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I've seen people nominating other people for dumbest posts of 2011 and I thought I'd make (most likely a bad) decision to create a thread where we can show morons to the rest of Facepunch.
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[B]znk666, for his outstanding use of words here:[/B]
[QUOTE=znk666;33317182]There's no such thing as extremists in religion[/QUOTE]
[B]LUHG!, for his brilliant post here: [/B]
[QUOTE=LUHG!;31359643]Half wish they got attacked when that happened.
Might learn to stop fucking around when at war.
Idiots.[/QUOTE]
[B]God's Pimp Hand for this post in the nomination thread:[/B]
[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;33322852]
[QUOTE=LUHG!;31359643]Half wish they got attacked when that happened.
Might learn to stop fucking around when at war.
Idiots.[/QUOTE]
[I]This?[/I]
This is what you want to nominate for dumbest post of 2011?
While I'll admit that it was a bit excessive for LUHG to say that he wished the soldiers depicted in the video got attacked, he's absolutely right in saying that you should never mess around during times of war, especially when doing so causes one of your peers to be rendered absolutely immobile.
(It also doesn't help that the video has some racial undertones to it.)[/QUOTE]
[B]A fantastic post from Purple Robot[/B]
[QUOTE=Purple Robot;33323496]Honestly, The world would be better without these dumb protesters, They're getting food somehow. Someones helping them. They're taking drugs, and they say they're going to do it for 3 more years. Why not just kill them off, NYPD?[/QUOTE]
[B]rosar0980 for this, magical post:[/B]
[quote=rosar0980;31478746]Fossil fuels will most likely not ever run out. The cycle that creates them is always starting and stopping. This means that fossil fuels are always being created. Therefore, by logical thinking, they will always renew themselves. But, what the hell am I saying? This makes way too much sense for anyone.[/quote]
[B]Patroclus Rex for his insightful view into the world of relationships[/B]
[QUOTE=Patroclus Rex;32360442]Besides, you can't be raped by your husband, that defeats the point of marriage.[/QUOTE]
[B]JimDaAthiest for his knowledge of the source engine (Please read the entire thread, this is personally my favourite, next to LUHG!)[/B]
[QUOTE=JimDaAthiest;31132828]Well, they can be made low poly. When I watch Avatar, or other 3d movies with forests, do I lag? Nope. Why should this lag then?
I have seen huge city maps too, I don't lag there.[/QUOTE]
[B]asteroidrules for, oh, this gold comment[/B]
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33338565]He dragged away a guy who threatened to burn the city down, how is that not serving and protecting?
Occupy Wallstreet:
33% communists
33% fascists
33% anarchists
1% good right thinking Americans.[/QUOTE]
[B]Certified for the Majority of Posts in This Thread:[/B]
[QUOTE=certified;33373258]Also, just my personal opinion here:
Gender identity disorder should probably be treated with mental/psychotherapy, rather than rewarding the behavior. I'm not saying with extremist shit (Cross Creek HNNNNNnnnng) to stop it, but a normal therapy regiment like drug addicted people go on to break addictions.[/QUOTE]
[B]thenecronlord for his modern outlook on games[/B]
[quote=thenecronlord;30160959]its going to be called Subterrainia
Subterrainia will be a fps horror survival/shooter that takes place in a part of the world after a viral out break and causes an zombie Apocalypse. you play as an un-named marine Sargent, and the game will go from a huge city, to the forests that surrounds the city, through hoped to be forgotten mine shafts, to an underground lab where the virus started.
