• Philosophical Debate Thread - What is the meaning of everything?
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I thought it was time for a deep thinking debate thread to appear in GD, haven't seen anything of the such in a while. Now I'd like to take a minute of your time for you to ask yourself these questions. What is the meaning of life? (Despite being cliche', it's a serious question) What is the importance of feelings such as happiness and anger? Now I know a lot of you are very technical thinkers, to pass emotions as an evolutionary chemical reaction and I don't disagree with any of you, but try to think about it in a completely different way. Why do feelings such as these exist? Would it be easier for humans to not have feelings? Why do concepts of color, music, art exist? Music is a phenomenon to me, we discovered music some thousands of years ago and have developed it very intensely. We've come up with names for certain notes, A B C D E F G, etc. Notes comply with each other in a way very pleasing to our ear, yet why is that? Why is it that notes C and G sound heavenly together? We didn't invent music, only discovered it. As for color, what is the importance of color? We see color in our lives every day, we know that some colors look good together and some don't, but is there a reason it's like this? Would it be easier if there was no color in the universe? And what is color exactly? Think to a atomic level, where is the color contained? What is the essence of color? And space, something we've only just discovered recently, has so much color in it, with these galaxies and stars. It's amazing to see these things and I can't help but wonder why all this exists. Hopefully you guys can see this in a similar way. Please share your insights, questions and perspectives of the universe. Ask questions without hope of answering, for we may never know the answer. Is there an answer? tl:dr :lsd:
Philosophical debate? More like the same cliche fucking questions asked time and time again by people who want to sound deep.
Is it right to alienate paedophiles? Morally, what they do is horribly incorrect. However, they can be fixed; therapy and other treatments can easily deal with first time offenders. The way they're treated doesn't make sense; take how first time offenders aren't allowed around areas which children frequent - that's pretty much everywhere. Where does that leave them to live? The middle of nowhere? Paedophiles aren't given a chance in today's society; they aren't allowed to be fixed and reintegrated. Psycopathic murderers are given treatment and reintegrated, why shouldn't pedos be treated the same way?
I feel that color affects our emotions solely because we associate certain colors with sed emotions based on past such as warm and bright colors as we associate them with good times such as a warm summer day, thats the only significance color has in my life
To breed? Dunno, come back when I'm more drunk.
There is no meaning to anything, live life and stop thinking.
[QUOTE=Red scout?;27094197]There is no meaning to anything, live life and stop thinking.[/QUOTE] Enjoy being stupid. There is no meaning to anything, but I will keep on thinking.
Taken from one of the numerous .txt files in my "Philosophy" folder. In the book Trinity one of the characters says that a person's life is like a house with 4 rooms. There's a living room where you bring your friends and family and act your best. There's a bedroom and only a few special people go there with you. Then there's a room only you go in, it holds the secrets you keep from everyone else. And the last room is one you don't even go in because it holds the secrets you try to keep from yourself. All the stuff you don't even want to think about.
[QUOTE=johnlmonkey;27094179]I feel that color affects our emotions solely because we associate certain colors with sed emotions based on past such as warm and bright colors as we associate them with good times such as a warm summer day, thats the only significance color has in my life[/QUOTE] Well thinking of color in relation to humans I agree, warm colors generally have a much more positive effect on us than cold colors do, maybe because of our evolutionary past? But what exactly is the importance of it when it has nothing to do with humans? Color is something intertwined in the universe and as far as we know has existed before humans were around. What is the importance of it then? Is there any? God I love asking these kinds of questions. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Red scout?;27094197]There is no meaning to anything, live life and stop thinking.[/QUOTE] Try to look at life in a completely different way, if there's no meaning to anything, then why do we exist? Why does Earth exist?
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[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094227] Try to look at life in a completely different way, if there's no meaning to anything, then why do we exist? Why does Earth exist?[/QUOTE] Because out of sheer luck our planet just happened to be in the habitation zone.
The meaning of life to me is simple. It's whatever you WANT it to be. If you think it's giving up all your worldly possessions and praising Jesus, then so be it. There is no definite meaning, it's all up to the observer. But of course, you'll have your own thought of what it is. Funny, no? Bah, my style is more of philosophy dealing with the afterlife and such.
Fast threads...
