"I Wish My Mother Had Aborted Me" - Polidicks

[quote]An abortion would have absolutely been better for my mother. An abortion would have made it more likely that she would finish high school and get a college education. At college in the late 1960s, it seems likely that she would have found feminism or psychology or something that would have helped her overcome her childhood trauma and pick better partners. She would have been better prepared when she had children. If nothing else, getting an abortion would have saved her from plunging into poverty. She likely would have stayed in the same socioeconomic strata as her parents and grandparents who were professors. I wish she had aborted me because I love her and want what is best for her. Abortion would have been a better option for me. If you believe what reproductive scientists tell us, that I was nothing more than a conglomeration of cells, then there was nothing lost. I could have experienced no consciousness or pain. But even if you discount science and believe that I had consciousness and could experience pain at six gestational weeks, I would chose the brief pain or fear of an abortion over the decades of suffering I endured.[/quote] [url=http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-and-politics/details/2012-08-i-wish-my-mother-had-aborted-me]Source.[/url] An interesting view on abortion and a great, albeit depressing, read. [video=youtube;kbsHpjyjLZc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbsHpjyjLZc[/video]

Very insightful. Makes you really think.

That was a good read. I wish my mother would never had even tried to have children.

Would i have been me if she waited? And in what sense? Would i be conscious, but have a different personality? Or would a totally different conscious being be her kid? Being aborted is nothing to wish for. Either you get aborted or you don't. But don't regret.

[QUOTE=Bomimo;37351003]Would i have been me if she waited? And in what sense? Would i be conscious, but have a different personality? Or would a totally different conscious being be her kid? Being aborted is nothing to wish for. Either you get aborted or you don't. But don't regret.[/QUOTE] dont tell me not to hate my life

Ask the mom if she wanted to get an abortion, 9 times out of 10 they will say no as they love their kids. Not saying abortion is a terrible thing, but regardless it is the mother's choice and nobody else has a say in it including the kid.

Fuck it, I'm being stupid. I'm not trying to criminalize abortion, I was trying to say that abortion never occurs when something good happens.

[QUOTE=-xxsetshotxx-;37351152]Whether or not you're pro-choice, abortion isn't really something that you'd want to happen. It'd be better to wish that his mother had done something else, like not get plugged without a glove.[/QUOTE] People make mistakes, kids are dumb, rape.

[QUOTE=-xxsetshotxx-;37351152]Whether or not you're pro-choice, abortion isn't really something that you'd want to happen. It'd be better to wish that his mother had done something else, like not get plugged without a glove.[/QUOTE] Well, I think she's not saying abortion is a good choice, but it would have been a [i]better[/i] choice instead.

[QUOTE=DoctorSalt;37351320]Well, I think she's not saying abortion is a good choice, but it would have been a [i]better[/i] choice instead.[/QUOTE] Exactly, people should only have children when they are ready and capable of caring for them. Sadly this is stigmatised to a point.

I have mixed feelings on abortion. My mom almost considered it and just the thought that I would've been aborted drives me far away from it being a good thing.

[QUOTE=-xxsetshotxx-;37351152]Whether or not you're pro-choice, abortion isn't really something that you'd want to happen. It'd be better to wish that his mother had done something else, like not get plugged without a glove.[/QUOTE] Condom could have broke.

[QUOTE=The golden;37351396]Oh the glorious ignorance! [editline]22nd August 2012[/editline] Thinking abortion is bad because you COULD have been aborted is quite selfish.[/QUOTE] What? Ok, there's a line on selfishness and not existing. My family made it and now I live a happy life with a very good relationship with my parents. It's not selfish for wanting to exist, I'm sorry, not at all. Also I said I have mixed feeling on it so its hard for me to accept it as a liable use.

[QUOTE=The golden;37351396] Thinking abortion is bad because you COULD have been aborted is quite selfish.[/QUOTE] Well, it's kind of an opinion forming thing. The thought that something could have stopped you from living, and almost did, is pretty hard to get past.

I think that writer is wrong on one thing, she can not KNOW that her mom would have been better off. In fact, considering the trainwreck that her mom's life was, it's almost guaranteed that kid or no kid she was going to have a screwed up life. It's not as if the one thing that spoiled everything for her was getting pregnant.

[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;37351474]Well, it's kind of an opinion forming thing. The thought that something could have stopped you from living, and almost did, is pretty hard to get past.[/QUOTE] He could also not exist if his mum had a headache the night he was going to be conceived or the car broke down earlier and put her in a bad mood. Everyone who is born in the world won a lottery with the odds heavily stacked against them, what difference does one more round of elimination make? Even if he was aborted, it is not like he would ever know. If you don't like abortion because it created a chance that you wouldn't exist then you might as well dislike everything that could have interfered with the sperm that made you from winning it's race.

