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Fun times ahead Facepunch.
Nah.
Yeah, this has been projected for quite a while. What a future to look towards to.
[QUOTE=GlebGuy;44258904]Nah.[/QUOTE]
"Nah" said the Windows XP user facing his impending doom anyway when XP support ends.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;44258914]"Nah" said the Windows XP user facing his impending doom anyway when XP support ends.[/QUOTE]
I would have switched to 7 but it's a long story. Besides, losing the 'support' won't change anything.
[QUOTE=GlebGuy;44258904]Nah.[/QUOTE]
Yeah go and outright deny it, it's not like there are actual hard and quite obvious maths as well as historical analysis supporting it. Just go on with your life and make a big dumb surprised face once you won't be able to afford a loaf of bread, presuming there will be any available in fifty mile radius.
This isn't some panicky tabloid opinion articles. This is stuff institutions like NASA works on and all can agree on "this shit is going to be bad".
This sure isn't a good day for news.
[quote]The report stressed, however, that the worst-case scenario of collapse is not inevitable, and called on action now from the so-called real world “Elites” to restore economic balance.[/quote]
I wish we had a way to get that through their thick skulls. Or maybe to start further down and get the people to stop being so apathetic.
It makes me think of our PM David Cameron wanting to scrap eco-friendly regulations so that energy companies can have a bit more money. Pretty disgusting.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44258943]Yeah go and outright deny it, it's not like there are actual hard and quite obvious maths as well as historical analysis supporting it. Just go on with your life and make a big dumb surprised face once you won't be able to afford a loaf of bread, presuming there will be any available in fifty mile radius.
This isn't some panicky tabloid opinion articles. This is stuff institutions like NASA works on and all can agree on "this shit is going to be bad".[/QUOTE]
Why would NASA care about this stuff though? Isn't their job to get stuff to space and research?
[QUOTE=Svinnik;44258994]Why would NASA care about this stuff though? Isn't their job to get stuff to space and research?[/QUOTE]
Escape!
I'm joking of course.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;44258994]Why would NASA care about this stuff though? Isn't their job to get stuff to space and research?[/QUOTE]
They hold a pretty huge computing power and if they aren't using it for the moment they can as well lend it to some researcher who asks nice enough, and it's not just raw power but also other resources.
the good news is that it's preventable, the bad news is that the presence of that same good news may stop it from being prevented
It's kinda hard to do space exploration when the society collapses and reverts 100 years back socially and economically so it's kinda in NASAs indirect but important interest to try to keep it from happening.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;44258994]Why would NASA care about this stuff though? Isn't their job to get stuff to space and research?[/QUOTE]
NASA funds a lot of things.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44258943]Yeah go and outright deny it, it's not like there are actual hard and quite obvious maths as well as historical analysis supporting it. Just go on with your life and make a big dumb surprised face once you won't be able to afford a loaf of bread, presuming there will be any available in fifty mile radius.
This isn't some panicky tabloid opinion articles. This is stuff institutions like NASA works on and all can agree on "this shit is going to be bad".[/QUOTE]
I agree that things are not going to be easy, maybe even down-right terrifying, but I try to hold on with optimism about our future.
There will be casualties, hardships, changes, but we as a species will go on despite the problems (we've evolved to be an enduring race). For the past decade our technology has also advanced quite a lot and while I'm not saying that 'technology will tackle everything', some things might seem less troubling than they really will be.
Besides, while the efforts might not be much, we are already tackling some problems, like I've read here on FP that the CO2 omissions have been reduced far enough for our atmosphere to recover. And I try not to worry about these kind of things, but I am keeping in mind of such troubles in the back of my head as a reminder of what might come and I do whatever I can to minimize any pollution I could make. Besides, I have no authority, power, research, money or skills that could change things.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;44258994]Why would NASA care about this stuff though? Isn't their job to get stuff to space and research?[/QUOTE]
Yeah but they do other research and shit too you know.
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[QUOTE=GlebGuy;44259038]I agree that things are not going to be easy, maybe even down-right terrifying, but I try to hold on with optimism about our future.
