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[quote]A 23-year-old man has died after suffering a suspected cardiac arrest during the Brighton marathon.
The runner, who is believed to be from London, was treated by paramedics and an off duty police officer after he collapsed in Grand Avenue in Hove.
Sussex Police said he was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton for emergency surgery but was pronounced dead later.
The force said the runner's next of kin had been informed.[/quote]
I had a friend who's favorite thing to do in life was run, that hobby was taken away from him when he found out he had a serious underlying heart condition (his heart would stop under a lot of stress)
According to legend, the man who ran the first marathon died shortly after delivering the message of victory.
It's a shame this happens, really. Runners should get a quick check for any threatening conditions before they try to run a marathon.
so much for staying healthy
Marfan Syndrome, possibly. SCD is common in those with Marfan syndrome because they suddenly fall into Vtachy/vfib and they aren't even aware that they have the disorder. This really sucks.
This is pretty common actually. My dad ran a lot of marathons when he was younger and lots of people get really sick because they didn't train properly.
Did he at least finish before dying?
This is why I don't run or exercise.
This story is so late there's a fucking wikipedia article on it: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon#Origin[/url]
Get your shit together OP.
i guess not snip
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40279708]This story is so late there's a fucking wikipedia article on it: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon#Origin[/url]
Get your shit together OP.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? :v:
[QUOTE=Higginz511;40279745]NO GUYS STOP DISCUSSING THIS[/QUOTE]
Did you even read what he linked? It was obviously a joke
What is healthy these days? Even running a marathon is not making you healthy, and i've just read that doing exercises is healthy and to prevent heart diseases etc. These stuff just makes me frightening if you think about it. Your just doing something healthy and you die. But ofcourse there is no information how he lived. So maybe he had an unhealthy life?
I feel bad for laughing at that title.
[QUOTE=snijboer;40279980]What is healthy these days? Even running a marathon is not making you healthy, and i've just read that doing exercises is healthy and to prevent heart diseases etc. These stuff just makes me frightening if you think about it. Your just doing something healthy and you die. But ofcourse there is no information how he lived. So maybe he had an unhealthy life?[/QUOTE]
It is not what you do, but how you do it. Doing something extremely, especially when the body isn't adapted to it yet, is bad.
Balance is everything.
Eat no sweets, you get moody and crave them so that you eat too much of them. Your body can't use up all the extra energy and most of it turns to fat. Do no sports, obviously not good for your health, do too much and you may end up damaging your joints. Etc, etc, etc...
[QUOTE=snijboer;40279980]What is healthy these days? Even running a marathon is not making you healthy, and i've just read that doing exercises is healthy and to prevent heart diseases etc. These stuff just makes me frightening if you think about it. Your just doing something healthy and you die. But ofcourse there is no information how he lived. So maybe he had an unhealthy life?[/QUOTE]
He might have been living a very healthy life in the form of exercise and diet, but if he had an undiagnosed underlying cardiac problem, it can cause heart attacks and such under large stress like running a marathon, even though you might be fine while doing normal exercise and such.
So please do keep exercising and keep up a healthy diet, they're not the thing doing the killing here.
I thought this was common? There's always something fatal/near fatal in marathons.
[QUOTE=D3TBS;40279282]so much for staying healthy[/QUOTE]
Something tells me he wasn't fit for a marathon in the first place.
But then again, who the fuck wants to run a marathon? Straining and sweating yourself to death with hundreds of other dumb-fucks along your side, no thanks.
[QUOTE=snijboer;40279980]What is healthy these days? Even running a marathon is not making you healthy, and i've just read that doing exercises is healthy and to prevent heart diseases etc. These stuff just makes me frightening if you think about it. Your just doing something healthy and you die. But ofcourse there is no information how he lived. So maybe he had an unhealthy life?[/QUOTE]
Any type of exercise can be potentially dangerous but Marathons take your body to the absolute limits. I'd say the marathon makes it even more dangerous since you have the pressure of onlookers so you may be influenced to keep going even if you're in pain.
You don't have to run miles to be fit and healthy. I'm no physician but I think its prolonged rapid heart rate that could lead to heart attack or other conditions. Some of those people running are for hours at a time and if your heart isnt trained right it can be damaging. I eat right, work out, and do cardio but I keep it down to 45 minutes a day. Early man wasnt meant to run for miles at a time but only in bursts for hunting. Idk though. Scary shit...
[QUOTE=Fractalz;40283145]You don't have to run miles to be fit and healthy. I'm no physician but I think its prolonged rapid heart rate that could lead to heart attack or other conditions. Some of those people running are for hours at a time and if your heart isnt trained right it can be damaging. I eat right, work out, and do cardio but I keep it down to 45 minutes a day. Early man wasnt meant to run for miles at a time but only in bursts for hunting. Idk though. Scary shit...[/QUOTE]
Uhm no, what made us human was running. We can travel on land, for long distances much longer than any other mammal. Evolutionarily you can see this from our upright pelvises, and our sweat system allows for cooling of our body. Early humans where pack hunters who chased their prey down for miles in the hot African savannah, until the animal died of heatstroke.
