The old thread got closed and it seemed like there was still some discussion, so here's a quick OP.
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Note: The $25 Raspberry Pi now has 256 MB of RAM, the difference is the extra USB ports and Ethernet
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(From the FAQ at [URL="http://raspberrypi.org"]raspberrypi.org[/URL])
[B]What is the Raspberry Pi?[/B]
The Raspberry Pi is a credit-card sized computer that plugs into your TV and a keyboard. It’s a capable little PC which can be used for many of the things that your desktop PC does, like spreadsheets, word-processing and games. It also plays high-definition video. We want to see it being used by kids all over the world to learn programming.
[B]When can I buy one?[/B]
We are hoping to have the Raspberry Pi available to order in February 2012. The initial production run will be 10 000 uncased development-style boards with further productions runs starting once these have been sold.
[B]Where can I buy one?[/B]
The Raspi will initially only be available to purchase through [URL="http://www.farnell.com/"]Premier Farnell/Element 14[/URL] and [URL="http://rswww.com/"]RS Components[/URL].
Note: The first batch will have a 1 per household limit to avoid people buying a ton of them and reselling them on ebay for a higher cost.
[B]Videos
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[video=youtube;e_mDuJuvZjI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mDuJuvZjI[/video]
[video=youtube;4NR57ELY28s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NR57ELY28s[/video]
[video=youtube;A-vBbqamNBU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-vBbqamNBU[/video]
[B]Common Misconceptions
[/B][quote=Val67]
Common misconceptions:
- You can (technically) make a cluster of these but it will be terribly inefficient. One $350 x86 computer is faster than 10 Mobiel B's
- You will have to solder your headers
- You can't get the PCB and solder yourself the components
- You can run something other than Linux on it but it will be either RiscOS or Haiku
- Win8 won't run on this as I doubt MS will release Win8 ARM to end-users. And it needs more power/RAM
- There is no real time clock. You'll have to sync the clock with internet or add your own
- 1080p is fast because the GPU was designed for this. HTML5 video will be pretty slow
- If you want your favourite software, you'll have to crosscompile it
- The board will be credit-card shaped
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[B]Other Notes:[/B]
This is an ARM CPU, which are currently found in smartphones, tablets and other embedded computers such as thin clients and routers. Since an ARM CPU is much different than x86 CPU (Like you would find in a desktop PC or laptop), you can't really compare the performance to desktops or laptops of a similar clockspeed, such as a 700 MHz Pentium 3. It has been compared that the performance in some tasks is around that of a 486. It also means that software has to be compiled for it, which means that it has to be open source or the person who wrote it needs to make a version available. Most major Linux distributions have a large amount of ARM software already packaged up and ready to download.
However, the GPU is the very interesting part of the Raspberry Pi, as you saw in the Quake 3 video or in the XBMC video where it can decode 1080p x264 video. However - due to the costs of licencing other formats- the GPU's video decoding functionality stops there. For example, if you want to decode a 1080p Xvid movie, it would have to be converted to x264 first to play back flawlessly. I've personally used programs that do this on the fly for my iPod Touch, so it may be possible to have the Pi connected to your TV and have your noisy home server in another room, encoding unsupported formats in real time. EDIT: I asked the forums and apparently PS3 Media server (DNLA/UPnP server) and XBMC on the Pi should be able to do this seamlessly.
The GPIO (General purpose Input/Output) pins will allow you to interface with microcontrollers, buttons, LEDs, relays and other electronic components assuming you can build the circuitry and write the software to control them. I can see some very interesting things being created to use the Raspberry Pi's GPIO pins, already we have seen the [URL="http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/500"]Gertboard[/URL], a breakout board for these pins with what appears to be shift registers and relays.
[B]Screens:
[/B]The Raspberry Pi has digital HDMI (Can connect to DVI with an adapter), analog composite (Older TVs) and a DSI (Used in some cell phones and other small LCDs) connection. Until it is released, we won't know what LCDs the DSI connection supports, though hopefully there will be an inexpensive LCD available on eBay that will work.
If you're interested in using it with a VGA monitor, HDMI to VGA conversion boxes do exist on eBay for about $30. Please note that a simple $5 HDMI to VGA or DVI to VGA cable requires the GPU to output analog VGA signals in the first place and will not work on the Raspberry Pi, which is why a more expensive conversion box is required to convert the digital signals into analog signals recognized by your older monitor.
eBay and Dealextreme carry fairly cheap and compact compact LCD monitors, though the quality of text and other small detail through composite isn't that great.
[B]
Official FAQ Page:
[/B][URL]http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs[/URL]
could i plug in a touch screen which i can use this in class/make it portable.
