Dreadlocked student assaulted for ‘cultural appropriation’
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[video=youtube;jDlQ4H0Kdg8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8[/video]
[QUOTE][B]NOT even hairstyles are safe in ‘Safe Spaces’.[/B]
A university in the US is investigating an incident captured in a video posted online in which a black woman ‘assaulted’ a white student for wearing dreadlocks, the LA Times reports.
In a statement, the university said it was aware of the incident and campus police were called to the scene when it occurred. The statement said despite the title of the video, neither of the two involved were university employees.
“Further, no criminal charges have been pressed at this time to the university’s knowledge,” the statement said.
“San Francisco State University promotes the rights of the campus community to engage in free speech, but does not condone behaviour that impedes the safety or wellbeing of others.
“We are taking the matter seriously and will promptly and thoroughly investigate this incident through applicable university channels, including our campus student conduct procedures.”
[URL="http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/dreadlocked-student-assaulted-by-black-woman-for-cultural-appropriation/news-story/83bd60b43610f87adfbd8bc427eb79ec"]Source[/URL][/QUOTE]
Dreadlocks guys response:
[video=youtube;JQSJnE1dmG4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQSJnE1dmG4[/video]
[URL="http://goldengatexpress.org/2016/03/29/video-of-student-center-confrontation-fuels-cultural-appropriation-controversy/"]Source[/URL]
I guess that's the legal definition of assault, but grabbing an arm like that isn't really attacking someone, unless the video doesn't show all of it.
America. Land known for it's mixing of world culture where mixing world culture is now frowned upon by some people because they said so.
what's going on here? kid didn't yell for help or struggle or anything when she just pulled him back in gently. and they're both not students, so what are they doing on campus? who's taking the video? are they just standing on the steps and blocking the kid's way?
leaning towards staged.
Wow. You know what, I really hope the guy presses charges, and she gets arrested maybe even sued for damages.
[QUOTE=The Duke;50030969]America. Land known for it's mixing of world culture where mixing world culture is now frowned upon by some people because they said so.[/QUOTE]
Frowned upon by sheltered SJW special snowflakes maybe, not the entire US.
this is the equivalent of an Indian bitching about tribal tattoo's despite not having been alive before/during colonization, or Japanese bitching about Kanji tattoo's
or better yet, a Japanese man bitching about the "Ronin hairstyle AKA Man bun"
[t]http://s3.narvii.com/image/imf7mappmbqdywri3usvi2jw32iprqd2_hq.jpg[/t]
if you're really that uppity about "MUH CULTURE" then you should probably pee off
The only thing that I think should justify being made fun of is Rastafarian tattoo's and piercings
nothing is more funny than people who do that
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Even if we buy into cultural appropriation being a problem, which I actually do think it is, but only in some situations such as that aloha movie, however even if we want to call this appropriation, we have a problem, dreadlocks don't really belong to african culture.
From wikipedia, referring to Greeks, known for being white guys (and scroll down too! lots of cultures have them):
[quote]In Ancient Greece, kouros sculptures from the Archaic period depict men wearing dreadlocks,[2] while Spartan hoplites (generally described as fair-haired)[3] wore formal locks as part of their battle dress.[4] The style was worn by Ancient Christian Ascetics, and the Dervishes of Islam, among others.[5] Some of the very earliest Christians also may have worn this hairstyle; there are descriptions of James the Just, first Bishop of Jerusalem, who is said to have worn them to his ankles.[6][/quote]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks[/URL]
Target some actual cultural appropriation pls.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50030986]Wow. You know what, I really hope the guy presses charges, and she gets arrested maybe even sued for damages.[/QUOTE]
not like she really damaged anything, or assaulted him in any physically damaging way, she was just a giant twat
[QUOTE=J!NX;50031011]not like she really damaged anything, or assaulted him in any physically damaging way, she was just a giant twat[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure this counts as either assault or battery (that is if my government class is to be believed)
"Wait, where's Egypt? Tell me. Where is Egypt"
:toadleave:
[QUOTE=TheJoey;50030983]what's going on here? kid didn't yell for help or struggle or anything when she just pulled him back in gently. and they're both not students, so what are they doing on campus? who's taking the video? are they just standing on the steps and blocking the kid's way?
leaning towards staged.[/QUOTE]
Article doesn't say anything about them not being students, just not staff
the guy speaks like he's reciting slam poetry
Tumblr only.
