• Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China
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[quote]ecret U.S. missile and electro-optics technology was transferred to China recently by Israel, prompting anger from the U.S. and causing a senior Israeli defense official to resign. The head of defense exports for the Israeli Defense Ministry resigned after a U.S. investigation concluded that technology, including a miniature refrigeration system manufactured by Ricor and used for missiles and in electro-optic equipment, was sent to China, according to the Israeli newspaper [/quote] [quote]Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China. In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, The Associated Press reported in 2002.[/quote] [url]http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china/[/url]
[QUOTE=Lamar;43309606][url]http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china/[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]including a miniature refrigeration system manufactured by Rico[/quote] Oh no. China has access to minifridges. It's over.
Yeah. I've posted this in Israel threads about seventeen times. They're the #1 exporter of Arms to China, surpassing Russia lol.
I thought it wasn't a secret that Israel is out for Israel and will deal with anyone it wishes to get ahead?
They're literally responsible for China having a modern airforce. I'm legitimately fearful of what happens when Israel gets the F-35, they'll be selling all our super stealth tech to fucking China. It's literally happened for every generation of planes since 19 fucking 75. [editline]25th December 2013[/editline] Literally the main reason why the F-22 wasn't exported. [editline]25th December 2013[/editline] I'll just leave this here. China's main jet at the moment was designed by the USA, For Israel, who in turn sold the most advanced fighter tech on the planet at the time to China. Causing their airforce to go from this. [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/F-6_fighter_at_the_China_Aviation_Museum.jpg[/t] To this. [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/J-10a_zhas.png[/t] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10[/url]
"What are you going to do about it America? Nothing? ... Nothing?! Just like you always do, nothing!?" I once heard a friend's little sister say that, but to her mom instead.
[QUOTE=tirpider;43309720]"What are you going to do about it America? Nothing? ... Nothing?! Just like you always do, nothing!?" I once heard a friend's little sister say that, but to her mom instead.[/QUOTE] The DoD considers Israel and Mossad to be among the top threats. Because of politics and the fucking huge israel lobby, along with Evangelicals supporting Israel since the bible says that the apocalypse will happen if we do.
America really needs to update and improve it's protocols for keeping technology secret. I mean, what's the point of spending trillions of tax payer dollars in some Area 51 bunker to build wonder weapons if China and other less than respectable state can acquire the the blueprints?
Ones of people are completely shocked.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43309677]They're literally responsible for China having a modern airforce. I'm legitimately fearful of what happens when Israel gets the F-35, they'll be selling all our super stealth tech to fucking China. It's literally happened for every generation of planes since 19 fucking 75.[/QUOTE] Well they managed to hack data about it out of BAE's IT systems in the UK already, so I'd imagine they're well on the road to making their own version of it anyway.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43309660]I thought it wasn't a secret that Israel is out for Israel and will deal with anyone it wishes to get ahead?[/QUOTE] You imply as if Israel is merely acting autonomously, this is pretty big for a country that relies exclusively on the United States for aid and support when no other country will back it. [quote] Another Israeli news site, Aretz Sheva, reports the [B]U.S. is concerned the technology could ultimately find its way to Iran[/B], which last year sought to buy military equipment from China for its nuclear program. Defense.org [/quote] Lmao, serves the idiots right. Would you say the same if Iran used that techology to attack US-based ships?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;43310066]You imply as if Israel is merely acting autonomously, this is pretty big for a country that relies exclusively on the United States for aid and support when no other country will back it. [/QUOTE] Israel has a history of taking what it can from any nation to further its goals. From Great Britain in the beginning, to the USSR and Czechoslovakia during its independence to America today. So long as money is working its way through Israel, I doubt it cares who it's from or how it got there.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43309677]They're literally responsible for China having a modern airforce. I'm legitimately fearful of what happens when Israel gets the F-35, they'll be selling all our super stealth tech to fucking China. It's literally happened for every generation of planes since 19 fucking 75. ][/QUOTE] China is already developing two stealth aircraft, the Chengdu J-20 and the Shenyang J-31. Wouldn't say Israel is to blame for that though, they got the stealth tech from one of our F-117's which got shot down by the Serbs. Here's the J-20, [url]http://imageshack.us/a/img515/5082/jx3cu.jpg[/url] and here is the J-31 [url]http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/11/04/1226509/942855-j-31.jpg[/url]
Which part of their airforce does China actually design themselves? Their helicopters are designed by Russia, their stealth fighter jet was probably a design with the help of the US and Russia.
