[QUOTE](CNN) -- Syrian President Bashar al-Assad denied Sunday that government forces were behind the "outrageous" massacre of more than 100 civilians, including dozens of small children, in the town of Houla.
[B]"Truthfully, even monsters do not do what we saw, especially in the Houla massacre," he told lawmakers. "The criminal or criminals who committed this crime and others are not criminals for an hour or criminals for a day, they are constant criminals and are surely planning other crimes."[/B]
Speaking before the newly-elected People's Assembly on Sunday, al-Assad decried what he called the "terrorists" and "conspiracy" against Syria.
"At this time, we are facing a war from abroad," al-Assad said in his first public speech since January. "Dealing with it is different from dealing with people from inside."
His speech came a week after the U.N. Security Council condemned the Houla massacre, with members casting blame on government forces for the deaths.
Al-Assad's remarks stand in stark contrast to what the opposition and many world leaders have said for more than a year -- that al-Assad's forces, not "terrorists," are behind a sustained slaughter stemming from the regime's crackdown on dissidents.
As the president spoke, heavy shelling rained on the anti-government bastion of Homs, the opposition Local Coordination Committees of Syria said. Thirty-seven people were killed throughout Syria on Sunday, including five children, the group said.
Opposition activists also reported seeing a large military convoy of about 45 trucks carrying tanks, armored personnel carriers and soldiers heading toward Deir Ezzor during al-Assad's speech.
Al-Assad insisted "the battle is forced upon us," but promised amnesty for those who stop fighting immediately.
"I encourage all of those who are hesitant to drop their weapons at once, and the government will not seek revenge now or later," he said in his 70-minute speech. "We forgave others who stood against us in the past."
The president also touted what he called political reforms and denounced those he said were conspiring against Syria.
"Standing up against the conspiracy is not easy, but we will overcome the obstacles," al-Assad said.
The president's address came a day after U.N. special envoy Kofi Annan said Syria is "at a turning point" and that "the specter of all-out civil war, with a worrying sectarian dimension, grows by the day."
Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al Faisal said the Syrian regime is pushing for a sectarian crisis.
"The Syrian opposition lacks the means to defend itself, and the regime is getting weapons from everywhere. For a while now, we noticed that the regime has been trying to turn the crisis into a sectarian conflict," Al Faisal said Sunday.
He added that while Syria had agreed to Annan's peace plan, the regime has not implemented it. "The regime just wants to buy time," Al Faisal said.
Catherine Ashton, the EU foreign policy chief, said no efforts should be spared to stop the violence.
"We need to avoid a catastrophe. Violence and repression cannot be the solution. Any further militarization of the conflict will bring enormous suffering to Syria and risks having a dramatic impact on the region," she said.
As Annan's U.N.-backed peace plan continued to founder in Syria, Arab leaders signaled the need for more robust measures to end the violence there.
At a meeting in Doha, Qatar, more than a week after the Houla massacre sparked global outrage, Arab League Secretary-General Nabil el-Araby said "more audacious steps are needed" in Syria.
"We should have a timeline for the peace plan -- this is a must," el-Araby said. "The international community needs to take immediate action after the massacre in Houla and take all necessary measures in order to protect the Syrian civilians."
Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabor Al Thani said Annan's peace initiative should be placed under Chapter VII of the U.N. charter, Qatar's news agency reported. Such a move would allow the U.N. Security Council to take action that could include the use of military force.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Sunday that he had taken note of the Arab League leaders' suggestions, including requests to increase the number of U.N. observers and to set a time limit for the effort.
"All these are very important recommendations and I hope these will be discussed by the Security Council members. At this time, I would welcome the wider international discussions on the future course of action," he told reporters.
The crisis in Syria began nearly 15 months ago, when a tough government crackdown on protesters spiraled out of control and spawned a national anti-government uprising. The United Nations for months has said more than 9,000 people have died in Syria. But death counts from opposition groups range from more than 12,000 to more than 14,000. Tens of thousands have been displaced.
The opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said 33 civilians and 61 government forces were killed across Syria on Saturday, and two rebel soldiers died.
CNN cannot independently confirm reports of casualties or violence from Syria because the government restricts access to foreign journalists.
Over the border in the Lebanese city of Tripoli, fighting between pro- and anti-Syrian regime gunmen on Saturday left 12 dead and approximately 50 injured, according to the state-run National News Agency.
The clashes continued early Sunday morning, killing at least one person, NNA said. But hours later, residents said the situation in Tripoli was quiet.
The sectarian violence in Tripoli mirrors the tensions in Syria between Sunnis, who make up the majority of the Syrian opposition, and Alawites, who are dominant in al-Assad's government.
Annan made reference Saturday to such flare-ups in neighboring countries, after many Syrian civilians have fled to escape violence.[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/03/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/url]
His quote sounds like something from Doctor Seuss :v:
I was in another sub-forum and I saw the news headline as "Syrian president assa.." got me all excited.