I think PC culture is more proof that bachelors degrees don't actually demonstrate intelligence
This looks fake as hell, but it's pretty much guaranteed to get tons of media attention.
I honestly see no problem with people wanting to replicate certain elements of another culture. Great ideas are sometimes discovered in doing this. For example, Europeans wanted to replicate Chinese porcelain, so they tried to replicate the process with ingredients they had... In the end we did discover how to make hard-paste porcelain, BUT soft-paste porcelain was also discovered.
During the American Revolution, the British sometimes had found themselves outgunned at long ranges by American riflemen wielding the Kentucky Long Rifle, in turn they began development of their own rifled muskets which were heavily inspired by the designs of the Kentucky Long Rifle.
Several things can be stated has been "appropriated" or "taken" from other cultures, but realistically without doing things like this and sometimes going out of the norm of your own culture, humanities urges to better itself or learn from each other would be rather stagnant.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;50031051]This looks fake as hell, but it's pretty much guaranteed to get tons of media attention.[/QUOTE]
probably is really
[QUOTE=Toro;50030994]Frowned upon by sheltered SJW special snowflakes maybe, not the entire US.[/QUOTE]
I did say "some", not "all".
"Why are you filming this?"
"For everyone's safety."
*Attacks camera*
:quotes: Safe space :quotes:
I love this guy's way of talking. It makes ever word he says more valuable.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50030999]Even if we buy into cultural appropriation being a problem, which I [B]actually do think it is[/B], but only in some situations such as that aloha movie, however even if we want to call this appropriation, we have a problem, dreadlocks don't really belong to african culture[/QUOTE]
I disagree on principle. Culture is defined by its flexible and malleable nature - cultural appropriation just means taking things from another culture. it doesn't mean it's bad, and it doesn't mean its good. that's just the nature of ideas and survival. Every culture in existence is built off of stuff they've taken from others, ie appropriation.
and no, "Aloha" is not an account of that. that's just shitty casting, which is honestly the least of the problems with that movie.
Here's my little rant on PC culture
Once upon a time, there were real issues. Blacks were assaulted for trying to go to college, sometimes even murdered. National guardsmen had to walk [I]children[/I] into school because people were so vicious that they would murder a child for trying to play with white children. College campuses became the battleground for social justice: women's rights, black rights, gay rights, vietnam war protests, etc.
Then, everything started to get better. Blacks got voting rights, equal protection under the law, hiring quotas, etc. Women as well and gays are finally making progress! Everything is getting better!
At the same time, bachelor's degrees became more expected from employees and the government made it easy to go to college! The once-great agoras of intellectualism and dissent are now manufacturing plants for degrees.
There was also an intellectual shift; early-mid 20th century writers on political speech and freedom got replaced with mid-late 20th century french hacks called [I]The Postmodernists[/I]. These guys basically said that reality is a social construct. This means that there is no objective reality, no one true narrative or scope with which to view the world, only the narrative or scope you get to make up. Postmodernism, then, can be a synonym for "special-snowflake-ism". Suddenly being gay or black or a woman was no longer a biological fact, it was a [B]political identity[/B]. Identity politics is like when republicans hate democrats and democrats hate republicans, but instead of political parties, it's anybody not in your group. Since reality is socially constructed, anybody outside of your group or who disagrees with you is an affront to your own reality. Postmodernism can also, then, be a synonym for "narcissism", where you are the center of the universe and everything is an affront to your existence simply by existing.