I want the game to unfold from normal military firefighting, overrun zombie suburb raiding, and long range sniper duels.
also a cool effect, the virus will start out small and the city will have no damage to it. Then later in the game, the city will be reduced to crumbling bindings and ruined houses.
chapters 1-3 will take place with your squad moving through the city toward the source of the "mysterious and hazardous occurrences"
chapters 4-5 will take place underground, (maybe service tunnels im not sure) expect close fights
chapters 6-7 will have you cross the "red forests" toward the lab
chapters 8-9 will take place in the mines
chapters 10-11 will take place in the lab
the game will be $20 when i finish and ill release demos here and their.
i plan on releasing add-ons like multiplayer and game expansions
the game was inspired by fallout, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., cod WAW, metro 2033, and 2 stories i wrote as below.
so facepunch does it spund good or what.
bonus: story time!
ps: it started as a story called "my gasmask" and evolved from their any way, heres parts 1 and 2
My gasmask part 1
As I crept carefully through the rotting ruins of the apartment building, I was in desperate need of food. A survivor can only last a while before canned beans start tasting like stale air and death. Before I can go on I must tell you it wasn't always like this, where every day is a struggle angst not only hunger, fear, radiation poisoning, and worst of all mutated animals. But mutants are not my only concern. I have to make sure that I find clean water, and safe shelter, but bandits, raiders, and cannibals make life a living hell for me. Ever since the bombs fell, I've been forced to live on what ever I can find. Scavenging is not only dangerous but it is a necessity to my survival.I had managed to find a crashed military truck one day, on the side of the road. I approached the truck hesitantly, I was not to sure what I'd find because at the time had only a t-shirt and pair of jeans and my backpack on me, and armed with only a baseball bat with a few nails I managed to drill into it. I examined the truck with all the concentration I could manage. the cargo of the truck was best thing I found since the six pack of coca-cola I found awhile back. What I found was an box of medical supplies( first aid kits, painkillers, adrenalin shots, bandages, ect) a field radio every once Ina while I'd hear signals from "safe havens with food and medical supplies" I'd knew it wasn't true, no ware was safe. Any way I also found some body armor( Kevlar vests), crates full of army rations, but oh man the weapons I managed to find grenades, an m14 (simi-auto rifle), and a glock 18. But best of all a gas mask with tons of filters. This is how I manage to live and not die from poisonous gasses each day. Any how, I was in the building I made my self to the roof. when I reached the stairwell the door creaked open and I was engulfed in darkness. I switched on my flashlight a shadow moved quickly up the stairs. Instantly I groaned " oh come on I wont hurt you, If you dount attack first." silence "OK have it your way." I replied to the darkness. I started up the stairs, rifle drawn. when I got up and out I moved over to the side and pulled out my binoculars, and scanned the horizon. nothing but thick forests to the west, ruined, heavily damaged highway to the south( The way I came), deserted or so it seemed to be military base to the north. And a small town to the east. well I guess that's gonna be a tough decision to make. At that moment the "shadowy" figure broke through the door it was a zombifyed mutated bandit, or as I called them "zombandits" for loss of words. I knew it was gonna be easy as I raised my rifle and and fired at its head.It fell, I walked over I managed to find some anti-rad pills, and a pistol clip. "Not the best loot ever but it'll do." I quickly rolled the corpse off the roof. (dount ask why) and set up camp I would stay here for the night.
part 2
MY GAS MASK PART 2
When I awoke in the morning, I checked the town to the east. It was connected to a small road with a stopped convoy of 3 trucks and 2 Humvees. before I left I took an Army food ration out of my backpack and ate it quickly. After my "breakfast" I headed down the stairs and got out of the apartment. I went over to the gas station across the street. I had gone in their before, only to check if their was any muskrats( giant mutated rats that give off a "musky" smell that you could smell from miles away). I went over to the ruined beverage holders. Most of the soda bottles or energy drinks where eater half full, spoiled, or empty. Except for a few bottles of coca-cola and root-beer, I happily took a bottle of root-beer and opened the cap with my knife. I put the bottle cap(caps for short) into my little pouch that was hanging on to my side. Then over to the counter top, a few packs of bubble gum and empty snickers wrappers littered the counter. I grabbed one pack of gum and headed off. About two or three miles from the town I found the stopped "convoy" of vehicles, no one was in site, or so it appeared, a bullet grazed my head and I pulled out my m-14. "Hey! who shot at me!" I demanded Ina Fearsome tone. "That