• Steam's new gifting restrictions regarding VAC-enabled games
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Added to the Steam Support Knowledge Base around 1 hour ago: [QUOTE]VAC and Game Ban enabled games can either be bought for your own account, or gifted immediately. They can no longer be saved to your inventory for trading purposes. If you gift a game to someone who gets permanently banned, you won’t be able to gift that game again. [b]How does this affect gifting?[/b] When a user is caught cheating, their Steam account is banned from playing multi-player on secured servers. This creates an incentive for people who cheat to stockpile copies of games on one account and to gift them to low value accounts where they can continue cheating. In response to this problem, Steam no longer allows users to purchase copies of VAC or Game Ban enabled games to their inventory. Additionally, if an account has previously gifted a game to other players who have been VAC or permanently Game Banned, then that account will lose the ability to gift that game. We’ve taken these steps to ensure the integrity of the multi-player experience for those participating in online gaming communities. We understand that the restrictions on buying to inventory may be inconvenient for some legitimate users, but we believe that these steps will reduce the number of cheaters you’ll play against. And that’s important in having an online gaming experience that’s fair and enjoyable for everyone.[/QUOTE] [url]https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1327-WUJX-5722[/url] You can't buy gift copies of VAC/Game ban enabled games straight to your inventory now. This combats g2a and other stuff. If you gift a friend Rust, a Valve game, or a Call of Duty game and they get permanently banned, you won't be able to gift anyone that game ever again. [url=http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&category2=8]Here are the 98 VAC-enabled games on Steam[/url]. These rules also apply to permanent developer-issued Game Bans too, however. Now you gotta be careful. If you enjoy giving the gift of Valve games, Rust, or Call of Duty, you have to give it to friends who won't cheat get their account compromised. Even simple board games like 100% Orange Juice are VAC-enabled. You might have to start buying those games from a second account. The rules are similar to Family Sharing.
This does nothing to people who spam alts to cheat.
Then don't cheat or play with cheaters. Thanks steam
I don't see what this is meant to combat, all it does is place more restrictions on users.
Lets say im a cheater on cod Whats the fucking point? to stop me buying loads of copies and sending them to alts? Edit: I guess it does fuck over g2a sellers lmfao
[QUOTE=Jelman;50830283]Lets say im a cheater on cod Whats the fucking point? to stop me buying loads of copies and sending them to alts?[/QUOTE] g2a has a decent amount of gift copies and not just keys so maybe it combats that a little Edit: nvm saw your edit
So if I'm a cheater I just use a new payment method on the new account if I get caught so hard what are you doing valve this won't stop shit
Valve becomes more shit every day.
[QUOTE=phygon;50830292]So if I'm a cheater I just use a new payment method on the new account if I get caught so hard what are you doing valve this won't stop shit[/QUOTE] They think it will [QUOTE]We’ve taken these steps to ensure the integrity of the multi-player experience for those participating in online gaming communities. We understand that the restrictions on buying to inventory may be inconvenient for some legitimate users, but we believe that these steps will reduce the number of cheaters you’ll play against. And that’s important in having an online gaming experience that’s fair and enjoyable for everyone.[/QUOTE] Also it doesnt block your payment method, it just blocks you from buying and gifting the game on that one account.
[QUOTE=raz r23;50830273]Then don't cheat or play with cheaters. Thanks steam[/QUOTE] It's pretty easy to get VAC bans without cheating: See: modded MW2 lobbies. I think a lot of people use that as an excuse, but it's still a thing that happened.
[QUOTE=Jelman;50830311]They think it will[/QUOTE] How on earth would it though? Again, if I want to cheat, I'll just use a [I]new payment method[/I] which REALLY isn't that hard because[URL="https://blog.bitpay.com/load-your-steam-wallet-using-bitcoin/"] steam takes bitcoins[/URL]
what the fuck are they thinking
[QUOTE=phygon;50830318]How on earth would it though? Again, if I want to cheat, I'll just use a [I]new payment method[/I] which REALLY isn't that hard because[URL="https://blog.bitpay.com/load-your-steam-wallet-using-bitcoin/"] steam takes bitcoins[/URL][/QUOTE] Funny, my friend is setting up dev accounts that way right now. Even ESEA is on steam now, so you can get that anonymously as well.
it's not right to punish me for whatever stupid shit my friends do. this does nothing to prevent cheaters, it's ultimately pointless.