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;27094286]Because out of sheer luck our planet just happened to be in the habitation zone.[/QUOTE] And here we are posting on facepunch right now, don't you think it has at least some importance that this kind of thing happened? Somehow, someway this happened, and we've developed and grown to realize these forces of the universe, and question what it all means. And I don't care if thinking about this stuff is unimportant, because it's not. In a sense, everything is unimportant, which in another sense makes everything [i]important[/i]. If that makes sense. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=SIRIUS;27094307]Fast threads...[/QUOTE] Thanks for that philosophical insight!! It's going in the book for sure.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094316]And here we are posting on facepunch right now, don't you think it has at least some importance? Somehow, someway this happened, and we've developed and grown to realize these forces of the universe, and question what it all means. And I don't care if thinking about this stuff is unimportant, because it's not. In a sense, everything is unimportant, which in another sense makes everything [i]important[/i]. If that makes sense. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] Thanks for that philosophical insight!! It's going in the book for sure.[/QUOTE]Everything has an ounce of importance at least, but that doesn't mean every breath you take will matter. We're here because a single thing happened long ago, and ever since then it's been like those office clackers, one event setting of a chain.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094316]And here we are posting on facepunch right now, don't you think it has at least some importance? Somehow, someway this happened, and we've developed and grown to realize these forces of the universe, and question what it all means. And I don't care if thinking about this stuff is unimportant, because it's not. In a sense, everything is unimportant, which in another sense makes everything [i]important[/i]. If that makes sense. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] Thanks for that philosophical insight!! It's going in the book for sure.[/QUOTE] We're here because we want to be, same reason we're on our computers all day until 3 in the morning.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094316]And here we are posting on facepunch right now, don't you think it has at least some importance? Somehow, someway this happened, and we've developed and grown to realize these forces of the universe, and question what it all means. And I don't care if thinking about this stuff is unimportant, because it's not. In a sense, everything is unimportant, which in another sense makes everything [I]important[/I]. If that makes sense. [/QUOTE] Importance? We're one planet in a universe of over 300 sextillion stars. We are COMPLETELY insignificant.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;27094306]The meaning of life to me is simple. It's whatever you WANT it to be. If you think it's giving up all your worldly possessions and praising Jesus, then so be it. There is no definite meaning, it's all up to the observer. But of course, you'll have your own thought of what it is. Funny, no? Bah, my style is more of philosophy dealing with the afterlife and such.[/QUOTE] I've thought of that as well, I've come to think that people's different perceptions, whether they believe in a god or not, that in their mind it exists, so in a way, it exists. Simply put, someone believes in heaven, heaven is real. It's almost as if the observer creates an entirely different reality through his mind, that is completely real. Like the universe bends around a person's mind, kind of like [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect[/url] Now that I think of it, this is kind of a mix between science and philosophy.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094316]And here we are posting on facepunch right now, don't you think it has at least some importance?[/QUOTE] No.
Too live in the name of god because he created us.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094376]I've thought of that as well, I've come to think that people's different perceptions, whether they believe in a god or not, that in their mind it exists, so in a way, it exists. Simply put, someone believes in heaven, heaven is real. It's almost as if the observer creates an entirely different reality through his mind, that is completely real. Like the universe bends around a person's mind, kind of like [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect[/url] Now that I think of it, this is kind of a mix between science and philosophy.[/QUOTE]Aye, I know what you're getting at, but I still feel that there's just a single type of afterlife. And I've come to terms that my thoughts may be right, they may be wrong. But I'll cross that bridge when I have to. And science and philosophy always come hand in hand.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;27094364]Importance? We're one planet in a universe of over 300 sextillion stars. We are COMPLETELY insignificant.[/QUOTE] I like that wallpaper too.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;27094364]Importance? We're one planet in a universe of over 300 sextillion stars. We are COMPLETELY insignificant.[/QUOTE] And there's the fun in it. Significance is only a perception created in your mind. I believe that everything is relative, time, space, mass. But everything is equally important. And besides being insignificant doesn't make you unimportant, maybe to human standards, but I'm thinking past human perceptions here. I realize I'm talking about so many different philosophical subjects here, it would be so much easier to have a sub-forum for this kind of thing.
We are here because Jesus died of are sins
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;27094396]Aye, I know what you're getting at, but I still feel that there's just a single type of afterlife. And I've come to terms that my thoughts may be right, they may be wrong. But I'll cross that bridge when I have to. And science and philosophy always come hand in hand.[/QUOTE] But there's so many different concepts out there, there's reincarnation, enlightenment, heaven, hell, and nothingness/oblivion. Now to be honest I don't know if I'm right in my concept of bending reality to fit the ideas of a single person either, you can only come up with ideas that you can't prove. There's never a way to find out for sure.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094316]And here we are posting on facepunch right now, don't you think it has at least some importance? Somehow, someway this happened, and we've developed and grown to realize these forces of the universe, and question what it all means. And I don't care if thinking about this stuff is unimportant, because it's not. In a sense, everything is unimportant, which in another sense makes everything [i]important[/i]. If that makes sense. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] Thanks for that philosophical insight!! It's going in the book for sure.[/QUOTE] lol, but seriously, this question has been asked allot like this, but the same question asked the same way will procure the same answer. i like to find out the answer on the way... if it is an answer... the post was just for fun.
[QUOTE=Asphyxia;27094451]But there's so many different concepts out there, there's reincarnation, enlightenment, heaven, hell, and nothingness/oblivion. Now to be honest I don't know if I'm right in my concept of bending reality to fit the ideas of a single person either, you can only come up with ideas that you can't prove. There's never a way to find out for sure.[/QUOTE]Oh there is. :suicide: But seriously, it's a sign of how much humanity has developed in order to think of such concepts. It truly is fascinating, but still. Maybe something we haven't even thought of is right.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;27094478]Oh there is. :suicide: But seriously, it's a sign of how much humanity has developed in order to think of such concepts. It truly is fascinating, but still. Maybe something we haven't even thought of is right.[/QUOTE] There's no real way to tell if something is wrong or wrong, really
[QUOTE=sp00ks;27094212]Enjoy being stupid. There is no meaning to anything, but I will keep on thinking.[/QUOTE] No matter how much you think and study, you will never know even a little part of everything, therefore you will die stupid anyway [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] Everything is all the stuff in the universe
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;27094512]No matter how much you think and study, you will never know even a little part of everything, therefore you will die stupid anyway [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] Everything is all the stuff in the universe[/QUOTE] Philosophy shaped the way our civilizations formed, so experimenting with philosophy overall shapes the minds of people. while you may die with only discovering a small part of what's all there, you can pass these thoughts down, and continue to develop them more and more.
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