depends on who you are!" a week, but powerful voice grunted back, "I'm not a bandit, or a raider I'm a simple scavenger looking to find my way to an unknown place in this beautiful word of dirt." I replied. "Well then," replied the voice,"Come over to the 2nd Humvee, with your rifle at your side!" ordered the voice. I moved over to the 2nd Humvee as instructed. The person I met was a man, dressed in woodland camo, and looked like a solder. "As you can concur. I'm in a bit of trouble." the man said. "what kind of trouble?" I asked "well," he replied "This was a supply run going to our frontline HQ." stated the marine. " Unfortunately we were attacked by a large group of tree stalkers." ( tree stalkers are mutated humans exposed to an amount of radiation casing them to mutate into fast, deadly, horrifying, savage killers) "I have some supplies in my backpack how bad are hurt?" I asked. "uhh, this bad." he replied, and lifted his arm reveling a deep gash that was still bleeding. I quickly opened my pack. grabbed some anti-biotics and gave them to him. Then I bandaged the wound tightly to stop as much bleeding as I could allow it to. We then started up the bloody Humvee and drove down the road. I was driving and the marine was on the mounted 50. cal machine gun on top of the Humvee . I handed him a coca-cola, he thanked me and got back to the Humvee gun. And with that we drove to the town, toward the military field HQ. My adventure had just begun, the adventure of me, and my gasmask
As you can tell it was heavily biased on fallout and metro with a little bit of S,T.A.L.K.E.R. thrown in to the mix
hope y'all in joyed the story[/quote]
[B]HONOURABLE MENTIONS:[/B]
[B]Pepin for:[url="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1125010"]Why You Should Be In Favor Of No Minimum Wage[/url][/B]
Oh man, the second one got me.
[B]LUHG!, for his brilliant post here: [/B] [highlight]Agree/Disagree for yes/no[/highlight]
[QUOTE=LUHG!;31359643]Half wish they got attacked when that happened.
Might learn to stop fucking around when at war.
Idiots.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1111235?p=31359643&viewfull=1#post31359643[/url]
Time to lurk around
[B]znk666, for his outstanding use of words here:[/B] [highlight]Funny/Winner for yes/no[/highlight]
[QUOTE=znk666;33317182]There's no such thing as extremists in religion[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1141079?p=33317182&viewfull=1#post33317182[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;33321089]I'm confused, why isn't it Agree/Disagree for yes/no in all of them? We're just voting on them to get them into preliminaries, isn't it?[/QUOTE]
Copied and pasted wrong, meant to re-edit.
My apologies.
Quote the posts you are linking. Much easier to see and rate.
I nominate all of Fast Threads.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;33321206]I nominate all of Fast Threads.[/QUOTE] To be precise, LMAO pics.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1135153?p=33003732&viewfull=1#post33003732[/url]
not exactly quoteable
I need to find a post about claiming that Bronies has the best community ever.
[url="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1125010"]Why You Should Be In Favor Of No Minimum Wage[/url]
[QUOTE=Pepin;32270488][B]Intro[/B]
I'll start this off with a fictional scenario. There are only two mining companies in South Africa, one that pays well above minimum wage: Company A; and the other that pays minimum wage: Company B. Both companies are pretty equal in performance and both of course want to come out ahead. Although Company B has managed to compete with Company A by hiring low skilled labor, Company B does not really have any options to gain an edge that Company A would not have. Company A does not have the choice of cutting its workers salaries as its workers are highly skilled and demanding, but Company A does have one trick up their sleeve... To raise the minimum wage.
What effect would this have? Simple, it would force Company B to pay their employees a higher wage which in turn would raise the prices of Company B's product making them less competitive. It would have no ill effects on Company A because everyone within Company A makes well above the minimum wage. In effect, Company B will eventually be put out of business, and these low skilled workers will be out of a job.
To some this might some like some contrived scenario, yet it has been the tool of many foreign unions and businesses in African nations. Most of these unions and businesses have been made up of white racists and it has been used quit effectively to eliminate competition from local business. Over the years this has resulted in a large distrust in western entrepreneurs in many African countries, and large amounts of protective legislation has been made against foreign business.
[B]Intention Does Not Matter[/B]
Certainly nobody would argue the the intention of a piece of legislation somehow affects its total outcome. You could make an argument as to how the law is interpreted, but as far as the minimum wage law goes, there is only one interpretation. If the opening example appears to be true and backed up in practice, why would it differ when backed by people with good intentions?