I thought the resale of any American military goods was illegal?
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;43310639]I thought the resale of any American military goods was illegal?[/QUOTE] Anti-semite.
Of course the US helped them design their aircraft, they stole it off DoD computers, lol. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-list-of-the-us-weapons-designs-and-technologies-compromised-by-hackers/2013/05/27/a95b2b12-c483-11e2-9fe2-6ee52d0eb7c1_story.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;43310639]I thought the resale of any American military goods was illegal?[/QUOTE] So is occupying another country by force, or spying on the CIA, or impersonating a United States Federal Agent, or etc. Israel doesn't give a single fuck what international law thinks, and they know we won't try to stop them.
Israel literally has american flag patches as part of their armies kits, so if shit goes down, they can swap the velcro.
So is anyone ever going to do anything about Israel? I just don't get how shit like this is possible, "only ally in middle-east" or not.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;43312149]So is anyone ever going to do anything about Israel? I just don't get how shit like this is possible, "only ally in middle-east" or not.[/QUOTE] they're not even our only ally in the middle east, i'm still baffled why we are still supporting them
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43312129]Israel literally has american flag patches as part of their armies kits, so if shit goes down, they can swap the velcro.[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure they'd need more than just a flag patch to convince anyone they are Americans. They'd need ACUs, MCCUUs, etc to go with that. Our uniforms don't look like theirs at all. Also, where did you find out about that?
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43312129]Israel literally has american flag patches as part of their armies kits, so if shit goes down, they can swap the velcro.[/QUOTE] Source? [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;43312175]they're not even our only ally in the middle east, i'm still baffled why we are still supporting them[/QUOTE] Extremely large pro-Israel lobby in Washington DC dictates America's foreign policy regarding Israel.
[QUOTE=Pilot1215;43310722]Of course the US helped them design their aircraft, they stole it off DoD computers, lol. [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-list-of-the-us-weapons-designs-and-technologies-compromised-by-hackers/2013/05/27/a95b2b12-c483-11e2-9fe2-6ee52d0eb7c1_story.html[/url][/QUOTE] I really wonder how much of this shit goes on behind the scenes. It's insane.
Wtf is goin on lately with Israel, its seems like they are kissing everyones ass but America's
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;43312340]I am pretty sure they'd need more than just a flag patch to convince anyone they are Americans. They'd need ACUs, MCCUUs, etc to go with that. Our uniforms don't look like theirs at all. Also, where did you find out about that?[/QUOTE]To be honest, getting current-generation US infantry equipment isn't hard at all. You can go online and buy it, and if you run a surplus store you can get it in bulk. I'd imagine if Israel really wanted it's soldiers to look like they belonged in the US military, they could get an agent (or someone from one of the many, many, many pro-Israel Jewish organizations here) to open up a shop and start buying in bulk. From that point on, it's a smuggling operation that Israel has proven to be quite good at. You can get everything up to weapons, and if you try hard enough, I'm sure you can get those too. (at least the ones Israel doesn't already have, they use a lot of the same equipment as the United States)
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;43317424]pro-Israel [B]Jewish[/B] organizations[/QUOTE] We got another one here. Calling the Mossad, the FBI, the DHS, Sobotnik and the IDF.
And suddenly a /pol/
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43309754]The DoD considers Israel and Mossad to be among the top threats. Because of politics and the fucking huge israel lobby, along with Evangelicals supporting Israel since the bible says that the apocalypse will happen if we do.[/QUOTE] And those fucknuts have an unsettlingly large amount of pull in the capital.
[QUOTE=Skarr;43312493]I really wonder how much of this shit goes on behind the scenes. It's insane.[/QUOTE] A lot more than most people could ever really guess. They've stolen nuclear secrets, top secret plans, etc and this is just the stuff they broadcast on the nightly news. We have no idea what else they've hacked, attempted to hack, or been caught trying to hack. This news about the Israeli's giving military secrets to the Chinese just adds to it. China's probably also getting info from other sources as well.
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