Danish article - Google translated and quickly cleaned and fixed.
[quote=Politiken]
[B]New law adopted - homosexuals can now marry[/B]
All people who love each other and want to marry, may now marry in Denmark, whether they are identical or different sexes. The parliament has adopted this by a large majority. 85, MPs voted for the proposal, 24 against and 2 voted neither for or against. Until now, homosexuals could not marry, but had the opportunity to enter into a registered partnership. But with the new law, homosexuals can now like heterosexuals marry and choose either religious or civil marriage. Church and Equal Opportunities Manu Sareen (R) has in his appointment as minister spent much of his working time to debate and defend the proposal, and he calls the day today for 'historic'. "This is in line with the time, we had female priests. I am super happy. It is something that all three coalition parties have wanted for many years" he said.
[B]The government met with massive resistance[/B]
Especially people in religious circles caused great commotion as the SR-SF government wrote in the government program that it intends to allow gay marriages. Meanwhile, several polls have established that a majority of Danes want to make gay marriage possible. Internally, the Government's proposal has devided Venstre and the Conservatives. The parties decided to vote independently of parties, so the members voted for personal conviction and not by party line. But despite opposition, the proposal was now, eight months after the election of the new government, adopted after a final debate in parliament, which lasted over three hours. Only the Danish People's Party voted undevided against the proposal. During the debate, church spokesman Christian Langballe said that "marriage is as old as man himself 'and that something as fundamentally not stand to change. It is Danish People's Party opinion that Marriage is reserved for man and woman. It is expected that the first gay couples will be able to receive the paper for each other at church weddings from Friday 15th June. It remains up to each priest, whether he will marry homosexuals.[/quote]
Link to original article (it's in danish): [url]http://politiken.dk/politik/ECE1648296/loven-er-vedtaget---homoseksuelle-kan-gifte-sig/[/url]
I'm actually a bit devided on this. I'm very happy that gay couples can now be married, but it's also not something that the church has decided themselves, and we are after all living in a secularized state. Not that I'm complaining, and it seems that's what the population wanted anyway. Hope that more countries will follow suit.
Picture of who voted for, against and neither.
[img]http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00649/Folketinget_stemmer_649146y.jpg[/img]
Good to hear.
I thought all Scandinavian countries had already done this.
One more victory in the war of equality
Reading some folks reaction on facebook makes me a sad Dane.
Let the fuckers be happy, you nazi cunts
[quote]Christian Langballe said that "marriage is as old as man himself '[/quote]
Christian Langballe is an uneducated bigot. No wonder he's a member of DF(Danish People's Party), the party for racist, homophobes and stupid people.
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[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36233605]Danish article - Google translated and quickly cleaned and fixed.
Link to original article (it's in danish): [url]http://politiken.dk/politik/ECE1648296/loven-er-vedtaget---homoseksuelle-kan-gifte-sig/[/url]
I'm actually a bit devided on this. I'm very happy that gay couples can now be married, but it's also not something that the church has decided themselves, [B]and we are after all living in a secularized state.[/B] Not that I'm complaining, and it seems that's what the population wanted anyway. Hope that more countries will follow suit.[/QUOTE]
Denmark is not a secular nation.
GJ Denmark
[QUOTE=sp00ks;36233836]Denmark is not a secular nation.[/QUOTE]
Not officially anyway, but it's not like religion has any influence except in matters of the church.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;36233677]I thought all Scandinavian countries had already done this.[/QUOTE]
Gay people have up until now been able to enter "registered partnership" or whatever, which was, from
a technical point of view, the same (as in, they get the same benefits as married couples would, and
are considered married from a legal view point). But they have not been able to marry in the traditional
sense, in a church that is, officially until today (well, there were some priests who married gay couples
anyway, but that wasn't recognized or something).
Any statistics about how each party voted?
This is a great day to Swedish who live in Denmark.
Congratulations.
This is great, it doesn't affect me personally but I'm glad the country I live in now is progressing. Everyone adult should have the right to get married regardless of sexual orientation.
good on them! it's always nice to see countries legalizing gay marriage. a small step in the right direction for all of us.
