From all of the advice my friends gave me, I understood that building a computer is much cheaper and more effective. The problem is that I have no experience with these things. I have no idea how to determine if a graphics card is better than the next, I don't know how to build it, etc. So I was wondering if there was a good PC someone could recommend to me that can run games like TF2 perfectly, BF3 at normal or high setting, Starcraft 2, etc.
My budget is about 500-600$.
I'd also appreciate if someone could tell me how to determine the quality of a graphics card.
Thanks in advance ~
Do you need peripherals?
Do you have a copy of windows?
Also what country are you in.
build it
I was kind of hoping for serious answers for a cheap gaming PC but if this is what I get then, all right.
They are serious, maybe besides demonguard. Yeah, well if you are 100% sure that you don't want to build it, try iBUYPOWER.
[editline]20th October 2011[/editline]
No, you can't run BF3 on ultra with a 500-600$ rig. Medium, High, maybe. Depends on what kind of GPU you want.
[editline]20th October 2011[/editline]
You can always try this if you want...
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227314[/url]
I would Highly recommend spending at least $800
I made a quick build for a $800 budget, you could easily mix things around to be a little cheaper
[url]http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17411732[/url]
600$ can be worked with though, I built my computer over a course of a year shopping NewEgg deals. I saved over 100$
We're still waiting for you to answer the questions.
For peripherals, I already know what screen to buy so I only need the PC.
I can borrow a Windows 7 CD from my friend.
I live in Canada.
What about the keyboard and mouse?
$700 seems like the sweet spot to me (without OS or peripherials). If you go any lower, your performance/price ratio is gonna go down drastically.
I mean, for like $100 less, you can go from a 6870 and a Phenom II X4 to something only half as good.
Also, next time you want help, try staying online a bit longer? Don't just post and run.
[editline]21st October 2011[/editline]
Managed to build one for $603 (US and CA currency is virtually the same) including shipping on iBUYPOWER. They ship to Canada too.
Would anyone here suggest I put in a AMD Phenom II X4 925 CPU (4x 2.80GHz/2MB L2 Cache) in for an extra $35?
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Gamer Fire 500
1 x Case ( NZXT Source 210 Gaming Case - Black )
0 x Case Lighting ( None )
0 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
0 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
1 x Processor ( AMD Athlon™ II X2 250 CPU (2x 3.00GHz/2MB L2 Cache) )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
1 x Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 6770 - 1GB - Single Card )
1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )
1 x Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 -- AMD 970 )
1 x Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( [Free] Internal USB 3.0 PCI-E 2.0 x1 Expansion Card )
1 x Power Supply ( 550 Watt -- Standard )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
0 x Data Hard Drive ( None )
1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
0 x 2nd Optical Drive ( None )
0 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( None )
0 x Meter Display ( None )
0 x USB Expansion ( None )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
1 x Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
0 x Monitor ( None )
0 x 2nd Monitor ( None )
0 x Speaker System ( None )
0 x Headset ( None )
0 x Video Camera ( None )
0 x Case Engraving Service ( None )
1 x Warranty ( 3 Year Standard Warranty Service )
1 x Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )
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That's quite a crap machine for the price
[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;32899304']That's quite a crap machine for the price[/QUOTE]
Remember, he wants a pre-built or a custom.
Have you found anything better for the same price? I'm not being mean, I'm just asking.
I could've done a 1GB 6870 and a Phenom II X4 925 for an extra $100, but his budget is too low.
Also, I could easily give it a 1TB instead of a 500GB hard drive for an extra $10.
I can't find any pre-builts on NewEgg.ca or TigerDirect.ca that have a better video card at the same price.
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006737%204021&IsNodeId=1&name=%24500%20-%20%24750[/url]
[url]http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=6&sel=Price%3BPrice6[/url]
This is a pretty sweet deal too. It's got a better processor and more RAM, although at 1333 instead of 1600.
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285[/url]
However, the card is a bit weaker, as it's a 1GB 6670 instead of a 1GB 6770.
[url]http://www.hwcompare.com/10858/radeon-hd-6670-oem-1gb-vs-radeon-hd-6770-1gb/[/url]
Like 1333MHZ RAM and 1600MHZ RAM will make much difference when the memory controller can't really use all that bandwidth.
Managed to make a better computer for the same price. $611 including shipping. This one has a Phenom II X4 instead of the Athlon II X2, which should've been a $35 upgrade, but because I chose a different model computer, I managed to get the Phenom for way cheaper. If you add a 700W PSU and a 6870, you could have a really good rig for only $670.
