Even Donald Trump is opposed to North Carolina's discriminatory "Bathroom Bill" HB2 - Polidicks

[QUOTE][IMG]http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/21/21-donald-trump.w1366.h908.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Donald Trump says transgender people should be able to "use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate." On NBC's Today show Thursday morning, the GOP front-runner said he opposes North Carolina's "very strong" bathroom bill, which allows businesses to prohibit transgender people from doing just that. "North Carolina did something that was very strong and they're paying a big price. And there's a lot of problems." Trump said. "Leave it the way it is. North Carolina, what they're going through, with all of the business and all of the strife — and that's on both sides — you leave it the way it is. There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic punishment they're taking." Trump went on to say that he opposes the idea of creating a new, third bathroom specifically for transgender people because "that would be discriminatory, in a certain way," and because "it would be unbelievably expensive for businesses and for the country." North Carolina governor Pat McCrory's office issued a statement in response to Trump's remarks: Governor McCrory has always said that North Carolina was getting along fine before the Charlotte city council passed its unneeded and overreaching ordinance. Now that it has been overturned, businesses can adopt their own policies - like Target has - instead of being mandated to allow men into women's restrooms by government.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/trump-opposes-north-carolina-bathroom-bill.html?mid=twitter-share-di"]New York Magazine[/URL] Never thought my state would be the one to make Trump look progressive.

I've never seen someone first say something slightly positive about transgender rights but simultaneously say no to gay marriage AND civil unions.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;50176130]I've never seen someone first say something slightly positive about transgender rights but simultaneously say no to gay marriage AND civil unions.[/QUOTE] I guess that makes him more like the Grand Ayatollah.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;50176130]I've never seen someone first say something slightly positive about transgender rights but simultaneously say no to gay marriage AND civil unions.[/QUOTE] I'm thinking the best way to summarize Trump's stance on LGBT rights is "I don't like it but there's bigger problems to deal with at the moment"

[QUOTE=Amfleet;50176106][URL="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/trump-opposes-north-carolina-bathroom-bill.html?mid=twitter-share-di"]New York Magazine[/URL] Never thought my state would be the one to make Trump look progressive.[/QUOTE] trump is very progressive as republicans go. have you actually followed his policies to formulate your own opinion or just parroted off what tumblr has told you about him?

[QUOTE=butre;50176235]trump is very progressive as republicans go. have you actually followed his policies to formulate your own opinion or just parroted off what tumblr has told you about him?[/QUOTE] People love a pantomime villain.

[QUOTE=butre;50176235]trump is very progressive as republicans go. have you actually followed his policies to formulate your own opinion or just parroted off what tumblr has told you about him?[/QUOTE] You misread me, and no, I do not read Tumblr. Trump might be [I]relatively[/I] progressive as far as conservatives go, but I had always thought my state was more towards the center. I am very aware of his policies- I posted this because he had just announced this viewpoint.

I'm willing to keep an open mind if it's Trump v Hillary. If Trump: -Publicly accepts climate change and is willing to work to push renewable energy (nuclear would fit him). -Won't completely destroy Obamacare, like pushing people off their insurance and getting rid of good things like pre-existing conditions and putting us back where we were or worse. -Is at least better on civil liberties than Hillary, although both are complete authoritarians on this, and protects net neutrality. It would probably be enough for me to sway for him.

[QUOTE=butre;50176235]trump is very progressive as republicans go. have you actually followed his policies to formulate your own opinion or just parroted off what tumblr has told you about him?[/QUOTE] Ah yes, only dirty SJW's on Tumblr dislike Trump.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50176563]Ah yes, only dirty SJW's on Tumblr dislike Trump.[/QUOTE] tumblr is a mostly lefty and liberal community. look on any liberal-based media or news platform and you'll find the same thing. i'd say a majority people who dislike trump only do because buzzfeed or huffpost politics said "hes racist and misogynist and ableist and you should hate him" i'm not saying all trump haters are sheep, because he definitely has flaws, but alot of people probably know very little about his actual political stances

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;50176459]I'm willing to keep an open mind if it's Trump v Hillary. If Trump: -Publicly accepts climate change and is willing to work to push renewable energy (nuclear would fit him). -Won't completely destroy Obamacare, like pushing people off their insurance and getting rid of good things like pre-existing conditions and putting us back where we were or worse. -Is at least better on civil liberties than Hillary, although both are complete authoritarians on this, and protects net neutrality. It would probably be enough for me to sway for him.[/QUOTE] Trump through a shitstorm over wind mills being built near his golf course, if he even hinted that climate change is a problem he would lose half of his voters. Trump knows next to nothing on technology, its debated whether he even owns a computer. He came out against Apple in the encryption debate and one can only assume he would make another horrible decision and ruin the internet with net neutrality. [QUOTE=upsideonion;50176601] i'd say a majority people who dislike trump only do because buzzfeed or huffpost politics said "hes racist and misogynist and ableist and you should hate him" [/QUOTE] Or maybe we heard one word out of his mouth over the past 8 months?