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That's all I saw :v:
From the title i thought it was going to be "syrian president assassinated". I think most did.
THAT would have been interesting.
Is there actual solid proof that it WAS government forces that did this? I'm not saying Assad shouldn't go, but still I wouldn't be surprised to see opposition forces doing something like this and blaming it on the government to further their cause.
I mean, look at the Libyan rebels, they weren't exactly saints themselves. Who's to say these ones are all fighting for justice and freedom?
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36189626]Is there actual solid proof that it WAS government forces that did this? I'm not saying Assad shouldn't go, but still I wouldn't be surprised to see opposition forces doing something like this and blaming it on the government to further their cause.
I mean, look at the Libyan rebels, they weren't exactly saints themselves. Who's to say these ones are all fighting for justice and freedom?[/QUOTE]
The survivors say it was the government. I don't think after having your whole family massacred before your eyes you would lie like that.
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36189626]Is there actual solid proof that it WAS government forces that did this? I'm not saying Assad shouldn't go, but still I wouldn't be surprised to see opposition forces doing something like this and blaming it on the government to further their cause.
I mean, look at the Libyan rebels, they weren't exactly saints themselves. Who's to say these ones are all fighting for justice and freedom?[/QUOTE]
id be interested in seeing some credible sources too. or just anything that points it to assad himself
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36189649]The survivors say it was the government. I don't think after having your whole family massacred before your eyes you would lie like that.[/QUOTE]
They did the same thing in Libya when it first kicked off. They claimed airstrikes but there was 0 evidence of airstrikes on the buildings and the wounds on the bodies suggested something other than bombs.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36189649]The survivors say it was the government. I don't think after having your whole family massacred before your eyes you would lie like that.[/QUOTE]
I get that, but were they dressed in government uniforms? Did they outright say "We're from the government and we're gonna kill all you! Assad is responsible for these orders!"
What happened was absolutely horrible, and those responsible should be brought to justice, but I can't exactly trust the word of someone in that kind of situation. You can't exactly be very clear-headed when you're either hiding under a bed or running for your life as those around you are being slaughtered before your eyes.
[quote] "The criminal or criminals who committed this crime and others are not criminals for an hour or criminals for a day, they are constant criminals and are surely planning other crimes."[/quote]Well now they can't say they didn't warn us about their future attacks.
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36189699]I get that, but were they dressed in government uniforms? Did they outright say "We're from the government and we're gonna kill all you! Assad is responsible for these orders!"
What happened was absolutely horrible, and those responsible should be brought to justice, but I can't exactly trust the word of someone in that kind of situation. You can't exactly be very clear-headed when you're either hiding under a bed or running for your life as those around you are being slaughtered before your eyes.[/QUOTE]
Crimes like these rarely come straight from the top of the food chain.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36189750]Crimes like these rarely come straight from the top of the food chain.[/QUOTE]
In that case, would you blame Obama for the Afghan massacre which left 16 people dead? Like I said, I do not doubt that Assad has no legitmate claim to power at this point, but I have seen zero evidance his forces are responsible.
They have been committing atrocities yes, but both sides have. I do not doubt for a second their are other factions in play that are trying to start a civil war.
It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that an act such as the Houla massacre is a result of a propaganda campaign to help further the chances of foriegn action against the Syrian regime.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36189649]The survivors say it was the government. I don't think after having your whole family massacred before your eyes you would lie like that.[/QUOTE]
Depends on how it was carried out, they might not have known who it was, or were tricked into thinking it was the government.
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36189699]I get that, but were they dressed in government uniforms? Did they outright say "We're from the government and we're gonna kill all you! Assad is responsible for these orders!"
What happened was absolutely horrible, and those responsible should be brought to justice, but I can't exactly trust the word of someone in that kind of situation. You can't exactly be very clear-headed when you're either hiding under a bed or running for your life as those around you are being slaughtered before your eyes.[/QUOTE]
It was far too systematic and lasted too long to be anything but Assad's forces, if not at least done with his permission. With a military like Syria's being deployed all over the country, this would have been stopped. If they can show up to a protest and start shooting quicker than they can a massacre, then something is obviously wrong - and there was no attempt by anyone to intervene. Also the neighborhood was shelled. People don't really have tanks just lying around.
It doesn't seem likely at all that an entire neighborhood can be stormed with around 100 dead and an army like Assad's can wake up the next day like "Wait what? For realzies?"
[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36189626]Is there actual solid proof that it WAS government forces that did this? I'm not saying Assad shouldn't go, but still I wouldn't be surprised to see opposition forces doing something like this and blaming it on the government to further their cause.
I mean, look at the Libyan rebels, they weren't exactly saints themselves. Who's to say these ones are all fighting for justice and freedom?[/QUOTE]
The fact that the townspeople can identify some of the attackers maybe? Do some reading before you throw accusations around.
Assad: If only they had bent down and let me continue being a dictator... if only...
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