The situation in Africa is very similar here in America, high skilled workers who are not affected by the minimum wage are lobbying for a higher minimum wage. The only difference is that these lobbyist are not racist and are portrayed to care about the lower class worker. Yet regardless if they sincerely care, their support of the minimum wage will have the same negative effects it does in Africa. Worse are the groups that lobby in the US that lobby to raise the minimum wage in third world countries. Just like in the intro, competing unions and businesses are the ones lobbying for this, so it really has to be called into question as to whether they really care about the third world nation, or if they'd rather just eliminate their competition.
Consider the reasons why a third party supports a cause that does not affect them. Take Honey Nut Cheerios raising breast cancer awareness. Logically, this makes little sense. But to most anyone, their purpose is clear: to give the company a good name and to raise awareness of breast cancer. Some might consider this exploitation in that the company is trying to make money as a sponsor of breast cancer awareness, but this should really only be an issue if it is at someone's loss, which it is not. Everyone gains, the company gets a good reputation with increased sales and the public becomes more aware of breast cancer. As far as Unions and other groups advocating raising the minimum wage, it is a similar situation, except with their success, it is at a loss to those who now can't compete, just like the example in the intro.
[B]Who Does Minimum Wage Harm Most?[/B]
It harms the low class worker with few or no skills. I feel as though I should qualify that with more specific groups. Teenagers are low skilled workers for obvious reasons, they have low skills and no work experience. Low skilled workers are comprised of high school drop outs, illegal immigrants, the handicapped, and the elderly. Certainly there are exception to this, there may be some high school drop outs who are very successful. But in general there is no reason to believe an individual with few or no skills is likely to be successful.
A worker in some way can be thought of an investment, and their resume can be though of their risk. A worker with a good resume shows low risk. It is a safe investment because the worker is pretty much guaranteed to make a profit. A worker with an alright resume may be of moderate risk, they aren't likely to lose you money, and you are likely to profit. A worker with a bad resume shows quite a bit of risk and would be someone not to hire. A worker with no resume is essentially a blind pick. It would be the equivalent to picking stocks without knowledge of the stocks you are picking.
Non skilled and low skilled workers are blind picks. The employer has no clue if hiring them will at all be profitable or not, so what incentive is there to take the risk? Overall, what this results in is employers avoiding hiring non skilled workers unless there are no alternatives. And to be clear, the issue certainly is not that an employer will never higher an unskilled worker, it is just that an employer will only hire a worker at a wage that they believe them to be worth. Though a worker may not be profitable and worth the risk at $7.50 an hour, they may be profitable and worth the risk at $4.75 an hour.
The issue in simple terms is that the low class worker cannot get their foot in the door. Certainly many do, put a large portion do not, especially those who do not have access to good education. It is well known that blacks receive far inferior education in America, and as a results of this they have far less skills than whites. This puts black teenagers at a huge disadvantage to white teenagers as the employer is going to hire the applicant who is most qualified. Certainly one could argue that this is racism on side of the employer, yet this is quite the stretch to make if their decision was based on qualification.
[B]Minimum Wage Ensures Unemployment[/B]
A large issue with people's understanding of legislation similar to this is that it only goes one way. That the minimum wage only ensures that the employer pays the worker an amount greater or equal to it. But it also works the other way around. It make it illegal for someone to work, even voluntarily, below minimum wage. It is as much a restrain on the employer as it is on the worker.
Really, this makes as much sense as the laws forbade the selling of organs. There is no law against working for free, but there is a law against working for a penny.
Surely if the issue is the low skilled laborers are not attractive enough at minimum wage, then it is easy to say that they won't be hired. The minimum wage ensures their unemployment.
[B]Why The Minimum Wage Should Be Abolished[/B]
It should be clear that if the issue is employers not wanting to pay a rate that they do not believe a laborer is worth, then the solution is to abolish the minimum wage. This will not be at a loss to the unskilled laborer as in the alternate scenario they were jobless. Furthermore, now that they got their foot in the door, they are now able to attain skills that will help them compete in the job market.