There will be casualties, hardships, changes, but we as a species will go on despite the problems (we've evolved to be an enduring race). For the past decade our technology has also advanced quite a lot and while I'm not saying that 'technology will tackle everything', some things might seem less troubling than they really will be.
Besides, while the efforts might not be much, we are already tackling some problems, like I've read here on FP that [b]the CO2 omissions have been reduced far enough for our atmosphere to recover.[/b] And I try not to worry about these kind of things, but I am keeping in mind of such troubles in the back of my head as a reminder of what might come and I do whatever I can to minimize any pollution I could make. Besides, I have no authority, power, research, money or skills that could change things.[/QUOTE]
Yeah sorry but I don't even slightly see that shit happening any time soon.
Bring out the gasmasks, boys.
[QUOTE=KamenMoore;44259082]Bring out the gasmasks, boys.[/QUOTE]
i always wear mine when posting
I suppose its time to stock up on canned food and guns then.
It's a paper from 2012 where they use a simplified model of human/nature interactions to make scenarios and study the possible outcomes. They make some points about how equality in a society leads to better outcomes. I haven't really read it. But the abstract gives you the gist of it. In conclusion, the paper is a bout a new and small model about the interaction between people.
How media managed to get it from "A Minimal Model for Human and Nature Interaction" to "Nasa-funded study warns of ‘collapse of civilisation’ in coming decades", I have no idea about.
Paper: [url]http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~ekalnay/pubs/handy-paper-for-submission-2.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=KamenMoore;44259082]Bring out the gasmasks, boys.[/QUOTE]
I'm always wearing mine because of the chemtrails.
[quote]Using his Handy model to assess a scenario closely resembling the current state of the world, Motesharri found that civilisation “appears to be on a sustainable path for quite a long time, but even using an optimal depletion rate and starting with a very small number of Elites, the Elites eventually consume too much, resulting in a famine among the Masses that eventually causes the collapse of society”[/quote]
But the Elites worked hard for their money and resources, we obviously have no right to take it away from them...
Ironically when you compare the average facepunchers wealth to that of the most poor I'm pretty sure a lot of us could be considered part of the "elite"
Social revolt sparks when food is scarce and/or it's price is inflated a real lot. Famine is revolt's number one reason. Imo the best thing we can do right now is invest heavily in GMO crops and renewable energies. The chance of a sustainable growth of humanity is there, I'm 100% sure.
My dream is that somebody with a real shitton of cash and land, Google, the NATO or Criminal organizations (they do pull off humanitary shit from time to time), whomever you like best, does so.
Either that or it's crowdfunded.
Well yeah of course. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and we use a fuel that's fast running out and make no effort to switch off it. Anyone can predict that when the wells run dry and the poor can't afford to sustain themselves on 3 jobs, shit is going to hit the fan, and hard.
Us humans sure are obsessed with the end of everything.
I am glad you are here with me. Here at the end of all things, Facepunch.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;44259106]How media managed to get it from "A Minimal Model for Human and Nature Interaction" to "Nasa-funded study warns of ‘collapse of civilisation’ in coming decades", I have no idea about.[/QUOTE]
Because when it comes to making money, no link is too thin to make.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44259211]Us humans sure are obsessed with the end of everything.[/QUOTE]
Good thing to answer when your passenger is starting to freak out because you are about to drive the car off the end of an unfinished bridge.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44259211]Us humans sure are obsessed with the end of everything.[/QUOTE]
The end of available oil is going to hit us harder than anything else in history if we don't make any effort to avoid it. No food, no power, no internet, no transportation. All of society will come to a screeching halt, there will be food riots, civil unrest on an unprecedented scale, maybe even resource wars if we're stupid enough.
That's what "green" parties and scientists are trying to prevent, but we're too concerned with money to listen.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44259033]It's kinda hard to do space exploration when the society collapses and reverts 100 years back socially and economically so it's kinda in NASAs indirect but important interest to try to keep it from happening.[/QUOTE]
If this happens in the 2050s and we revert backwards 100 years then maybe we can return to the space race!
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