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;50176459]I'm willing to keep an open mind if it's Trump v Hillary. If Trump: -Publicly accepts climate change and is willing to work to push renewable energy (nuclear would fit him). -Won't completely destroy Obamacare, like pushing people off their insurance and getting rid of good things like pre-existing conditions and putting us back where we were or worse. -Is at least better on civil liberties than Hillary, although both are complete authoritarians on this, and protects net neutrality. It would probably be enough for me to sway for him.[/QUOTE] what? where did you get those facts [quote]DONALD TRUMP: I think there’s a change in weather. I am not a great believer in man-made climate change. I’m not a great believer. There is certainly a change in weather that goes – if you look, they had global cooling in the 1920s and now they have global warming, although now they don’t know if they have global warming. They call it all sorts of different things; now they’re using “extreme weather” I guess more than any other phrase. I am not – I know it hurts me with this room, and I know it’s probably a killer with this room – but I am not a believer. Perhaps there’s a minor effect, but I’m not a big believer in man-made climate change.[/quote] [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/03/22/this-is-the-only-type-of-climate-change-donald-trump-believes-in/[/url] [quote]Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.[/quote] [url]https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform[/url] on civil liberties, he opposes abortion, gay marriage, will heavily defund planned parenthood and wants to bring back waterboarding. i don't like clinton, but if you want someone to maintain the status quo with varied progressive policies, clinton is pretty much your ideal match.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;50176130]I've never seen someone first say something slightly positive about transgender rights but simultaneously say no to gay marriage AND civil unions.[/QUOTE] Trumeps going to have to fire the haruspex who tells him what his views for the day are.

[QUOTE=Bobie;50176614]what? where did you get those facts [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/03/22/this-is-the-only-type-of-climate-change-donald-trump-believes-in/[/url] [url]https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform[/url] on civil liberties, he opposes abortion, gay marriage, will heavily defund planned parenthood and wants to bring back waterboarding. i don't like clinton, but if you want someone to maintain the status quo with varied progressive policies, clinton is pretty much your ideal match.[/QUOTE] I think you misread what he was saying he was saying "If Donald trump does these things (admits climate change is real, etc), I might reconsider him"

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50176563]Ah yes, only dirty SJW's on Tumblr dislike Trump.[/QUOTE] I never said anything about "SJWs" and I'm honestly not even entirely sure what that means. I mention tumblr because it's a safe haven for uninformed 12 year olds who cry about how much their parents don't understand their love of bernie sanders

Keep in mind he said this while he was on [i]NBC[/i]. Trump has a track record of just saying whatever he thinks will get the best reception at the time whether it has any basis in what he believes or not.

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;50176629]I think you misread what he was saying he was saying "If Donald trump does these things (admits climate change is real, etc), I might reconsider him"[/QUOTE] shit, my bad

[QUOTE=Bobie;50176614][quote]DONALD TRUMP: I think there’s a change in weather. I am not a great believer in man-made climate change. I’m not a great believer. There is certainly a change in weather that goes – if you look, they had global cooling in the 1920s and now they have global warming, although now they don’t know if they have global warming. They call it all sorts of different things; now they’re using “extreme weather” I guess more than any other phrase. I am not – I know it hurts me with this room, and I know it’s probably a killer with this room – but I am not a believer. Perhaps there’s a minor effect, but I’m not a big believer in man-made climate change.[/quote][/QUOTE] The way Trump speaks is interesting to me. It's almost like you can hear his thought processes as he's talking. Like his mouth is saying words before his brain thinks about him. Often times it ends up with him saying his signature inflammatory bullshit. He's got a very distinct speaking style.

[QUOTE=butre;50176631]I never said anything about "SJWs" and I'm honestly not even entirely sure what that means. I mention tumblr because it's a safe haven for uninformed 12 year olds who cry about how much their parents don't understand their love of bernie sanders[/QUOTE] And you used it to create a convenient strawman because of Tumblr's left-wing reputation. Like I said, I don't read or use that site, I get most of my news from here or the BBC. Yet, whenever someone insinuates that Trump is radically conservative (on some points he is, overall he is not) those who tend more to his views will invoke "12-year olds on Tumblr" in order to attempt to discredit their viewpoint.