Wait, what the hell is a DSI display connector
[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]
Or a CSI connector camera
[QUOTE=latin_geek;34504368]Wait, what the hell is a DSI display connector
[editline]1st February 2012[/editline]
Or a CSI connector camera[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.mipi.org/specifications/display-interface#DSI"]DSI[/URL]
[URL="http://www.mipi.org/specifications/camera-interface#CSI2"]CSI[/URL]
[QUOTE=Van-man;34508004][URL="http://www.mipi.org/specifications/display-interface#DSI"]DSI[/URL]
[URL="http://www.mipi.org/specifications/camera-interface#CSI2"]CSI[/URL][/QUOTE]
Any images of the connectors for the CSI camera? I'm fairly certain I have one of those, but all that shows up in gimages is Crime Scene Investigation crap.
[editline]2nd February 2012[/editline]
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That's the CPU(right) and RAM right there.
I really want one of these.
[QUOTE=Somebody_404;34508270]I really want one of these.[/QUOTE]
Get in line.
The fuck's that supposed to mean? I'm simply stating I want one, not right now, cunt.
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[QUOTE=Somebody_404;34508430]The fuck's that supposed to mean? I'm simply stating I want one, not right now, cunt.[/QUOTE]
Oi fuck you cunt, get stuffed bastard
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[QUOTE=Somebody_404;34508430]The fuck's that supposed to mean? I'm simply stating I want one, not right now, cunt.[/QUOTE]
Because last thread consisted mostly of posts like that.
[QUOTE=Van-man;34508458]Because last thread consisted mostly of posts like that.[/QUOTE]
plus dumbasses arguing about sd cards (myself included) and people still bitching about the title and people asking questions that have been asked 100x
we need our own FAQ in the OP
I'm anxious to get my hands on one, but what I'm really looking forward to is the modding community. I really want to see how people will customize these.
I hope they'll find a way to watch Netflix on one of these in some way. My Xbox is just loud as hell and the "Smart TV" app for my TV blows.
Relevant:
[url=http://www.stmlabs.com/2012/01/30/raspbmc-the-xbmc-distribution-for-raspberrypi/]Raspbmc – the XBMC distribution for Raspberry Pi[/url] -- Coming soon!
:D
I'll probably pick one up and attempt to get my x86 kernel to (with modifications) compile and run on it
Anyone know what type of case would fit this pretty well?
[QUOTE=backfoggen;34512898]I hope they'll find a way to watch Netflix on one of these in some way. My Xbox is just loud as hell and the "Smart TV" app for my TV blows.[/QUOTE]
If I recall, Netflix uses silverlight to playback video, which I doubt exists in an ARM-compiled package. However, there are many different set-top boxes that do Netflix, like the WDTV Live+ and quite a few bluray players.
That's the list of misconceptions I made!
Also there's a limit of 1/household to prevent people buying one of them for each room
I heard that only a limited amount of formats will be able to take advantage of hardware decoding due to licensing issues, so full 1080p playback might only work with certain, specific video files...
I really want one of these.
[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;34514797]Anyone know what type of case would fit this pretty well?[/QUOTE]
Dunno, but some people on the [URL="http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum"]forum[/URL] are having some custom made with a 3D printer.
Personally I'd probably just end up using duct-tape and cardboard :v:
[QUOTE=benjgvps;34514923]If I recall, Netflix uses silverlight to playback video, which I doubt exists in an ARM-compiled package. However, there are many different set-top boxes that do Netflix, like the WDTV Live+ and quite a few bluray players.[/QUOTE]
What? But I have netflix on my Android Tablet with Arm.
[QUOTE=Arcana;34516078]What? But I have netflix on my Android Tablet with Arm.[/QUOTE]
There's no Android app launcher for Linux itself (except Android OS [I]hurr[/I])
Well there's [URL="http://www.xtemu.com/forum/topic/4060-pcsx2-brings-netflix-to-linux-users/"]another method[/URL] that involves [URL="http://pcsx2.net/"]PCSX2[/URL] [B]BUT[/B] it requires a quite beefy PC to emulate.
[QUOTE=Van-man;34515634]Dunno, but some people on the [URL="http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum"]forum[/URL] are having some custom made with a 3D printer.
Personally I'd probably just end up using duct-tape and cardboard :v:[/QUOTE]
I was thinking of using a External HD enclosure, cutting out holes for the connectors, and just using connector extenders to connect devices to it.
I'd get one if I had the capabilities of making a neat little case for it.
[QUOTE=Arcana;34516078]What? But I have netflix on my Android Tablet with Arm.[/QUOTE]
I forgot about the Android app... In order for that to work we'd have to have a working port of Android (Possible, especially with the amount of support behind the Pi) and hope that Netflix content is being streamed in a format that the Pi can decode on the GPU.
you don't really need Android itself, just Dalvik and some other shit
[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;34514797]Anyone know what type of case would fit this pretty well?[/QUOTE]
Probably a project box.
limit one per household come on fuck you
i wanted to buy a bunch :(
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34520042]limit one per household come on fuck you
i wanted to buy a bunch :([/QUOTE]
buy more houses
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