Yeah, that's me if I try to do something stupid like run a marathon. Now I know why I feel like I'm about to die after 1/4 mile of running: It's because I am [I]literally[/I] about to die.
Fuck running, we have something better:
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Marathons are actually bad for you. Running is good for you, but marathons are just too much, they do more long term damage than they're worth.
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;40283317]Uhm no, what made us human was running. We can travel on land, for long distances much longer than any other mammal. Evolutionarily you can see this from our upright pelvises, and our sweat system allows for cooling of our body. Early humans where pack hunters who chased their prey down for miles in the hot African savannah, until the animal died of heatstroke.[/QUOTE]
Persistence running is considered by many to be a perpetuated myth. The chance of success and the energy used up during the run and the return make it extremely inefficient, if not deadly for the tribe.
We didn't even need to run. We could track. Humans are natural and very efficient long distance walkers. So long as we didn't lose track k of our prey, we could death march it basically.
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Of course, it seems more likely that we would set traps, use pack tactics, and ambush prey.
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;40278961]I had a friend who's favorite thing to do in life was run, that hobby was taken away from him when he found out he had a serious underlying heart condition (his heart would stop under a lot of stress)[/QUOTE]
what if he was stressed over the fact his heart stops when hes stressed??????
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40284714]Now I know why I feel like I'm about to die after 1/4 mile of running: It's because I am [I]literally[/I] about to die.
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I think that's because you're out of shape...
[QUOTE=Socram;40290031]I think that's because you're out of shape...[/QUOTE]
Oh, totally. Therefore, I have enough sense not to run a marathon. I don't wanna be that guy on tv whose heart, like, exploded after completing 1 out of the 5 Ks.
[QUOTE=Collin665;40286012]Persistence running is considered by many to be a perpetuated myth. The chance of success and the energy used up during the run and the return make it extremely inefficient, if not deadly for the tribe.[/QUOTE]
Not to say they didn't use tools, you could imagine how quickly an animal with no sweat glands would start to slow down in 100F+ heat. Many indian tribes practiced marathon running, they would use it to deliver messages. The Iroquois could deliver messages from Albany, NY to the buffalo area in 3 days, that takes a day with a car today.
[url]http://www.lehigh.edu/~dmd1/art.html[/url]
[quote]Tarahumara running is based on endurance not speed. This fact is exemplified by their hunting practices. In order to catch such wild animals as deer, wild turkeys, and rabbits, the Tarahumara simply chase after the animal until the animal drops from exhaustion. Their hunting practices are widely known in Mexico and ranchers have been known to hire the indians to chase down wild horses . It is also said that a Tarahumara once ran six hundred miles in five days to deliver a very important message. Their endurance and conditioning has become k nown worldwide. Says Dale Groom, M.D., "Probably not since the days of the ancient Spartans has a people achieved such a high state of physical conditioning." (Lutz 21) This phenomenon has led to the inevitable question of, "Are the Tarahumara genetically special when it comes to running?" After many scientific tests, doctors have come to the conclusion that the Tarahumara's endurance is based more on conditioning than on heredity. Experts believe that there are two main causes for the Tarahumara's amazing endurance; physical conditioning and cultural importance. Diet also seems to play an important role in their running. The Tarahumara diet is practically meatless and consists mostly of complex carbohydrates. They eat approximately 10 percent proteins, 10 percent fat, and 80 percent complex carbohydrate.(Lutz 30) Balanced diet is believed to be one factor behind the Tarahumara's resiliency.
The Tarahumara take cooperative farming to the extreme and agriculture is a project for the entire village.(Welker 2) They consume livestock for meat but mostly use it as a source of fertilizer. The mainstay of the Tarahumara is corn but they also eat squash, beans and chili. They also utilize all plants of the Barranca del Cobre and have even been known to domesticate some wild plants as to make them more accessible for consumption. Pinole, a fine powder of toasted corn is the most common food. Meat is rarely eaten but on special occasions they eat goat, mice and fish. The Tarahumara method of fishing is very unusual. They throw sticks of dynamite into the water to stun the fish and then dive down to collect them. If they are hunting small game, they chase after it and then throw rocks a t it. The Tarahumara is very accurate throwers and practice from childhood. These extreme eating habits seem to contribute to lower pulse rates and blood pressure. These factors may allow them to cope with oxygen debt at high altitudes, such as a mile and a half above sea level. [/quote]
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40279271]
It's a shame this happens, really. Runners should get a quick check for any threatening conditions before they try to run a marathon.[/QUOTE]
Anybody who is even considering partaking in a strenuous physical activity should get a check up. Incidents like this aren't just constricted to running events.
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