[QUOTE=Jelman;50830283]Lets say im a cheater on cod Whats the fucking point? to stop me buying loads of copies and sending them to alts? Edit: I guess it does fuck over g2a sellers lmfao[/QUOTE] I guess to stop you from stockpiling copies of games when they go on sale to send to alts later on.
These are just flat out retarded
I think the idea is to stop you from buying like 20 copies of Rust or whatever while it is on sale, and then gifting them to alts, rather than having to pay full price each time?
[QUOTE=Jelman;50830283]Lets say im a cheater on cod Whats the fucking point? to stop me buying loads of copies and sending them to alts? Edit: I guess it does fuck over g2a sellers lmfao[/QUOTE] It doesn't though, g2a uses cd keys not inventory gifts This literally only harms people trading game items and cards for games
[QUOTE=winsanity;50830353]I guess to stop you from stockpiling copies of games when they go on sale to send to alts later on.[/QUOTE] They disabled gifting CS:GO during this sale, I'm guessing they're doing this to allow gifting it again during the christmas sale. Pretty shitty solution though, people will just stock up on alts during the sale instead of inventory copies.
i don't see what all of you are complaining about. this is a perfect idea and i applaud valve for creating and implementing it.
So let me get this straight, if I buy someone a game for say a gift thread, and that guy goes and hacks in it and gets banned, I'm suddenly at fault and now unable to give gifts of that game to anyone anymore? What the fuck, Valve. Stop being complete and utter shit. Make videogames again, and actually give a shit about your customers.
[QUOTE=Trixil;50830391]i don't see what all of you are complaining about. this is a perfect idea and i applaud valve for creating and implementing it.[/QUOTE] It's stupid as fuck and punishes legit users. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50830395]So let me get this straight, if I buy someone a game for say a gift thread, and that guy goes and hacks in it and gets banned, I'm suddenly at fault and now unable to give gifts to anyone anymore? What the fuck, Valve. Stop being complete and utter shit. Make videogames again, and actually give a shit about your customers.[/QUOTE] I think it's only for that game, but yup.
While I could see where they're going with this, if anything requires a three strikes policy, it's this. If three friends you happened to gift the same game to are VAC banned in that game, something probably actually is up. If just one friend does, you're probably getting blamed for something you didn't intend.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50830371]It doesn't though, g2a uses cd keys not inventory gifts This literally only harms people trading game items and cards for games[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/KiRmAgR.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/1wfcd87.png[/t] G2A do use gifts. They send you the URL to accept the gift once you've bought it. Literally the recommended offer for rocket league on g2a is a gift. [t]http://i.imgur.com/RNMOAjX.png[/t] Obviously rocket league doesnt use VAC but G2A does sell inventory gifts. EDIT: Even rust on g2a offers gifts, so if cheaters buy copies of rust on g2a then the seller is fucked. [t]http://i.imgur.com/xAtdgvU.png[/t] It fucks over g2a sellers and cheaters as copies may become more expensive if keys are hard to get.
The fuck is wrong with you people? What did they do wrong here that apparently makes Valve more shit or retarded? This is pretty directly targeted at places that sell games in bulk in the third party like G2A, preventing them from stockpiling games that hackers can buy on the cheap. It also hinders people from just giving their dumbass friends games on new alt accounts over and over when they get banned.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50830427]The fuck is wrong with you people? What did they do wrong here that apparently makes Valve more shit or retarded? This is pretty directly targeted at places that sell games in bulk in the third party like G2A, preventing them from stockpiling games that hackers can buy on the cheap. It also hinders people from just giving their dumbass friends games on new alt accounts over and over when they get banned.[/QUOTE] I see the reasoning behind it and agree. If you're sending gifts of rust, cod etc. to your friends and they're getting banned then stop sending gift copies to friends.
What prevents someone from gifting all the gifts to alts and THEN cheat?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50830395]So let me get this straight, if I buy someone a game for say a gift thread, and that guy goes and hacks in it and gets banned, I'm suddenly at fault and now unable to give gifts of that game to anyone anymore? What the fuck, Valve. Stop being complete and utter shit. Make videogames again, and actually give a shit about your customers.[/QUOTE] Don't just give shit out at random. Take a moment to consider the people you're gifting to.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50830436]What prevents someone from gifting all the gifts to alts and THEN cheat?[/QUOTE] Nothing
How many people actually end up gifting the same vac enabled games so much that not being able to becomes a problem if they get banned from gifting that game? I expect a massive percentage of people who buy more than one gift of a game are gifting to themselves. It hurts legit users a bit, but honestly how often is it essential that you buy a third copy of csgo, and only csgo, for your cousin but you're friend already got a vac ban?
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