• Kim Jong Un sacks his guardian and uncle from head of military, executes his aides
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[quote](Reuters) - North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is believed to have dismissed a powerful uncle, a man key to his rise to power, from his posts, South Korean lawmakers said on Tuesday, a move that could help consolidate his power base with a younger guard of aides. Jang Song Thaek was likely sacked as vice chairman of the powerful National Defense Commission and as a department head of the ruling Workers' Party, lawmaker Jung Cheong-rae said, citing a senior South Korean official with the National Intelligence Service (NIS). ... The move is likely to tip the balance in favor of another close aide - the top political operative for the army, which could mean a symbolic victory for the 1.2-million-strong military. Choe Ryong Hae, director of the General Political Bureau of the Korean People's Army, has been the most prominent figure to accompany Kim at public events and is a reminder of the state's political roots in military power. ... Two members of the South Korean parliament's Intelligence Committee told separate news briefings that the NIS had confirmed the public execution of two close aides to Jang in the North's ruling Workers' Party for corruption. ... The removal of Jang, a key figure in the power transition following the 2011 death of Kim's father, Kim Jong Il, could tip the balance in the fiercely competitive group of confidants surrounding the current leader but was unlikely to impact on Kim Jong Un's hold on power, experts said. ... "Jang Song Thaek is a person who at one point Kim Jong Un had to cut out as he solidifies his own power structure," said Koh Yu-hwan of Dongguk University in Seoul, a leading expert on the North's leadership. "I think the young elite had Kim get rid of Jang, meaning that he will rule without a guardian." ... [B]Jang, who is widely seen as an advocate of economic reform[/B], was purged in a power struggle in 2004 under Kim Jong Il's rule but was reinstated two years later. One key question now is what his ouster will mean for the devastated economy. "Within the current leadership, he (Jang) seems to be the face of economic reform, so there is a risk involved with removing someone that close to the program," said John Swenson-Wright, a senior fellow at Chatham House, a London-based international affairs think tank. Earlier this year, Jang and his wife were seen backing the appointment of Pak Pong Ju, a career technocrat, for the post of premier to spearhead a push to improve the economy. Jang has been the central figure among top officials and family members who worked to ensure the young and untested son of Kim Jong Il took over power when his father died in 2011. While Jang's ouster could symbolically tip the balance of power in favor of a key figure in the military, Choe, analysts say it is unlikely to signal a return to the military grandstanding of Kim's father as a top priority.[/quote] [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/03/us-korea-north-jang-idUSBRE9B207Q20131203]Reuters[/url] [img]http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20131203&t=2&i=817068143&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=700&pl=378&r=CBRE9B213ML00[/img]
kind of scary to think that an overweight dunce with an excessively bad haircut can have that much power
how does an evolutionist explain North Korea
It's pretty understandable, Stalin did the same thing. Execute all of your higher-ups before they can be too much of a threat to you. Trust no one.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;43057577]how does an evolutionist explain North Korea[/QUOTE] Evolutionary dead end?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;43057577]how does an evolutionist explain North Korea[/QUOTE] I want to say something smart, but all I can think of is bacon now and it's 5:26 AM. Fuck you!
He keeps killing off his staff and it's only a matter of time before someone takes him out.
I guess they wanted the Xbone and he wanted the paystation 4.
[QUOTE=kaine123;43057629]It's pretty understandable, Stalin did the same thing. Execute all of your higher-ups before they can be too much of a threat to you. Trust no one.[/QUOTE] I think Kim Jong Un took that Game of Thrones quote a little too literally.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43057690]I guess they wanted the Xbone and he wanted the paystation 4.[/QUOTE] [I]How Topical![/I]
[QUOTE=kaine123;43057629]It's pretty understandable, Stalin did the same thing. Execute all of your higher-ups before they can be too much of a threat to you. Trust no one.[/QUOTE] I wonder if it's just a measure to maintain power of if he's planning something.
I like to think that North Korea is a real life version of the Truman show.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43057690]I guess they wanted the Xbone and he wanted the paystation 4.[/QUOTE] damn it's like a space robot tried to understand humor "ATTENTION, HUMANS. [newsworthyperson=JIM JONG UN] [event=EXECUTED] [subjects=HIS AIDES]? IT MUST BE BECAUSE [topicalcontent=PLAYSTATION 4 VS XBONE]. THIS UNIT WILL BE HERE ALL THIS LUNAR CYCLE. RAPID APPLAUSE WILL GRANT YOUR SQUISHY BODIES A FIFTY-PERCENT CHANCE OF AVOIDING DEATH BY LASER."
