So guys i was wondering about your expirience with this :P i spent a whole week not doing anything else then rolling on molly smoking bong every 2-5mins and every hit was like a fallback to the molly and this wave of pleasurness and love and the tweak in your jaw after taking that hit it was all magical we did this with some friends and one night we had shrooms too srs that was some of the best trips EVER
Well as much fun as that would be and all I myself wouldn't want the depression that would follow or the amount of your brain that possibly might be a little fried. But as long as you had fun, I guess that's all that matters right?
you should try mdma + bongs + punctuation and sentence structure.
bong is not a drug. also enjoy serotonin depletion.
well with bong i mean weed actually hash..
and the depression that followed well it was kinda sad but everyone was depressed it was on a festival and we had lived with our closest friends for a week, so ye home seemed boring and lonely... And it was also first time i did molly and indeed my brain was fried but hell we had fun!
I thought this was going to be a thread about smoking molly through a bong. I almost went apeshit.
why does it matter if you were smoking from a bong
why not make this a MDMA + Weed thread?
Have fun with the H2O2 in your brain aka bleach.
Your memory is going to be shot probably permenantly, you'd better pray to god you got like speed or meth instead on molly.
[QUOTE=jakedog;37533355]Have fun with the H2O2 in your brain aka bleach.
Your memory is going to be shot probably permenantly, you'd better pray to god you got like speed or meth instead on molly.[/QUOTE]
He rolled and smoked bongs.
not smoked mdma out of a bong.
Rolling for more than like 12 hours straight literally forms bleach in your brain. Specifically in the parts of your brain where you store memories.
I rolled two days straight months ago, my memory has been really off ever since.
[QUOTE]After MDMA depletes serotonin, the reuptake transporters are left vacant and exposed. When this happens, dopamine enters the transporter and gets taken up into the serotonin axon, where it isn't supposed to be. Studies have shown that dopamine itself is toxic to serotonin cells. But if that weren't enough, MAO comes along and breaks it down into hydrogen peroxide, which is also toxic to the cell. (Yes, the same hydrogen peroxide they put in hair bleach!) The hydrogen peroxide then "oxidizes" certain parts of the cell which don't normally get oxidized ("oxidize," as used here, basically means to break down with oxygen). Researchers sometimes refer to this as oxidative stress, and a number of studies have looked at anti-oxidants like Vitamin-C as a possible agent to prevent MDMA's neurotoxicity (see our section about pre-loading on our neurotoxicity page for more info on this).
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[url]http://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow[/url]
Yeah it's really bad for your brain to roll that much.
Please do more research before doing another drug for your first time, or even before doing molly again.
[QUOTE=jakedog;37533423]Rolling for more than like 12 hours straight literally forms bleach in your brain. Specifically in the parts of your brain where you store memories.
I rolled two days straight months ago, my memory has been really off ever since.
[url]http://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow[/url][/QUOTE]
Things like this are why I stick to weed mostly, drugs have too shitty of downsides.
[QUOTE=soupman345-2;37534024]Things like this are why I stick to weed mostly, drugs have too shitty of downsides.[/QUOTE]
I gotta agree, Yes to everyone who rated disagree or dumb, there are safe ways to do all those drugs, but some like to just play it safe, I mean if you're an adult, weed is nearly completely if not 100% harmless, especially not in excess, but even in excess.
its not completely if not 100 percent harmless
whenever i read the thread title, i imagine loading up a bowl of mdma and just torching the fuck out of it, hahaha.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37535242]its not completely if not 100 percent harmless[/QUOTE]
What does it do to the average human being, I know there are special cases with people with heart problems, but what else does it do other than impair memory and make you a bit slow on the uptake?
This was a serious question by the way, I wasn't trying to sound like an ass, I'm genuinely curious.
[QUOTE=zach1193;37535534]What does it do to the average human being, I know there are special cases with people with heart problems, but what else does it do other than impair memory and make you a bit slow on the uptake?
This was a serious question by the way, I wasn't trying to sound like an ass, I'm genuinely curious.[/QUOTE]
Apparently it can bring out dormant mental problems you have if you happen to have them, but it effects everyone differently. In excess I can feel it killing my personality slowly, as the months go by I catch myself talking significantly more monotone and find it increasingly difficult to give a shit about what anyone is saying.
But for me, just noticing these changes is enough for me to sort myself out, other people don't.
IT makes you more succeptible to lung infections and lowers your IQ, not as much if you only started after you are 18 but it still does. It also inhibits rem sleep and it lowers your reaction speeds.
an average of 8 points difference in heavy users that started while their brain is still developing, but i'm gonna bet the ones with the highest deterioration also partook in lots of drinking
incoming rant:
tbh, personally I feel the USA has it right with the legal drinking age of 21, as much as anyone may disagree with me, in terms of brain development and all that it makes a truckload more sense to have 21 as the drinking age as opposed to 18.
