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Naked young man on acid murdered by police officer, officer cleared of wrongdoing.

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[quote]A University of South Alabama police officer was cleared of wrongdoing on Friday by a grand jury who said he was defending himself when he shot and killed 18-year-old freshman Gil Collar, AL.com reports. In a press conference Friday, Mobile County District Attorney Ashley Rich told reporters that Collar had been high on a rare laboratory drug called 25I-NBOMe, which is legal even in small doses and conjures extreme hallucinations. The drug helps to explain the bizarre sequence of events that led to Collar's death on Oct. 6 and the national controversy that followed. The Associated Press reported that Collar was running through campus nude, apparently under the influence of what was originally thought to be LSD or acid. Collar allegedly banged on the campus police station's windows, prompting Officer Trevis Austin to exit the station -- gun drawn -- to investigate.[/quote] Video in [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/gil-collar-grand-jury-trevis-austin_n_2812514.html]source[/url]. More sources: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/gil-collar-shooting-trevis-austin-police_n_1965876.html[/url] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217235/Gil-Collar-University-police-officer-shot-naked-student-WAS-carrying-baton-pepper-spray.html[/url] Police brutality at its finest.

The only thing I could imagine going through that cop's head was the miami zombie incident.

Should have had a trip sitter. [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] Capitan Hindsight, Awaaaaaaay!

Hmm, drawing your gun to investigate someone banging on campus police windows, a bit extreme, but still logical to some extent. [QUOTE] saying surveillance tape showed that the slightly built, unarmed, and naked young man never came within five feet of the officer and didn't pose a threat extreme enough to justify shooting him from less than 10 feet away. [B]less than 10 feet away.[/B][/QUOTE] Bit to close for comfort, being between 5-10 feet away, and having a weapon already drawn, kind of makes it hard to draw [QUOTE]nonlethal means like pepper spray, a stun gun or a baton.[/QUOTE] So, a tragic loss, but avoidable if the guy locked his own door and placed the key in a place which needs a stable state of mind to open. [editline]8th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=The Aussie;39851716]Should have had a trip sitter. [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] Capitan Hindsight, Awaaaaaaay![/QUOTE] This is also another option.

Honestly if a drugged-up naked man was running at me I'd shoot him too.

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;39851723]Honestly if a drugged-up naked man was running at me I'd shoot him too.[/QUOTE] I'd taze him if I had a tazer. Which he did.

I'd like to point out that the officer was carrying a baton and pepper spray.

I don't want to take sides on the matter because obviously not being there makes things a [I]whole[/I] lot different to judge, but let's just put it this way - if you're hitting a lab drug, don't run over to the cops. Or worse, bang on their windows. [QUOTE=Mac2468;39851741]I'd like to point out that the officer was carrying a baton and pepper spray.[/QUOTE] Never confront an unidentified threat with a less-lethal weapon unless you have someone providing you with lethal backup. Police weapons training 101.

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;39851723]Honestly if a drugged-up naked man was running at me I'd shoot him too.[/QUOTE] Suppose you had a non lethal weapon alongside your gun, which one would you reach for first?

[QUOTE=Rapist;39851736]I'd taze him if I had a tazer. Which he did.[/QUOTE] Try placing a gun back in a holster and drawing a taser when he is less than 10 feet away, and able to charge at any moment, and you have to leave your guard down and not drop your already armed weapon. Not the smartest move, nor the safest. [QUOTE=Mac2468;39851741]I'd like to point out that the officer was carrying a baton and pepper spray.[/QUOTE] Repeat, you missed that he already had the gun drawn.

[QUOTE=Rapist;39851736]I'd taze him if I had a tazer. Which he did.[/QUOTE] I was under the impression that when you're facing someone who's displaying signs of being on drugs, the general idea is that tazers and pepper sprays aren't likely to do much? I might be wrong but it makes sense.

[QUOTE=deadoon;39851751] Repeat, you missed that he already had the gun drawn.[/QUOTE] He shouldn't have drawn his gun in the first place, the kid was naked where would he pull a weapon from?

[QUOTE=Mac2468;39851766]He shouldn't have drawn his gun in the first place, the kid was naked where would he pull a weapon from?[/QUOTE] He drew the weapon before confrontation to check what the banging was about, he was going into an unknown situation prepared. Read the article before posting.

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;39851754]I was under the impression that when you're facing someone who's displaying signs of being on drugs, the general idea is that tazers and pepper sprays aren't likely to do much? I might be wrong but it makes sense.[/QUOTE] Depends on what they're on, which you have no way of discerning at a glance.

