• India better at net neutrality than North America: India bans zero-rating schemes
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[img]http://www.socialmediatoday.com/sites/default/files/adhutchinson/files/io1.png[/img] [quote] [b]Facebook's Free Basics service has been banned in India[/b] Facebook's free-but-restricted internet service, Free Basics, has been banned in India after the country's national telecoms regulator ruled that the program and others like it infringe the principles of net neutrality. The ruling was not directly aimed at Free Basics, but the general practice of zero-rated internet services — [b]those that let users access certain apps and websites without eating away at their mobile data.[/b] [/quote] So while in North America, telecoms are favoring their own services and cutting them out of their data cap, India is being smart about it and completely banning the practice. Source: [url]http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/8/10913398/free-basics-india-regulator-ruling[/url]
Good on them.
Good guy India?
what a loaded title. Haven't we already gone over how free internet is better than no internet for those that can't afford it? Especially in a country like India?
Ah yes, India the shining beacon of Internet Freedom. A country that blocks sites based on "morality", censors anti-government whistleblowers and makes file hosting services inaccessible. Along with sporadically blocking sites like github and Vimeo, et al..
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49700163]what a loaded title. Haven't we already gone over how free internet is better than no internet for those that can't afford it? Especially in a country like India?[/QUOTE] No it's not. It gives particular companies extreme levels of control over the Internet and builds an infrastructure based around their monopoly.
[QUOTE=Lemmingston;49700295]No it's not. It gives particular companies extreme levels of control over the Internet and builds an infrastructure based around their monopoly.[/QUOTE] and how exactly does free internet do that when there's other sources of internet? I don't think you understand what a monopoly is. FP has already gone through one iteration of people not knowing what monopoly means.
[QUOTE=Lemmingston;49700295]No it's not. It gives particular companies extreme levels of control over the Internet and builds an infrastructure based around their monopoly.[/QUOTE] People literally shit on the streets and beaches in India, I don't think they would mind this 'free' internet rather than no internet lmao
[QUOTE=X12321;49700364]People literally shit on the streets and beaches in India, I don't think they would mind this 'free' internet rather than no internet lmao[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter that they're poor. It opens the gates for a host of problems with net neutrality down the track, with the owners of this "free" infrastructure dictating what can and can't be accessed online. Yes- no shit they would prefer free internet. But that is a short term and naive approach.
[QUOTE=Lemmingston;49700566]It doesn't matter that they're poor. It opens the gates for a host of problems with net neutrality down the track, with the owners of this "free" infrastructure dictating what can and can't be accessed online. Yes- no shit they would prefer free internet. But that is a short term and naive approach.[/QUOTE] So, the rule of law is strong in India for services, as it is in the US. You can legislate and allow shitty services in areas that need it, and eventually require that they provide non-shitty free-zone services. They've basically just fucked over the poor or rural areas of India until they provide meaningful subsidies, and they'll still fuck them over with unsuable internet.
India also has people shutting g in its streets and beaches Above us in one way, way fucking below us on the hygine and USAGE of the loo
I think I'd rather be in a country that allows encryption on the cellular towers. Pretty sure some phones will flat out refuse to work in India because of that (and with good reason).
ITT: India did something good, quickly we must find multiple reasons to shit on them. :v:
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;49702486]ITT: India did something good, quickly we must find multiple reasons to shit on them. :v:[/QUOTE] Its not so much as trying to rain on India's good deed for the day, as its that said good deed is just a blip. A dot out of many various violations of net neutrality in such country. Sufficed to say India shouldn't be your prime example of a net neutral haven.
[QUOTE=coolgame8013;49702567]Its not so much as trying to rain on India's good deed for the day, as its that said good deed is just a blip. A dot out of many various violations of net neutrality in such country. Sufficed to say India shouldn't be your prime example of a net neutral haven.[/QUOTE] actually that is a good point... it is probably because Free Basic was out of control of their Government.
[QUOTE=Lemmingston;49700566]It doesn't matter that they're poor. It opens the gates for a host of problems with net neutrality down the track, with the owners of this "free" infrastructure dictating what can and can't be accessed online. Yes- no shit they would prefer free internet. But that is a short term and naive approach.[/QUOTE] it has nothing to do with net neutrality, providing services like this is expensive and its not a big surprise the companies that can help subsidize the cost are allowed to get on board with it.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49703658]it has nothing to do with net neutrality, providing services like this is expensive and its not a big surprise the companies that can help subsidize the cost are allowed to get on board with it.[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is, net neutrality has nothing to do with it as long as companies offer a good service? Yeah okay, works good in the short term while they develop infrastructure, but in the long run they will all be fucked over. I don't think you understand the term net neutrality at all. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] These companies are out to make PROFIT. It's not a charity lmao.
I still don't get why this is such a controversial issue for some. Surely it's better with some internet than none? And the other companies going against zero-rate offers just seems like a cry about their outdated business methodes that they're still trying to milk.
[QUOTE=Lemmingston;49704068]So what you're saying is, net neutrality has nothing to do with it as long as companies offer a good service? Yeah okay, works good in the short term while they develop infrastructure, but in the long run they will all be fucked over. I don't think you understand the term net neutrality at all. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] These companies are out to make PROFIT. It's not a charity lmao.[/QUOTE] You don't say its a profit? Whaaat? Its almost as if they're a company! Whoa! So what if they're doing it for profit? They're also doing it as a charity, offering free internet. Who are you to dictate and pull out of your ass that they'll turn it to shit? There's absolutely zero evidence showing that Facebook will just destroy the service and make it the exclusive source of internet.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;49702486]ITT: India did something good, quickly we must find multiple reasons to shit on them. :v:[/QUOTE] I think most people pointing out India's flaws just want to remind people that India is still an awful country in many ways and this piece of news shouldn't change that perception.
regardless of ones opinion on this, yes india is still an awful country.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;49707939]I think most people pointing out India's flaws just want to remind people that India is still an awful country in many ways and this piece of news shouldn't change that perception.[/QUOTE] and that's needed because...? it's not like it's a secret that india has horrible problems, my point stands.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;49708768]and that's needed because...? it's not like it's a secret that india has horrible problems, my point stands.[/QUOTE] Seems like the "better than North America" phrase is wringing out lots of butthurt people of the land of the free. India has a lot of terrible problems, but there's no need to shit on them for a piece of good news.
thread full of incredibly sensitive americans [editline]10th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Billy-Bobfred;49702410]India also has people shutting g in its streets and beaches Above us in one way, way fucking below us on the hygine and USAGE of the loo[/QUOTE] fuck india preserved net neutrality better than us, better bring up some really unrelated country-bashing shit
Cloaky buddy, calm down I understand you like to get angry at posts a day or two old but still Oh and also "sensitive Americans" tbh India isn't all that great (rape is regular, horrendous trash problems, and poorness in general) and I don't see why you are getting salty over a few posts
From what I have gleaned from the article, people are upset at the fact that Facebook's Free Basics give preference to certain programs or partners leaving "the Little Guys" behind hindering "innovation" (Implying the "Little guys" actually do most of the innovation). Personally, this seems logical because as a business owner I want to promote my self and then my partners. To me, it seems to have nothing to do with Net neutrality in the fact you don't have to use the program. They have mobile plans where you have unrestricted internet rather than free but restricted. This thread just seems like :clickbait:, but that is just my uneducated opinion.
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