• Is there an actual danger in turning off UAC?
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I'm on Win7 RTM, and I've put up with UAC since the beta days. I went from WinXP to 7 directly, so I don't know first hand how annoying UAC really was in Vista. Everytime I change or move something in Program Files, I get a prompt from UAC, and I'm tired of it. I have NOD32, which is a decent working antivirus and antispamware, plus it has it's own firewall. So my question is, is there any real danger in just turning off the annoying User Account Control?
No, I turned it off instantly and I never use any anti-virus crap. I'm completely fine. Also, no rating me dumb please. I usually do a virus scan right before I format, and none of them find a thing, meaning I never got one the whole unprotected time. Cheers for the dumbs, although I'm not sure what the point in them was.
Alright, thank you for the response.
UAC is just for casual computer users. People who barely know how to check their email.
[QUOTE=Dr Nick;16562888]UAC is just for casual computer users. People who barely know how to check their email.[/QUOTE] Or people like you who clearly have no clue what UAC is for.
[QUOTE=gparent;16563498]Or people like you who clearly have no clue what UAC is for.[/QUOTE] Go on
UAC is for people who don't know how to turn it off.
UAC prevents programs from modifying your system, it's there for a reason. So if you get a virus that wants to copy and paste itself all across your hard drive, UAC will pop up and let you know. It's more for advanced users as regular people will just click past it. Edit: It also prevents viruses from replacing high priority system files.
I'd prefer to leave it on but I hate it when there is 3 messages in a row and it takes about 5 seconds for each of them to pop up and on other computers sometimes the whole screen goes black just to show the dialogue box. It's stupid.
Well it really depends on how much security you want / need. Some people don't need more than a simple anti virus and don't mind if they get an occasional virus because they format.
[QUOTE=DementNeo;16562794]No, I turned it off instantly and I never use any anti-virus crap. I'm completely fine. Also, no rating me dumb please. I usually do a virus scan right before I format, and none of them find a thing, meaning I never got one the whole unprotected time. Cheers for the dumbs, although I'm not sure what the point in them was.[/QUOTE] Don't worry about ratings dude.
[QUOTE=gparent;16563498]Or people like you who clearly have no clue what UAC is for.[/QUOTE] I get along fine without it. Thanks though. Care to elaborate? Criticizing me and not telling what's wrong isn't very helpful.
[QUOTE=Pj The Dj;16563526]Go on[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dr Nick;16565715]I get along fine without it. Thanks though. Care to elaborate? Criticizing me and not telling what's wrong isn't very helpful.[/QUOTE] Well, your reply wasn't particularly helpful either. UAC actually protects, it doesn't just pop up a box for no reason. It gives programs privileges. Meaning, turning on UAC and running with no anti-virus would be safer than turning UAC off and running with no anti-virus, because it does provide protection. Turning it off basically turns your computer into Windows XP.
UAC doesn't protect your computer from viruses - it protects you from yourself. Basically in Windows 7 it only pops up asking if you're sure you want to do something related to moving important files or opening some special things like installers and such. They've dumbed it down a bit from Windows Vista; it used to ask you on almost every thing you did. I say leave it on, there's a lot of times where i accidentally do something and it'll tell me if i wanted to do that, and i can say no i didn't so i don't have to go through whatever. If you want to turn it off, try a lower level of it. In Windows 7 they gave you different levels of UAC that only warn you about certain things.
[QUOTE=nos217;16565577]Don't worry about ratings dude.[/QUOTE] I'm not worried, just confused.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;16568372]UAC doesn't protect your computer from viruses - it protects you from yourself. Basically in Windows 7 it only pops up asking if you're sure you want to do something related to moving important files or opening some special things like installers and such. They've dumbed it down a bit from Windows Vista; it used to ask you on almost every thing you did. I say leave it on, there's a lot of times where i accidentally do something and it'll tell me if i wanted to do that, and i can say no i didn't so i don't have to go through whatever. If you want to turn it off, try a lower level of it. In Windows 7 they gave you different levels of UAC that only warn you about certain things.[/QUOTE] uh no. It's the security level thing mentioned earlier. I had a keygen that after running and generating a key threw a UAC prompt for no raisin. It was trying to install some sort of malware and it blocked it.