Same for me... If my mother never met my father, she wouldn't have problems, that she does now, and she would have college.

[QUOTE=squids_eye;37351728]He could also not exist if his mum had a headache the night he was going to be conceived or the car broke down earlier and put her in a bad mood. Everyone who is born in the world won a lottery with the odds heavily stacked against them, what difference does one more round of elimination make? Even if he was aborted, it is not like he would ever know. If you don't like abortion because it created a chance that you wouldn't exist then you might as well dislike everything that could have interfered with the sperm that made you from winning it's race.[/QUOTE] The logic behind this is really non-existent. I'm really trying to grasp it so I don't feel like I forgot something, but it's not there. That's the worst argument FOR abortion I've heard in a while. You really need to think about it. I mean, come on. There's a difference between accidents and purpose. Its almost like asking if I would kill myself before I have chance to live out my life. I can't have a straight thought on abortion.

[QUOTE=choco cookie;37351876]The logic behind this is really non-existent. I'm really trying to grasp it so I don't feel like I forgot something, but it's not there. That's the worst argument FOR abortion I've heard in a while. You really need to think about it. I mean, come on. There's a difference between accidents and purpose. Its almost like asking if I would kill myself before I have chance to live out my life. I can't have a straight thought on abortion.[/QUOTE] So just because you made it out happy, it means everyone else will too?

I unno, I mean, my parents wanted to have kids so that question can't really be raised for me.

Good thing my mom was married, settled and intending.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;37351921]So just because you made it out happy, it means everyone else ever will too?[/QUOTE] Like I keep saying I have mixed feelings on it. Never did I say I was against it. And please, I didn't say that either.

[QUOTE=choco cookie;37351876]The logic behind this is really non-existent. I'm really trying to grasp it so I don't feel like I forgot something, but it's not there. That's the worst argument FOR abortion I've heard in a while. You really need to think about it. I mean, come on. There's a difference between accidents and purpose. Its almost like asking if I would kill myself before I have chance to live out my life. I can't have a straight thought on abortion.[/QUOTE] The difference between doing it accidentally and doing it on purpose is pretty redundant. What if your Mum had just taken the morning after pill? The outcome would be the same as an abortion but it isn't considered some massive issue. It is essentially the same with all contraception. Do you hate condoms because your Dad could have worn one?

I read a study that either way women have a higher chance of mental issues if they accidentally become pregnant. Having or aborting the child makes no difference.

I don't exactly wish I was aborted since I've had a pretty stable life, I just WISH my father had not had so many children (7 children from 3 different women, maybe more, I'm not even sure) because it's been so fucking economically tasking for everyone. (mind you I was the 4th, so if he had stayed with his first wife I wouldn't exist)

[QUOTE=squids_eye;37352054]The difference between doing it accidentally and doing it on purpose is pretty redundant. What if your Mum had just taken the morning after pill? The outcome would be the same as an abortion but it isn't considered some massive issue. It is essentially the same with all contraception. Do you hate condoms because your Dad could have worn one?[/QUOTE] Ok, I'm going stop this before it gets too far. When someone says they have mixed feelings that means they were emotionally swayed on an opinion and that they try not to judge the opinion on their emotions, but it is difficult. Also, there's no redundancy, only in your debating skills. Such as I never stated I was against it. Or how you try to say there's no difference in accidents and purposefulness in the subject of this matter. Or also like you say there's no difference in abortion and some morning after pill. And the last jab. Really?

Why would you wish to not exist? Non-existence is unfathomably terrifying to me. I mean, I agree with abortion and it's uses, but the chances of being born and existing are fucking astronomical. You might have been born into a fucking shitty life, but at least you are experiencing the universe. Always look on the bright side of life. (dododododododo) Unless you believe in an afterlife and all of that philosophy goes down the shitter.

This isn't news.

wow i knew facepunch was pretty sad but like half of these posts are talking about never wanting to be born

[QUOTE=BenJammin';37352254]Why would you wish to not exist? Non-existence is unfathomably terrifying to me. I mean, I agree with abortion and it's uses, but the chances of being born and existing are fucking astronomical. You might have been born into a fucking shitty life, but at least you are experiencing the universe. Always look on the bright side of life. (dododododododo) Unless you believe in an afterlife and all of that philosophy goes down the shitter.[/QUOTE] but if you never actually come to existence, then existence doesn't concern you at all because you're not even a thing. The only reason you find nonexistence terrifying is because you exist, you can't miss out on existance and life if you don't exist in the first place, therefore existance it's not really a thing you can feel lucky that it happened to you because there is no you before it. At least that's what I think..