Christian longballs
[QUOTE=znk666;36233967]Any statistics about how each party voted?[/QUOTE]
Danish People's Party voted against. All other parties voted for.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;36233677]I thought all Scandinavian countries had already done this.[/QUOTE]
Well now all of Scandinavia has, Denmark's just late to the party. But if you look at Frenno-Scandinavia then Finland still hasn't legalized it either.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;36234002]This is great, it doesn't affect me personally but I'm glad the country I live in now is progressing. Everyone adult should have the right to get married regardless of sexual orientation.[/QUOTE]
Yep everyone should have the right to a meaningless formality. And the legal benefits that follow, if there's any in the first place.
All homophobes, please watch as the numbers of straight people getting married are not affected in the slightest, and as the institution of marriage survives without harm.
[QUOTE=Chrille;36233913]Not officially anyway, but it's not like religion has any influence except in matters of the church.[/QUOTE]
No, but the government has a say in what the church does because it's a part of the state.
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[QUOTE=Lazore;36234029]Christian longballs[/QUOTE]
It's actually something like Christian Longbuttock.
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[QUOTE=Ond kaja;36234066]Danish People's Party voted against. All other parties voted for.[/QUOTE]
Some members of Venstre and Konservative voted against, as those parties had no stance on the issue.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;36234277]No, but the government has a say in what the church does because it's a part of the state.
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It's actually something like Christian Longbuttock.
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Some members of Venstre and Konservative voted against, as those parties had no stance on the issue.[/QUOTE]
You're right. We have a state church, but as far as I'm concerned while it receives money through taxes, only people who are a member of the church has to pay that tax. So I think it kinda should've been decided internally in the church. I'm not christian myself, but I personally don't think the government should judge on theological questions. A vote called between the members of the state church would probably give the same result, but I don't really find this democratic.
This isn't a thing that should be needed to be voted for.
Feels weird to see them being so late to vote it through, it's good that they did it. I thought it was okay in all of scandinavia since far back in time.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36234352]You're right. We have a state church, but as far as I'm concerned while it receives money through taxes, only people who are a member of the church has to pay that tax. So I think it kinda should've been decided internally in the church. I'm not christian myself, but I personally don't think the government should judge on theological questions. A vote called between the members of the state church would probably give the same result, but I don't really find this democratic.[/QUOTE]
The Bishops etc. are largely against gay marriage.
Everyone, even those not a member of the church, pays some taxes to the church through normal taxes.
It is illegal to discriminate against people based on their sexuality, yet the church has been allowed to do it. That is being fixed now.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;36234519]The Bishops etc. are largely against gay marriage.
Everyone, even those not a member of the church, pays some taxes to the church through normal taxes.
It is illegal to discriminate against people based on their sexuality, yet the church has been allowed to do it. That is being fixed now.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying the bishops should decide this, but maybe the members of the church should. And as far as I remember the bishops have been fairly positive on this matter?
But why should the church, as the only one in the entire country, be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;36235059]But why should the church, as the only one in the entire country, be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals?[/QUOTE]
Where did I mention something that even slightly resembles that stand point?
[QUOTE=mac338;36234069]Well now all of Scandinavia has, Denmark's just late to the party. But if you look at Frenno-Scandinavia then Finland still hasn't legalized it either.[/QUOTE]
And neither will we either, for a long time. Our whole political system is facilitated towards maintaining everything as status quo.
nobody of relevance cares about anything at all here
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;36235129]Where did I mention something that even slightly resembles that stand point?[/QUOTE]
By not letting them get married they are discriminating against them.
[QUOTE=critein_protein;36233718]One more victory in the war of equality[/QUOTE]
just ponies next <3
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;36234095]Yep everyone should have the right to a meaningless formality. And the legal benefits that follow, if there's any in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Marriage isn't even a big thing for me but I wouldn't call it meaningless, it clearly means a lot to many people.
What? I thought this had already been done a long time ago, and I [I]live[/I] in Denmark :v:
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