why this article is so pernicious, it is trying to characterize an entire side with racism [editline]10:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21223893]They're taking heat because they only serve the purpose of making the Tea party look tolerant[/QUOTE] i don't think that's the case, I think there are some black tea-partiers who genuinely support that movement, but there definitely are examples of pretty obvious exploitation of non-white members of both the tea-party as well as the GOP. Micheal Steele was a nobody and is obviously not qualified for even the limited responsibilities that being the chairman of the gop brings
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21217041]There are certainly racist elements within the tea party.[/QUOTE] There's racist elements in every party.
[QUOTE=Glaber;21223885]kidding or not, that's seems to be an accurate interpretation of the image.[/QUOTE] Only in the loosest, probably-only-makes-sense-like-that-by-accident sort of way. I doubt the person who made that poster had the intelligence to paint out such an intricate metaphor if they didn't have the common sense to avoid the ridiculously racist connotations. Hell, I had to put forth a solid effort to make it [i]not[/i] sound racist.
[QUOTE=Glaber;21215868]GNN News Comment: Wasn't the tea party suppose to be, I don't know, racist? [/sarcasm][/QUOTE] The British National Party has a Sikh member now
[QUOTE=Glaber;21223885]kidding or not, that's seems to be an accurate interpretation of the image.[/QUOTE] that's the non-racist interpretation of the image, nothing more
[QUOTE=Glaber;21223885]kidding or not, that's seems to be an accurate interpretation of the image.[/QUOTE] I find it to be an inaccurate hostile picture. Unless, if you were referring to how it was racist.
[QUOTE=Glaber;21223885]kidding or not, that's seems to be an accurate interpretation of the image.[/QUOTE] Or it could just mean the whole "he's black and from kenya and used to be in a tribe" view that a lot of racists are prone to having
[QUOTE=Glaber;21223885]kidding or not, that's seems to be an accurate interpretation of the image.[/QUOTE] You're ridiculously deluded if you think someone would have made the same poster if it was John Edwards
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