[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9374758/Higgs-boson-scientists-99.999-sure-God-Particle-has-been-found.html[/url]
[quote]The historic announcement came in a progress report from the Large Hadron Collider particle accelerator.
Professor John Womersley, chief executive of the Science and technology Facilities Council, told reporters at a briefing in London: "They have discovered a particle consistent with the Higgs boson.
"Discovery is the important word. That is confirmed. It's a momentous day for science."
Scientists say it is a 5 sigma result which means they are 99.999% sure they have found a new particle.
Finding the Higgs plugs a gaping hole in the Standard Model, the theory that describes all the particles, forces and interactions that make up the universe. [/quote]
Holy shit
when it comes from LHC it's self i'll believe it.
i first thought they found someone called Higgs Boson when i read the title.
then i remember about the particle..
[QUOTE=Jaks0;36625117][url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9374758/Higgs-boson-scientists-99.999-sure-God-Particle-has-been-found.html[/url]
Holy shit[/QUOTE]
I thought it was that they announced that they found a boson particle, but they didn't know which one?
[QUOTE=Bentham;36625146]I thought it was that they announced that they found a boson particle, but they didn't know which one?[/QUOTE]
that was CMS. ATLAS is reporting 5 sigma
[QUOTE=Dori;36625169]that was CMS. ATLAS is reporting 5 sigma[/QUOTE]
Both claimed to have found a particle that behaves like the Higgs-Boson from the standart model. They didn't really say that it is the Higgs though.
[QUOTE=Dori;36625169]that was CMS. ATLAS is reporting 5 sigma[/QUOTE]
That statement went so far over my head that it entered low orbit. I'll assume it means you're correcting me and the statement in the OP is true.
It's not confirmed they found it.
They're just 99.99999% sure that the particle that they found is the higgs.
Higgs Boson or not, finding a new particle is always a great moment.
Again?
[QUOTE=GameDev;36625296]It's not confirmed they found it.
They're just 99.99999% sure that the particle that they found is the higgs.[/QUOTE]
That's almost as accurate as most natural constants we know.
[QUOTE=GameDev;36625296]It's not confirmed they found it.
They're just 99.99999% sure that the particle that they found is the higgs.[/QUOTE]
In science the most tried and tested theories are only 99.999% sure.
2+2=4 works only 99.999% of the time
[QUOTE=Kondor58;36625696]2+2=4 works only 99.999% of the time[/QUOTE]
the joke is that this is true depending on what you represent the math with
I watched the stream yesterday.
They haven't found the Higgs Boson pretty sure, just something behaving alot like one of the Higgs Boson (They might be implying there's more than one) The technobabble got to my head yesterday night and I've still got a minor hemorrhage in my brain because of it, so I might be wrong and don't remember things properly.
[QUOTE=Bentham;36625184]That statement went so far over my head that it entered low orbit. I'll assume it means you're correcting me and the statement in the OP is true.[/QUOTE]
"5 sigma" just means "5 standard deviation".
i.e. if the higgs boson weren't there, this result would be 5 standard deviations away from what one would expect.
[img]http://www.robertniles.com/stats/graphics/stndv.gif[/img]
The different regions on this bell curve represent the standard deviations. The more standard deviations away from the average you get, the less likely it becomes. 5-sigma is so far to the right it's not even shown on this graph.
basically, 5-sigma is serious shit
In other words, if this isn't the Higgs, it would be an unparalleled coincidence.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36626167]"5 sigma" just means "5 standard deviation".
i.e. if the higgs boson weren't there, this result would be 5 standard deviations away from what one would expect.
[img]http://www.robertniles.com/stats/graphics/stndv.gif[/img]
The different regions on this bell curve represent the standard deviations. The more standard deviations away from the average you get, the less likely it becomes. 5-sigma is so far to the right it's not even shown on this graph.
basically, 5-sigma is serious shit[/QUOTE]
So basically it's "The odds of this happening and it not being what we are looking for are just retardedly low"?
[QUOTE=Bentham;36626331]So basically it's "The odds of this happening and it not being what we are looking for are just retardedly low"?[/QUOTE]
Yep.
who is higgs boson
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