[quote]MOSCOW, March 8 (Xinhua) -- Russia wants the U.S. to respect the human rights of a soldier accused of the largest leak of of classified information in American history, a senior Foreign Ministry official said Thursday.
Konstantin Dolgov, the ministry's commissioner for Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law, criticized the U.S. after a special report from U.N. Human Rights envoy Juan Ernesto Mendez accused the American government of "inhuman and degrading treatment" concerning Army Private Bradley Manning.
Manning, 24, was arrested in May 2010 for allegedly leaking hundreds of thousands of classified diplomatic cables and battlefield reports from Iraq and Afghanistan to the anti-secrecy WikiLeaks website.
The private, who has complained of being held in solitary confinement, of bullying by guards and of being subjected to an ultra restrictive regime, faces 22 charges, including abetting the enemy. That charge carries a maximum punishment of life in prison. The other charges carry a combined maximum of more than 150 years behind bars.
Dolgov criticized in a commentary what he called Americans authorities' "inhuman" treatment of Manning, saying that the U.S. must pay attention to Mendez's report.
"Judging from the big importance Washington lays to the human rights and freedoms issues, we expect the U.S. authorities would act in a strict compliance with their international obligations toward their own citizens, including Manning," Dolgov said.[/quote]
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"no u"
its hilarious because they're going to ignore this and they can't even keep their data safe lol.
Weird thing to say right after their rigged elections.
Pot calling the kettle black.
Where's the evidence that they rigged their elections? Putin has just as many supporters as protestors which would confirm what the elections said. Anyway, as for this - to be honest, what's the problem? The US is known to be one of the biggest human rights violators in the world.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;35053145]Weird thing to say right after their rigged elections.[/QUOTE]
But it's true...
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To be honest, when it doesn't come to politics, Russia has been historically schooling America on basic human dignity.
As the Soviet Union women and other races were treated equally, one of the reasons men like Paul Robeson preferred them over the U.S., they outlawed lobotomies while years later the U.S. still utilized it as a fair punishment in court cases (particularly against the mentally handicapped), and finally Russia has repealed their death penalty while around half the U.S. embrace it.
To be fair it is becoming illegal in Russia to be gay.
[QUOTE=Falchion;35053214]To be fair it is becoming illegal in Russia to be gay.[/QUOTE]
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Russia.
Telling the USA to respect human rights.
Wow, USA, you have sunk.
Very, very deep.
[QUOTE=Falchion;35053214]To be fair it is becoming illegal in Russia to be gay.[/QUOTE]
It's rather disappointing, seems like the government is starting to take the country backwards in some ways.
[QUOTE=Gishank;35053164]Where's the evidence that they rigged their elections? Putin has just as many supporters as protestors which would confirm what the elections said. Anyway, as for this - to be honest, what's the problem? The US is known to be one of the biggest human rights violators in the world.[/QUOTE]
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but just in case:
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/world/europe/fraudulent-votes-for-putin-abound-in-chechnya.html?_r=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Marbalo;35053287]Actually, it's the opposite. The LGBT groups are constantly growing in numbers and each year their parades double in size.
And really, no one is that "against" homosexuality besides the Soviet-born generation that has been raised on such ideals. So it's just a matter of waiting until they die off and Russia will gain a significant foothold with LGBT rights - perhaps even more so than the US.[/QUOTE]
Same thing happening on the US(and pretty much the whole first-world), only ones against homosexuality nowadays is the old farts and they're starting to die off, allowed gay marriage has picked up a lot of pace already.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35053187]To be honest, when it doesn't come to politics, Russia has been historically schooling America on basic human dignity.
As the Soviet Union women and other races were treated equally, one of the reasons men like Paul Robeson preferred them over the U.S., they outlawed lobotomies while years later the U.S. still utilized it as a fair punishment in court cases (particularly against the mentally handicapped), and finally Russia has repealed their death penalty while around half the U.S. embrace it.[/QUOTE]
But when it DOES come to politics, holy shit watch out.
At least here in America, you don't get arrested for speaking your mind.
Nope, couldn't keep a straight face
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35053187]To be honest, when it doesn't come to politics, Russia has been historically schooling America on basic human dignity.
As the Soviet Union women and other races were treated equally, one of the reasons men like Paul Robeson preferred them over the U.S., they outlawed lobotomies while years later the U.S. still utilized it as a fair punishment in court cases (particularly against the mentally handicapped), and finally Russia has repealed their death penalty while around half the U.S. embrace it.[/QUOTE] Yep when America was segregating blacks from whites, the Soviet Union was killing millions of its own people. If only America could have followed their shining example.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;35053496]Yep when America was segregating blacks from whites, the Soviet Union was killing millions of its own people. If only America could have followed their shining example.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, when it doesn't come to politics.