(a funny philosophical side note; postmodernism, above all, stands in opposition to the philosophy and binary dialectics of GWF Hegel, who wrote about exactly the scenario in which one persons existence seems to negate the Other's ego, leading to (violent) conflict)
Because college professors are now teaching everyone that they're special snowflakes and they can form a political ideology based simply on their gender (or made up gender, for all the squirrel-kin out there), and because [B]any [/B]retard can go to college, [B]all[/B] the retards are going to college, saying "math is hard", studying humanities, learning about identity politics and saying "now it's okay to be a narcissist".
I'm in college; I'm transferring to one of the most left-win colleges in my state. [B]I hate college[/B]
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50031054]I honestly see no problem with people wanting to replicate certain elements of another culture. Great ideas are sometimes discovered in doing this. For example, Europeans wanted to replicate Chinese porcelain, so they tried to replicate the process with ingredients they had... In the end we did discover how to make hard-paste porcelain, BUT soft-paste porcelain was also discovered.
During the American Revolution, the British sometimes had found themselves outgunned at long ranges by American riflemen wielding the Kentucky Long Rifle, in turn they began development of their own rifled muskets which were heavily inspired by the designs of the Kentucky Long Rifle.
Several things can be stated has been "appropriated" or "taken" from other cultures, but realistically without doing things like this and sometimes going out of the norm of your own culture, humanities urges to better itself or learn from each other would be rather stagnant.[/QUOTE]
Or, you know, the English language, which this girl was using,is a cultural appropriation of and appropriation of an appropriation stretching back through the annals of time. Modern numbers? Appropriation again. Cultural appropriation (or rather people incorporating from other cultures) is only negative if it is used negatively against the culture it was taken or adopted from, which wearing a fucking hairstyle isnt at all.
[QUOTE=bdd458;50031112]I disagree on principle. Culture is defined by its flexible and malleable nature - cultural appropriation just means taking things from another culture. it doesn't mean it's bad, and it doesn't mean its good. that's just the nature of ideas and survival. Every culture in existence is built off of stuff they've taken from others, ie appropriation.
and no, "Aloha" is not an account of that. that's just shitty casting, which is honestly the least of the problems with that movie.[/QUOTE]
I never understood the cultural appropriation thing.
Sharing culture brings people together. Reinforcing stereotypes by telling people they can only abide by certain customs, dress, hair, behavior, etc. only exacerbates the problem and pushes people apart.
I like the part where she says "get your hands off of me" right after refusing to let go of the guy, while grinning. Then right after she's like "why are you filming this", i think you know why you snake.
Assuming this isn't fake, anyways.
cultural appropriation is up there with objectification, they're negatively loaded terms that attempt to declare normal elements of our society as bad without basis. Im sure there's a third example of these terms that are so popular with that crowd right now but i've forgotten it.
If you actually think cultural appropration is an issue then tbh you're only creating racism and cultural segregation, which, no matter how you put it, is a fucking bad thing
the more cultural mixing the better (Only up to the point where people aren't being douchebags about it)
I do think people should be more respectful and careful when using parts of other people's cultures, but people getting bent out of shape about dreadlocks has always confused me. Dreadlocks historically were what happened when you rolled your dirty-ass pre-Bronze Age hair into unkempt braids to prevent it matting into one huge mass. It's literally the most basic hairstyle, one step more complex not doing anything at all with your hair. Pretty much every Mediterranean culture has historically used it.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50030968]I guess that's the legal definition of assault, but grabbing an arm like that isn't really attacking someone, unless the video doesn't show all of it.[/QUOTE]
Well Assault is any action that makes a person feel their safety is at risk.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;50031029]"Wait, where's Egypt? Tell me. Where is Egypt"
:toadleave:[/QUOTE]
So because it's in Africa it must belong to her because all African culture is the same. Geeze this lady is pretty inconsiderate of African diversity.
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