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;16569072]uh no. It's the security level thing mentioned earlier. I had a keygen that after running and generating a key threw a UAC prompt for no raisin. It was trying to install some sort of malware and it blocked it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jimmy422;16568372]UAC doesn't protect your computer from viruses - it protects you from yourself. Basically in Windows 7 it only pops up asking if you're sure you want to do something related to moving important files or [b]opening some special things like installers and such[/b]. They've dumbed it down a bit from Windows Vista; it used to ask you on almost every thing you did. I say leave it on, there's a lot of times where i accidentally do something and it'll tell me if i wanted to do that, and i can say no i didn't so i don't have to go through whatever. If you want to turn it off, try a lower level of it. In Windows 7 they gave you different levels of UAC that only warn you about certain things.[/QUOTE] Silent or not it's still an installer. UAC is mostly for keeping you from doing stupid things, but it works for auto-installer viruses and such.
I use [url=http://www.tweak-uac.com/home/]this[/url], just suppresses the prompts without letting programs run with full privileges by default.
[QUOTE=Roast Beast;16572983]I use [url=http://www.tweak-uac.com/home/]this[/url], just suppresses the prompts without letting programs run with full privileges by default.[/QUOTE] Thank you, this is perfect.
[QUOTE=Jimmy422;16571779]Silent or not it's still an installer. UAC is mostly for keeping you from doing stupid things, but it works for auto-installer viruses and such.[/QUOTE] But it's not about you, it's about your PC.
If you disable UAC, all programs will be ran as admin. Which is bad.
[QUOTE=DementNeo;16569056]I'm not worried, just confused.[/QUOTE] Oh right.
[QUOTE=KrAzY_nikomo;16578946]If you disable UAC, all programs will be ran as admin. Which is bad.[/QUOTE] I think they auto-elevate if required, they don't run as admin unless they need to. But regardless it's just as bad as if they ran as admin.
[QUOTE=DementNeo;16562794]No, I turned it off instantly and I never use any anti-virus crap. I'm completely fine. Also, no rating me dumb please. I usually do a virus scan right before I format, and none of them find a thing, meaning I never got one the whole unprotected time. Cheers for the dumbs, although I'm not sure what the point in them was.[/QUOTE] Seriously, if pointless pictures and x's piss you off you should shoot yourself [editline]08:36AM[/editline] Also, i don't know but when i disbaled UAC on a 1 year old install it deleted my documents for some god forsaken reason
[QUOTE=gparent;16567786]Well, your reply wasn't particularly helpful either. UAC actually protects, it doesn't just pop up a box for no reason. It gives programs privileges. Meaning, turning on UAC and running with no anti-virus would be safer than turning UAC off and running with no anti-virus, because it does provide protection. Turning it off basically turns your computer into Windows XP.[/QUOTE] Yeah but not many of us are running without either.
It was a good idea, but it's really annoying. Every time you launch a program it pops up like 10 messages.
In Windows 7 it doesn't even ask if you edit system settings or something. Only if a program wants to edit protected files(C:\, everything in C;\Windows, everything in C:\Program Files, etc) or change system settings or registry keys.
[QUOTE=ryanmh;16599839]It was a good idea, but it's really annoying. Every time you launch a program it pops up like 10 messages.[/QUOTE] It asks me to authorize XFire every fucking time I start it, and autorun.exe on all of my fucking games.
UAC isn't as annoying in Windows 7, so I leave it on, but i had to turn it down 1 click only because i got the long-pausing black screen, and Microsoft told me to do that if i get the back screen... so i did. still works great, even though i don't really need it since it's not online. Just a stand-alone workstation without internet access.
The thing about UAC is that it's a fairly major change in how you use your PC. If people got used to it, or Windows had it all along, it wouldn't be such a big deal. Linux has had "UAC" in effect for ages, through sudo and su. Basically, when you get a UAC prompt, Windows is saying "can I sudo this program". When you disable it, you're just using your PC as root all the time.
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