[quote]The 400,000 residents of Tallinn, the capital of Estonia and the largest city in the northern European country, can now use the city's public transportation system at no cost.
As of January 1, anyone with a registered Tallinn address can purchase a personalized fare card called a "ühiskaart" that will allow them free use of the city's networks of buses, trams, and trolleys, Estonian Public Broadcasting reported.
The new policy, which could come at a loss of €12 million per year, is "motivated by environmental and social concerns."[/quote]
Source: [URL]http://www.businessinsider.com/tallinn-estonia-makes-public-transit-free-2013-1#ixzz2HGod1z6L[/URL]
Also Video: [URL]http://in.reuters.com/video/2013/01/02/europes-first-free-public-transport-city?videoId=240236916[/URL]
[img]http://tallinn24.info/tallinn_4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.tallinn.ee/gal_pildid/53397.jpg[/img]
Well isn't that nice.
Early form of communism? Still great idea really, reduces traffic, creates jobs as more people use public transport, reduces pollution too and overall fuel usage due to less vehicles on the road.
here the monthly pass price keeps going upper and the stupid busses always later
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39127325]Early form of communism? Still great idea really, reduces traffic, creates jobs as more people use public transport, reduces pollution too and overall fuel usage due to less vehicles on the road.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
I dunno why, but people seem to think that I'm an expert at telling with these sorts of things. Weird, right?
This is nice for people who can't afford a vehicle, but what happens if no one acquires their own vehicle anymore? you'll be dependent on the thing running the buses which is never a good thing.
[del]I wonder what a "Tallinn" is.[/del]
woops
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39127325]Early form of communism? Still great idea really, reduces traffic, creates jobs as more people use public transport, reduces pollution too and overall fuel usage due to less vehicles on the road.[/QUOTE]
"Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production"
This has nothing to do with means of production. Co-operative food stores are more communist than this.
Public Transportation is free in my town. The local university has every student pay $1 extra in tuition, and the buses are free for everybody, no questions asked.
oh a e-card? how nice. here in lithuania we got this system for like 3 years
this is cool stuff. And if the city has a good network, a lot of people wont be riding a car any time soon either
This is a pretty neat idea
[QUOTE=_Chewgum;39127856]This is nice for people who can't afford a vehicle, but what happens if no one acquires their own vehicle anymore? you'll be dependent on the thing running the buses which is never a good thing.[/QUOTE]
there will always be people with their own cars. either because its easier to drive to work or because they simply dont like to take buses. Like the car pool example: It would be benefitial, itd save a lot of gas, but you still see a lot of cars that only have 1 person in them
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;39128077]oh a e-card? how nice. here in lithuania we got this system for like 3 years[/QUOTE]
Before this, people we're able to use their ID-Cards to have a ride on the bus.
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39127325]Early form of communism? Still great idea really, reduces traffic, creates jobs as more people use public transport, reduces pollution too and overall fuel usage due to less vehicles on the road.[/QUOTE]
You do know a large amount of democratic/capitalist cities offer free transport through means like buses right?
[QUOTE=_Chewgum;39127856]This is nice for people who can't afford a vehicle, but what happens if no one acquires their own vehicle anymore? you'll be dependent on the thing running the buses which is never a good thing.[/QUOTE]
Everybody who doesn't live in Tallinn does have a car though.
Plenty of cars over here. My family has 4 in my house (grandpa, dads, moms, sisters, cars change time to time tho. dads one is inu the repairs so he is using sisters one) and a few stored in other places.
Also the free system is only in Tallinn.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;39128216]You do know a large amount of democratic/capitalist cities offer free transport through means like buses right?[/QUOTE]
Are you implying that democracy is actually possible under capitalism?
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39127325]Early form of communism? Still great idea really, reduces traffic, creates jobs as more people use public transport, reduces pollution too and overall fuel usage due to less vehicles on the road.[/QUOTE]
Do you like, just roam around SH and post your stupid uneducated shit all the time?
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Ontopic, I'm guessing this would work, because of the city's small population, hence the small losses.
Meanwhile, I pay 80€/month to do the 10km from home to school everyday.
This only works because Tallinn is fucking tiny. I do like the card system, makes me look all sophisticated when I get on the trolley and shit, swipe my card and all that.
Bought my card a few days ago. Like 2 euros IIRC for unlimited public transport sounds like a good deal to me.
[QUOTE=BloodRayne;39127325]Early form of communism? Still great idea really, reduces traffic, creates jobs as more people use public transport, reduces pollution too and overall fuel usage due to less vehicles on the road.[/QUOTE]
Do you have a brain aneurysm every time you read something that isn't Far Right in SH that makes you post the most retarded things?
[QUOTE=EcksDee;39129306]This only works because Tallinn is fucking tiny. I do like the card system, makes me look all sophisticated when I get on the trolley and shit, swipe my card and all that.
Bought my card a few days ago. Like 2 euros IIRC for unlimited public transport sounds like a good deal to me.[/QUOTE]
Are they something like this?
[t]http://velqn.com/wp-content/plugins/image-shadow/cache/66bed77224fb7d0f57804a6ce71b2230.jpg[/t]
With an RFID chip inside? Just curious.
collective security in the form of a military and a police force? an early form of communism???
[QUOTE=Stopper;39129323]Are they something like this?
[t]http://velqn.com/wp-content/plugins/image-shadow/cache/66bed77224fb7d0f57804a6ce71b2230.jpg[/t]
With an RFID chip inside? Just curious.[/QUOTE]
They're green and pretty, you can't even tell that there's an RFID chip in it.
Fairly modern design.
Let me just take a picture.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;39129352]They're green and pretty, you can't even tell that there's an RFID chip in it.
Fairly modern design.
Let me just take a picture.[/QUOTE]
Oh, you riffed on the design! I can't blame you though - ours looks like absolute shit, as you can see (they work though, so nobody really cares)
I went to Strasbourg a couple years back, for 4 euros (5.10 for a group of three) you got unlimited travel on their extensive tram and bus network for a day. Compare that to £2-£3 for a single bus journey in the UK and it's not hard to see why it's such a popular option - plus, it keeps the city centre very clear of cars, because it's miles cheaper to just park outside town and get a tram in. Unlimited free travel for residents sounds like the next logical step for public transport.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jQxJz.jpg?1[/IMG]
This is it.
Good on Estonia, free public transit is the way to go. Paying premium for a service which frequently doesn't work as it's supposed to is no fun and it encourages cheating (I would know..). I'd rather pay a wee bit more tax to get a properly functioning system. When every citizen has a say the system tends to work better.
FYI, It's only for registered Tallinn citizens - ie. you have to actually live in Tallinn to ride free.
For anyone who didn't bother to read the article
Oh, these are sexy as fuck.
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[QUOTE=Jaanus;39129497]FYI, It's only for registered Tallinn citizens - ie. you have to actually live in Tallinn to ride free.[/QUOTE]
The article says that. It's literally three lines.
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[QUOTE=demoguy08;39129496]Good on Estonia, free public transit is the way to go. Paying premium for a service which frequently doesn't work as it's supposed to is no fun and it encourages cheating (I would know..). I'd rather pay a wee bit more tax to get a properly functioning system. When every citizen has a say the system tends to work better.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully, more cities will adopt this over time. What's the next smallest capital in Europe?
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