[quote]
Gamer Mage D335
1 x Case ( NZXT Source 210 Gaming Case - Black )
0 x Case Lighting ( None )
0 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
0 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
1 x Processor ( AMD Phenom™ II X4 925 CPU (4x 2.80GHz/2MB L2 Cache) )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
1 x Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 6770 - 1GB - Single Card )
1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )
1 x Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 -- AMD 970 )
1 x Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
1 x Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Standard )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
0 x Data Hard Drive ( None )
1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
0 x 2nd Optical Drive ( None )
0 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( None )
0 x Meter Display ( None )
0 x USB Expansion ( None )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
1 x Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
0 x Monitor ( None )
0 x 2nd Monitor ( None )
0 x Speaker System ( None )
0 x Headset ( None )
0 x Video Camera ( None )
0 x Case Engraving Service ( None )
1 x Warranty ( 3 Year Standard Warranty Service )
1 x Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )
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[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;32899912']Like 1333MHZ RAM and 1600MHZ RAM will make much difference when the memory controller can't really use all that bandwidth.[/QUOTE]
Also that 1600 MHz RAM was the same price as the 1333 MHz, so I just went ahead and got it. Bigger is always better, especially when it's also free.
Damn, broke my automerge. Oh well at the thread might get a little more attention now.
[QUOTE=K3inMitl3id;32904140]Also that 1600 MHz RAM was the same price as the 1333 MHz, so I just went ahead and got it. Bigger is always better, especially when it's also free.
Damn, broke my automerge. Oh well at the thread might get a little more attention now.[/QUOTE]
In that case, go for it.
But i'd still build build one though
Or if you are still too scared then get it built in an IT shop.
[editline]22nd October 2011[/editline]
But really though, it's like a 8 piece puzzle.
I've seen some great deals on craigslist and Kijiji on custom built PCs that are a little older. Usually the seller wants to build a new computer or something, but the old PC works just fine.
Damn, I still can't believe Chammy hasn't gotten on yet.
He really needs to get his ass on here so he can get his PC before the deal expires.
Sorry, I was busy for a few days. Thanks for all the help guys. I'm going to first gather up my money and come back to this thread for the PC builds in about a month or two so that I can make my final decisions.
Again, sorry for the wait and thanks a lot!
By then new stuff will probably be out.
You just wasted their time.
[QUOTE=Chammy;32914347]Sorry, I was busy for a few days. Thanks for all the help guys. I'm going to first gather up my money and come back to this thread for the PC builds in about a month or two so that I can make my final decisions.
Again, sorry for the wait and thanks a lot![/QUOTE]
Dude just get it now.
These parts might be obsolete in a month, plus I worked very hard on that build.
Also would you be willing to go up to $650-700 for your PC? You can get a better video card.
Well it's just that I have to actually wait for my money... I should've probably stated that in the first post. I actually have the money now but it's just that I wanted to use it for other things... But if those parts really WILL be obsolete then I guess I can just go ahead and do that now.
Talking about obsolete, I'm going to steal this thread for a second. Should I wait till cyber monday/when new parts come out to get parts like the i2500k, 560 Ti, ect? I really want to spend only about $500 without the OS and the case.
[editline]23rd October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chammy;32914586]Well it's just that I have to actually wait for my money... I should've probably stated that in the first post. I actually have the money now but it's just that I wanted to use it for other things... But if those parts really WILL be obsolete then I guess I can just go ahead and do that now.[/QUOTE]
Then you should have made this thread in a month.
Yes, by the way, what's Cyber Monday. :v:
I like to plan ahead.
[QUOTE=Chammy;32914586]Well it's just that I have to actually wait for my money... I should've probably stated that in the first post. I actually have the money now but it's just that I wanted to use it for other things... But if those parts really WILL be obsolete then I guess I can just go ahead and do that now.[/QUOTE]
Well if you want it now, I'm gonna have to find a way to get you to be able to select the parts for your build which I've already decided. It's a shame it isn't easier to do. Lemme make a checklist so you'll know what to select.
[QUOTE=sa2fan;32914608]Yes, by the way, what's Cyber Monday. :v:[/QUOTE]
It's developed into the online version of Black Friday, originally came from a website who was having a sale on the Monday after Black Friday. It happens in the U.S, I'm not sure about Canada.
Hopefully, Canada gets it too.
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