Abolishing the minimum wage would also be a great means of ridding the form of corporatism talked about in the introduction.
To go further, the minimum wage law is an abridgment of contractual rights. Two individuals out to have the right to come to an agreement that they both believe the benefit from. They should be the only ones to have a say in the contract. Similar to trade contracts, labor contracts must be consensual and both parties must believe they are befitting at the time. Certainly if an individual wants to work below what you'd consider a decent wage, why shouldn't they be allowed to?
[B]Why That Wouldn't Lead To Capitalist Pigs Bidding Down Our Wages To The Lowest Possible Price[/B]
Well, surely the title is misleading because employers will always try to negotiate for the lowest possible wage just as you'll be negotiating for the highest possible wage. That is how all trade works. But the idea behind the title is more this idea that all workers wages will be bid down to extremely low levels and that there will be no way to beat the system.
I've heard this type of argument a few times and it's a bit hard to follow, though in some sense it is a bit poetic because the phrasing seems to describe the very fallacy it is. But even assuming that such a slippery slope is conceivable, the outcome make no sense unless you also assume everyone is the same in every way.
Furthermore, this idea that employers would be able to drive down wages in such a way in all areas is ridiculous. What this statement effectively does is say that employers will not complete for labor, which is untrue. What would realistically happen in such a scenario is that people would refuse to work for a wage they did not agree on. Like in the introduction, Company A could not lower their worker's wage because they knew they workers would not agree on it. The same is true of Company B, and there is no reason to assume people are incapable of negotiating their own wage.
[B]That It?[/B]
I could have taken this a lot of directions, but I preferred a direction that would stay away from research as others sources do that better. It has been debunked time and time again, the minimum wage does not protect the poor, if anything it protects the wealthy. Have I not convinced you? Look into the matter for yourself.
[B]Further Readings[/B]
[url]http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/MinimumWages.html[/url]
[url]http://www.economist.com/node/8090466?story_id=8090466[/url]
[url]http://www.creators.com/conservative/walter-williams/minimum-wage-s-discriminatory-effects.html[/url]
[url]http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2006/04/26/minimum_wage,_maximum_folly[/url]
[url]http://knowledge.wpcarey.asu.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1828[/url]
[url]http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa106.html[/url]
[url]http://mises.org/daily/1950[/url]
[url]http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/07/24/reporting-the-minimum-wage/[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SSBMX;33321328][url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1135153?p=33003732&viewfull=1#post33003732[/url]
not exactly quoteable[/QUOTE] Wow, what's an image macro anyway? Just an image that's out of place?
[QUOTE=coolmzn222;33321402]Wow, what's an image macro anyway? Just an image that's out of place?[/QUOTE]
It's using an image with text for a post in place of text.
[QUOTE=coolmzn222;33321402]Wow, what's an image macro anyway? Just an image that's out of place?[/QUOTE]
no but it'll take a google search to find out
(nominating your post for being dumb btw)
[QUOTE=Craptasket;33321468]no but it'll take a google search to find out
(nominating your post for being dumb btw)[/QUOTE] "Ignorant" is not the same thing as "dumb"
It seems you're ignorant about that.
GET IT?
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;33320916][B]LUHG!, for his brilliant post here: [/B] [highlight]Agree/Disagree for yes/no[/highlight]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1111235?p=31359643&viewfull=1#post31359643[/url][/QUOTE]
I almost had a stroke after reading that.
I will nominate my post right here.
[QUOTE=coolmzn222;33321506]"Ignorant" is not the same thing as "dumb"
It seems you're ignorant about that.
GET IT?[/QUOTE]
That's dumb
i nominate facepunch for all around dumb posts.
[QUOTE=Slithersoul;32214664]Avatars still not fixed?
[img]http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa96/GeneralOlde/Funny%20Pics/avgn.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I nominate every post Doug has made within the past month.
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1137856?p=33111960&viewfull=1#post33111960]Here[/url]
I was in a gaming community with this guy. He's not that big of an idiot on there.
DLC is good and so is DRM that requires you to be constantly online.
I nominate this post.
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