• Rust to lose zombies, gain defence solutions as sales spiral; "We have been knocked on our arses by
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I never knew rust even had zombies, every video i've watched it's just PvP
[QUOTE=Arid;43531917]I never knew rust even had zombies, every video i've watched it's just PvP[/QUOTE] I can't stand how the majority of the players of this kind of game go "i am going to ignore the majority of this game's focus so that i can play it [I]exactly how i play every other game with guns in it[/I]".
[QUOTE=Reds;43531927]I can't stand how the majority of the players of this kind of game go "i am going to ignore the majority of this game's focus so that i can play it [I]exactly how i play every other game with guns in it[/I]".[/QUOTE] A few people do that, then everyone becomes paranoid and does the same because everyone else might do it too
[QUOTE=Reds;43531927]I can't stand how the majority of the players of this kind of game go "i am going to ignore the majority of this game's focus so that i can play it [I]exactly how i play every other game with guns in it[/I]".[/QUOTE] but that's literally the goal, zombies die in 1 hit and only exist to give you loot, it's a PvP survival game.
Yeah but a multiplayer survival game is supposed to put people in a mindset of self preservation and surviving, not "If I fight this guy, is there anything in it for me" No, he's naked and has a rock. "Shoot him anyway" That's just... ass
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43532389]Yeah but a multiplayer survival game is supposed to put people in a mindset of self preservation and surviving, not "If I fight this guy, is there anything in it for me" No, he's naked and has a rock. "Shoot him anyway" That's just... ass[/QUOTE] The problem is that everything in someones inventory is not visible. That naked and helpless guy could just as well have found an M4 and bullets for it at a loot area just a few minutes ago and shoot you in your back. Or he has a fuckton of resources on him you can use.
No mention of phasing out modern military weapons or even making them rarer/harder to craft? Come on man, this should be a caveman-like survival game with more primitive weapons not Call of Duty meets Minecraft.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43532389]Yeah but a multiplayer survival game is supposed to put people in a mindset of self preservation and surviving, not "If I fight this guy, is there anything in it for me" No, he's naked and has a rock. "Shoot him anyway" That's just... ass[/QUOTE] If you hang around that server for long, you're going to develop a reputation as a KOSer, and you may find yourself the target of posses who hunt you and basically harrass you (but on a gameplay way, not literal, abusive, Steam-will-punish-you harrassment!) for being a KOS'ing dickspigot. People have already begun organizing ("organizing", since it's usually scattershot random threads in the wrong section right now) bounty boards for disliked/unsportsmanlike players.
i like zombies for their loot [QUOTE=TheTalon;43532389]Yeah but a multiplayer survival game is supposed to put people in a mindset of self preservation and surviving, not "If I fight this guy, is there anything in it for me" No, he's naked and has a rock. "Shoot him anyway" That's just... ass[/QUOTE] if everyone was like you then i would just walk around without my clothes on and a rock out so people think i have nothing and therefore dont kill me
Good, the zombies were annoying.
[QUOTE=Xieneus;43533160]Good, the zombies were annoying.[/QUOTE] The bigger problem is that having zombies in the game attracted unusually retarded players, [I]EVEN[/I] when it were advertised that the zombies were just temporary generic placeholder enemies.
Rust has zombies in it? I'm not joking I wasn't even aware there were zombies.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43532389]Yeah but a multiplayer survival game is supposed to put people in a mindset of self preservation and surviving, not "If I fight this guy, is there anything in it for me" No, he's naked and has a rock. "Shoot him anyway" That's just... ass[/QUOTE] If you got everyone to stop that then there would be literally nothing to do in the game.
[QUOTE=Sir Drone;43533226]Rust has zombies in it? I'm not joking I wasn't even aware there were zombies.[/QUOTE] When I played that really early version, long time ago before it went to Steam, it had lods of zombies while this time, I haven't see any on the Steam version.
[QUOTE=Puni;43533656]If you got everyone to stop that then there would be literally nothing to do in the game.[/QUOTE] Or I could just play Counter Strike for the same gameplay, and not have to spend hours to get an M4 either
I don't think I've ever heard 'spiral' describe any other change but 'down'
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43533898]Or I could just play Counter Strike for the same gameplay, and not have to spend hours to get an M4 either[/QUOTE] There's a really big difference between PVP in a game like Rust or DayZ and a game like Counter Strike or TF2. The most obvious being that there's actual risk involved. If things go south, you lose your stuff and you're going to have to run for half an hour to get back to your buddies/find more equipment.
I'd buy Rust if it had singleplayer or co-op. Not a fan of the PvP in these types of games as the majority are assholes who shoot on sight.
[QUOTE=Zazibar;43532460]No mention of phasing out modern military weapons or even making them rarer/harder to craft? Come on man, this should be a caveman-like survival game with more primitive weapons not Call of Duty meets Minecraft.[/QUOTE] i think we've said about twenty thousand million billion times that military weapons are going to become extremely rare in the future to the point they will be a symbol of social status in the in-game societies the focus of the game is pretty much "makeshiftness", making "modern" items as best as you can with the means you've got
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43534177]i think we've said about twenty thousand million billion times that military weapons are going to become extremely rare in the future to the point they will be a symbol of social status in the in-game societies the focus of the game is pretty much "makeshiftness", making "modern" items as best as you can with the means you've got[/QUOTE] On that topic, the new makeshift revolver looks quite awesome. You guys are doing an amazing job!
How boring would multiplayer survival games be without PvP? There's really not much to do. Now the KoS mentality. Putting a gun in a players hands while another player walks around, and then giving him no reason to let him live, of course he'll shoot the guy.
[QUOTE=Niko_38;43534306]How boring would multiplayer survival games be without PvP? There's really not much to do. Now the KoS mentality. Putting a gun in a players hands while another player walks around, and then giving him no reason to let him live, of course he'll shoot the guy.[/QUOTE] minecraft was p. fun without pvp imo
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43534177]i think we've said about twenty thousand million billion times that military weapons are going to become extremely rare in the future to the point they will be a symbol of social status in the in-game societies the focus of the game is pretty much "makeshiftness", making "modern" items as best as you can with the means you've got[/QUOTE] Make it similar to Jedi's in SWG, on the rarity level.
[QUOTE=dai;43534071]I don't think I've ever heard 'spiral' describe any other change but 'down'[/QUOTE] "out of control" as well.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43534177]i think we've said about twenty thousand million billion times that military weapons are going to become extremely rare in the future to the point they will be a symbol of social status in the in-game societies the focus of the game is pretty much "makeshiftness", making "modern" items as best as you can with the means you've got[/QUOTE] I'm fully aware that it's been stated multiple times, I was just making a point that it wasn't mentioned as a priority when, in my opinion, it should be up there with removing zombies. I love the game but the balance issues with the modern weapons are a huge deal for me.
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