Besides, in a way, we did [B]both at the same time.[/B]
[IMG]http://www.soldierstudies.org/images/webquest/civil%20war%20soldiers.jpg[/IMG]
It's partly true and for one, I would expect the US to respect human rights way more than Russia does and have much higher standards, but it seems the US is below Russia in some aspects. That needs to change, because it's so hypocritical to be a self-proclaimed nation of freedom, liberty, human rights, etc yet they don't seem to follow that at all and have a massive amount of double standards towards things or people they don't like.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35053524]Like I said, when it doesn't come to politics.
Besides, in a way, we did [B]both at the same time.[/B]
[IMG]http://www.soldierstudies.org/images/webquest/civil%20war%20soldiers.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
At least in the Civil War there wasn't... A ton of civilian casualities.
And besides, Russia lost a shitload of lives due to politics.
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"[b]Judging from the big importance Washington lays to the human rights[/b] and freedoms issues, we expect the U.S. authorities would act in a strict compliance with their international obligations toward their own citizens, including Manning," Dolgov said.[/quote]
They're not saying they're any better, they're just calling the US out on their hypocrisy.
I have only one thing to say to you Russia.
Ladies first.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;35053554]At least in the Civil War there wasn't... A ton of civilian casualities.
[/QUOTE]
Are you full on eyes-wide-shut-alien-bugaboo-pants-on-head-climbing-an-electrical-mast-drinking-a-cup-of-elephant-semen-while-upside-down stupid? Of fucking COURSE there were.
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[QUOTE=Psychokitten;35053589]I have only one thing to say to you Russia.
Ladies first.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it be more prudent if you simply went and sought the boy yourself- oh wait. Wrong movie, right character...
Why should they respect it before America does? They've called out the US once while the US has been down pretty everyone and their moms throats about it. Sorry, but it's on 'Merica here.
it is kinda hypocritical for them to say that, but then they do raise a very good point. the usa world police should set a better example before claiming they are the epitome of civil justice
I think everybody should get off their righteous asses and realize the whole world could do better on this subject. Don't get me started on economic slavery and the wealth gap.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35053524]Like I said, when it doesn't come to politics.
Besides, in a way, we did [B]both at the same time.[/B]
[IMG]http://www.soldierstudies.org/images/webquest/civil%20war%20soldiers.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Do you know nothing about the American Civil War? The South nor the North where participating in any genocidal type activities. Besides saying besides politics dosent make any sence when you give examples that would have indeed been political at the time. And regardless you cant just ignore the millions of people killed but yet say they where ahead of anybody in human dignity.
[QUOTE=Gishank;35053164]Where's the evidence that they rigged their elections? Putin has just as many supporters as protestors which would confirm what the elections said. Anyway, as for this - to be honest, what's the problem? The US is known to be one of the biggest human rights violators in the world.[/QUOTE]
He got 107% of the vote in a territory he vowed to flatten.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35053187]To be honest, when it doesn't come to politics, Russia has been historically schooling America on basic human dignity.
As the Soviet Union women and other races were treated equally, one of the reasons men like Paul Robeson preferred them over the U.S., they outlawed lobotomies while years later the U.S. still utilized it as a fair punishment in court cases (particularly against the mentally handicapped), and finally Russia has repealed their death penalty while around half the U.S. embrace it.[/QUOTE]
And while the US and NATO was supporting the Libyan uprising and preventing more civilians from being slaughtered, Russia and China are vetoing anything having to do with Syria in the UNSC because they can still sell guns to them.
140% of Russians agree with this statement.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;35053908]Or they want to further prevent any Western intervention and influence in the Middle East but I guess that's a completely impossible scenario because the West are glorious, just, freedom fighters with no hidden motives and the East are all arms-trading, orphan raping commies.[/QUOTE]
Russia parked a warship in a harbor in Syria as a warning to NATO to keep out of it. And they have been showing and teaching the Syrian military how to go about this wholesale slaughter.
STOP TRYING TO MAKE RUSSIA SEEM LIKE THE NICE GUYS IN THIS!
107% of Russians agree with this.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35053524]Like I said, when it doesn't come to politics.
Besides, in a way, we did [B]both at the same time.[/B]
[IMG]http://www.soldierstudies.org/images/webquest/civil%20war%20soldiers.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Except:
1) Millions of people did not die.
2) No acts of genocide/mass murder were committed.
3) The war ultimately accomplished the abolition of slavery, equal protection under the law for all persons and due process, and granted former slaves the right to vote (under the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments). So it was kind of worth it in the end.
So no, we really didn't "in a way do both at the same time".
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