[QUOTE=butre;50176235]trump is very progressive as republicans go. have you actually followed his policies to formulate your own opinion or just parroted off what tumblr has told you about him?[/QUOTE] "he's not like one of them crazy republicans" except he actually is in a good few areas, some of them pillars of leftist ideals as far as america goes

Trump is a transgender, i mean look at him his wig looks like the wind whisked all the hair off Miley Cyrus's muff and it landed on good old Donalds shiner.

[QUOTE=Source;50176686]Trump is a transgender, i mean look at him his wig looks like the wind whisked all the hair off Miley Cyrus's muff and it landed on good old Donalds shiner.[/QUOTE] top contender for worst post 2016

[QUOTE=upsideonion;50176601]tumblr is a mostly lefty and liberal community. look on any liberal-based media or news platform and you'll find the same thing. i'd say a majority people who dislike trump only do because buzzfeed or huffpost politics said "hes racist and misogynist and ableist and you should hate him" i'm not saying all trump haters are sheep, because he definitely has flaws, but alot of people probably know very little about his actual political stances[/QUOTE] Nobody's more guilty of being ignorant of his policies than his supporters. His entire campagin is built demagoguery and sloganeering. For months, it was like squeezing blood from a stone getting anything other than the holy trinity of "America needs a businessman, he speaks his mind, he's not in anybody's pocket" out of his supporters on FP.

[QUOTE=upsideonion;50176601]i'm not saying all trump haters are sheep, because he definitely has flaws, but alot of people probably know very little about his actual political stances[/QUOTE] He literally said he could kill a man in the middle of the city and he would not lose any support, and you are calling his opponents sheep? Trump evidently thinks his own following is extremely sheepish if he believes they'll support him even as a murderer.

[QUOTE=butre;50176631]I never said anything about "SJWs" and I'm honestly not even entirely sure what that means. I mention tumblr because it's a safe haven for uninformed 12 year olds who cry about how much their parents don't understand their love of bernie sanders[/QUOTE] "only 12 year olds don't like trump" do you see the enormous stupidity in jumping from one generalization to the next in a desperate bid to prove to us that it's only people you don't respect that could possibly hold a different opinion to you? I get that Bernie bros are condescending but Trump supporters [B]always[/B] take it to another level.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50176728]He literally said he could kill a man in the middle of the city and he would not lose any support, and you are calling his opponents sheep? Trump evidently thinks his own following is extremely sheepish if he believes they'll support him even as a murderer.[/QUOTE] i do agree most of trump's supporters are racist hilbillies who will believe anything he says, but what i'm saying is that their is far more trump hate everywhere you look being spewed out by lefties. you won't ever see an article by CNN telling you about how retarded bernie sanders looks or that he had a silly last name once upon a time. you won't see ever high school teachers showing their class videos of bernie or hillary fucking up their lines donald trump is an easy target to make fun of and the lefties use that as their main weapon to paste everywhere

[QUOTE=upsideonion;50176895]i do agree most of trump's supporters are racist hilbillies who will believe anything he says, but what i'm saying is that their is far more trump hate everywhere you look being spewed out by lefties. you won't ever see an article by CNN telling you about how retarded bernie sanders looks or that he had a silly last name once upon a time. you won't see ever high school teachers showing their class videos of bernie or hillary fucking up their lines donald trump is an easy target to make fun of and the lefties use that as their main weapon to paste everywhere[/QUOTE] Trump holds genuinely terrible views, so yes, he's going to get hate. I'm not the least bit sorry that Trump gets called what he gets called when he has genuinely made offensive, and flat out retarded statements. You cannot tell me a candidate that wants to build a 30 billion dollar wall isn't a fucking mongoloid, especially when said candidate says he'll force a foreign government to pay for it. No, you have to explain how come that's something a credible person would do.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50176904]wants to build a 30 billion dollar wall isn't a fucking mongoloid[/QUOTE] Technically no, that makes him... Chinese.

[QUOTE=upsideonion;50176895]i do agree most of trump's supporters are racist hilbillies who will believe anything he says, but what i'm saying is that their is far more trump hate everywhere you look being spewed out by lefties. you won't ever see an article by CNN telling you about how retarded bernie sanders looks or that he had a silly last name once upon a time. you won't see ever high school teachers showing their class videos of bernie or hillary fucking up their lines donald trump is an easy target to make fun of and the lefties use that as their main weapon to paste everywhere[/QUOTE] but bernie sanders doesn't say the shit trump does. even the most impartial of people can see this. i'm not even talking about political views here. you can equate them all you want, but bernie isn't encouraging his supporters to kick people out and take their coats

Trump seems to have a lot of his supporters angry at him for this. I thought that most of his supporters were normal people until I saw this outrage. Way to show your true colors.