It's probably time they start looking for a different Korea.
[QUOTE=Cone;43057293]kind of scary to think that an overweight dunce with an excessively bad haircut can have that much power[/QUOTE] Did you say bad haircut? I think I can hear the footsteps of North Korean Sleeper agents coming up to your house.
How in the fuck hasn't there been a full military insurrection in NK?
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43057690]I guess they wanted the Xbone and he wanted the paystation 4.[/QUOTE] hahaha, those are video game consoles that recently came out
[QUOTE=sltungle;43057655]I want to say something smart, but all I can think of is bacon now and it's 5:26 AM. Fuck you![/QUOTE] It's a simple question. Does some logic hit a little too close to home for some evolutionists? That been said.. The fuck N. Korea. What a joke of a government.
[QUOTE=kaine123;43057629]It's pretty understandable, Stalin did the same thing. Execute all of your higher-ups before they can be too much of a threat to you. Trust no one.[/QUOTE] As for it saving the North Korean state, I think it won't. Kim Jong Un is trying to control a country that's becoming increasingly outwith his control. When Stalin died, the entire Soviet Union practically changed in an instant. Strikes multiplied, the gulag system practically imploded, the actual rationale behind most institutions was put under severe scrutiny, and from there on the USSR could only buy time before it fell apart. I think its the same case in North Korea. Kim Jong Un is trying to keep his power base consolidated but I don't think he is up to the task. In fact I wouldn't doubt he'd be the last ruler of NK.
Perhaps he plans to purge the army so he can reform the country?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43059066]Perhaps he plans to purge the army so he can reform the country?[/QUOTE] It's not unknown for this sort of thing to happen. Beira was doing something similar in the USSR after Stalin croaked but he moved too quickly and pissed off too many people for his plans to work. (One of his reforms included ending the use of torture in interrogation I believe)
[QUOTE=kaine123;43057629]It's pretty understandable, Stalin did the same thing. Execute all of your higher-ups before they can be too much of a threat to you. Trust no one.[/QUOTE] un already did his purge shortly after he took power. it became necessary due to a coup attempt from part of the military. or at least that's the rumor. the guy executed by mortar fire was part of that purge. this seems like it might be something else.
[QUOTE=kaine123;43057629]It's pretty understandable, Stalin did the same thing. Execute all of your higher-ups before they can be too much of a threat to you. Trust no one.[/QUOTE] stalin was an evil bastard and master of statecraft who had fought his way up through the revolution to become lenin's left-hand man, then after lennin's untimely death, he siezed power from lennin's right hand man and went on to be the dictatorial head of the soviet system. this twat is worshiped as a god and has had an education about how to rule, but its still scary to think that he's actually powerful enough to push around his father's men because they were the ones who handed him the power once his father died
Just to explain, this move serves a few purposes. It consolidates Kim's power further in a seemingly hostile military regime by showing everyone he doesn't need his father's babysitters to run the country, he can do it on his own. It marks an attack on reformers and shows the hardliners that Kim is committed to the regime. It makes way for a new and younger military leader to replace Jang in a way of both establishing that the old regime is out, and a fuck you to the military, but also accommodating the military hardliners who are the point of divide in DPRK politics. Most of the decisions, politically, in the DPRK, can be seen in light of an ongoing power struggle that began later in Kim Jong Il's regime between the legislature/government and the military, who have traded off power back and forth at times. The release of Jang also seems to get rid of one of several potential long-standing "old power" rivals to Kim Jong Un, the other major one being Kim Yong Nam (head of the executive and legislature). He's sacked basically every major military leader at this point, as Chief of the General Staff has had something like 3 changes in officeholder and Defense Minister has had 4 or so since Kim's rise to power.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43057690]I guess they wanted the Xbone and he wanted the paystation 4.[/QUOTE] wrong thread?
Is this in any way a good thing?
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;43064059]Is this in any way a good thing?[/QUOTE] Can be, cannot be, really depends on what he does now. He holds a lot of power he basically has the whole Country at his finger tips, I don't think you could compare his actions to Stalin right now because Stalin was the reincarnation of the Devil, but it'll be interesting to see what happens next. It definitely shows the people of NK that Kim Jong Un doesn't fuck around though and puts a strong message through higher ups that he isn't a baby
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;43064059]Is this in any way a good thing?[/QUOTE] "Finally got rid of those generals. Time to bring in Capitalism and democracy"
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43064260]"Finally got rid of those generals. Time to bring in Capitalism and democracy"[/QUOTE] It wouldn't be that easy and I don't think he is intending to do that
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