And fuck that when you're 18 you're an adult bullshit, seriously, I know absolutely no one that is actually what i'd consider an "adult" when they're 18 or even 19, I know it doesn't really "Feel" different to be an adult, but there is huge differences in behavior between an 18 year old and a 25 year old simply because of real world experience
all that being said, it's still a personal choice as to what we use, I'm willing to take the iq drop because honestly, being a genius is something that never really interested me, I had an iq of 137 when I did a test when I was 13 or so and got chucked into the Academically talented program, those assholes ruined school for me because all I ever wanted was to be treated like a regular kid, was so sick of being the nerd in primary school, that made me really pessimistic about even going to school in high school, then they kept pushing me to do the hardest shit when I really had no interest in it, I never got to learn about the shit I actually wanted to learn and they fucked me over by pressuring me to do shit I didn't want to do
that's why I smoke weed and study shit online these days, I may be losing IQ but i'm gaining knowledge in a vast range of subjects, so it's not like i'm getting stupider (still stand by iq does not denote intelligence/effectiveness of a person all together), it's just a shame there aren't really great resources for the sort of stuff I really really want to study online... honestly couldn't give two shits about high school anymore, well, except for graduating and biology because we're learning about DNA ATM and that shit is the mad notes, biochem kicks ass but we don't do quite enough of it IMO
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37535896]IT makes you more succeptible to lung infections and lowers your IQ, not as much if you only started after you are 18 but it still does. It also inhibits rem sleep and it lowers your reaction speeds.[/QUOTE]
I read about the IQ dropping, and I don't know if that's true or not I'm a bit skeptical, but the rest makes sense.
Well the study was the best study done on the effect on IQ ever so Its pretty viable
there's a definite correlation, and I really wouldn't be surprised if weed was the causation
I mean, you are essentially taking a natural reward system and activating it by introducing chemicals, if it's always on and your brain doesn't get a chance to be sober no shit it's going to impede in development, you're changing the homeostatic state of your developing brain
i mean if you soaked your brain in water while it was developing you'd expect it to develop differently as well, same applies to having chemicals in your brain that aren't supposed to be there, especially if it's all the time (heavy use)
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37536073]Well the study was the best study done on the effect on IQ ever so Its pretty viable[/QUOTE]
But I don't think they asked the users if they did any other drugs such as alcohol like inzalonus said.
I'm not disagreeing, and even if it were true, I'll take some loss in IQ over depression and stress and not eating.
They actually did and took other drugs into consideration
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;37536104]They actually did and took other drugs into consideration[/QUOTE]
hmm, well in that case, I guess if you care about your IQ don't smoke lots of weed.
[QUOTE=Inzalonus;37536056]an average of 8 points difference in heavy users that started while their brain is still developing, but i'm gonna bet the ones with the highest deterioration also partook in lots of drinking
incoming rant:
tbh, personally I feel the USA has it right with the legal drinking age of 21, as much as anyone may disagree with me, in terms of brain development and all that it makes a truckload more sense to have 21 as the drinking age as opposed to 18.
And fuck that when you're 18 you're an adult bullshit, seriously, I know absolutely no one that is actually what i'd consider an "adult" when they're 18 or even 19, I know it doesn't really "Feel" different to be an adult, but there is huge differences in behavior between an 18 year old and a 25 year old simply because of real world experience
all that being said, it's still a personal choice as to what we use, I'm willing to take the iq drop because honestly, being a genius is something that never really interested me, I had an iq of 137 when I did a test when I was 13 or so and got chucked into the Academically talented program, those assholes ruined school for me because all I ever wanted was to be treated like a regular kid, was so sick of being the nerd in primary school, that made me really pessimistic about even going to school in high school, then they kept pushing me to do the hardest shit when I really had no interest in it, I never got to learn about the shit I actually wanted to learn and they fucked me over by pressuring me to do shit I didn't want to do
that's why I smoke weed and study shit online these days, I may be losing IQ but i'm gaining knowledge in a vast range of subjects, so it's not like i'm getting stupider (still stand by iq does not denote intelligence/effectiveness of a person all together), it's just a shame there aren't really great resources for the sort of stuff I really really want to study online... honestly couldn't give two shits about high school anymore, well, except for graduating and biology because we're learning about DNA ATM and that shit is the mad notes, biochem kicks ass but we don't do quite enough of it IMO[/QUOTE]
But bro last year of highschool is so useful, people I know who slacked off in it kicked themselves when they started university because you always end up doing similar stuff to high school in the first year.
[editline]4th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=zach1193;37536123]hmm, well in that case, I guess if you care about your IQ don't smoke lots of weed.[/QUOTE]
Yea it was for regular use only 4+ times a week
wasn't their population of study something really small like under 60 people though? while it may be the best study done, I still question the validity of it to some degree, even if that's just me being optimistic
it was 1000 people
how'd I miss that?
was probably high when I glossed over the article I read about it
[QUOTE=Inzalonus;37536155]how'd I miss that?
was probably high when I glossed over the article I read about it[/QUOTE]
Nah man, it's your IQ dropping :v:
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