[QUOTE=Mac2468;39851766]He shouldn't have drawn his gun in the first place, the kid was naked where would he pull a weapon from?[/QUOTE] Someone banged on the window, and given that this guy is new, it's understandable that he would draw his gun to face that, especially in the dark. [QUOTE=Paramud;39851773]Depends on what they're on, which you have no way of discerning at a glance.[/QUOTE] He was running around naked. I'd say that was cause enough to assume he was on some heavy stuff.

[QUOTE=Paramud;39851773]Depends on what they're on, which you have no way of discerning at a glance.[/QUOTE] You can make a pretty good educated guess.

[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;39851754]I was under the impression that when you're facing someone who's displaying signs of being on drugs, the general idea is that tazers and pepper sprays aren't likely to do much? I might be wrong but it makes sense.[/QUOTE] Pepper sprays sometimes don't even work if the guy is in a bad mood. The more likely reason that a taser would be ineffective is it missed; they're much more effective than pain-based weaponry. [QUOTE=darkrei9n;39851789]You can make a pretty good educated guess.[/QUOTE] I can think of a few gun nuts that would smack you upside the head for mentioning the words "educated guess" when it comes to firearms...

[QUOTE=Mac2468;39851766]He shouldn't have drawn his gun in the first place, the kid was naked where would he pull a weapon from?[/QUOTE] Someone is beating on your window in the middle of the night, do you think you'd stop to think about what he's wearing and how easily he could conceal something?

nbome is not rare, it's everywhere these days. Also "young man on acid"? It clearly states that it's not acid why would you put that to title.

[QUOTE=deadoon;39851770]He drew the weapon before confrontation to check what the banging was about, he was going into an unknown situation prepared. Read the article before posting.[/QUOTE] While I generally agree on using the gun since he already had it drawn, I don't think the gun is what he should have drawn first, or anything for that matter. Regardless though if I were a cop with my gun drawn and I was confronted with a seriously tripping naked guy and I was put into a position to open fire I would have also. I've seen a lot of videos and read stories of people tripping on serious shit that just don't stop after being tazed or even shot multiple times. This is even before the miami zombie eating a guy's face and taking magazines to the back before dying.

[QUOTE=Reader;39851803]nbome is not rare, it's everywhere these days. Also "young man on acid"? It clearly states that it's not acid why would you put that to title.[/QUOTE] It's a slang term, if I put 25i-nbome most people would have no clue what that meant.

[QUOTE=Mac2468;39851816]It's a slang term, if I put 25-nbome most people would have no clue what that meant.[/QUOTE] You could say "RC psychedelic"

or I could just say "acid" it's not like I put "LSD"

he was on designer drugs... banging on police windows...naked. what the fuck. I don't know where I stand on this. ill read up tomorrow.

[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;39851805]While I generally agree on using the gun since he already had it drawn, I don't think the gun is what he should have drawn first, or anything for that matter. [/QUOTE] Again, it's important to note that this occurred in the early hours of the morning, which means it's dark and not many people are around, so it's more than likely it's someone meaning harm. He banged on the window and I think to face that, the officer was right to draw his gun. I'm sure there are lots of regulations he could and probably should have followed (if I was in his situation I would shout something out before leaving the room, like "WHO ARE YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT" or similar) but under the circumstances I can understand the reaction even if I don't like the outcome.

Thank goodness the police are there to protect us from our own bodies!

[QUOTE=Mac2468;39851828]or I could just say "acid" it's not like I put "LSD"[/QUOTE] Almost everyone associates acid with LSD, not psychs. These kind of things happen very rarely with LSD, so it's better to put RC there than to misinform people.

So do we care if the source is huffpo [I]and[/I] dailymail? Ah, the bottom of the page has links to CBS, nydailymail, and inquisitr as well.

[QUOTE=Mac2468;39851766]He shouldn't have drawn his gun in the first place, the kid was naked where would he pull a weapon from?[/QUOTE]On some types of drugs, a person can [i]be[/i] a weapon. Hell, getting naked and going all berserker is actually a fairly common association with those types of drug freakouts.

[QUOTE=Reader;39851854]Almost everyone associates acid with LSD, not psychs. These kind of things happen very rarely with LSD, so it's better to put RC there than to misinform people.[/QUOTE] Most "acid" on the market these days are nbome's. So no misinformation here, you just don't like the fact that people are using that term for things that aren't LSD.

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