Largest Bog in Western North America is on Fire (again) - Polidicks

[img]http://bc.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2971373!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg[/img] [quote] Fire crews are battling a rapidly growing blaze at Burns Bog in Delta, B.C. that began early Sunday afternoon. Lois Jackson, the mayor of Delta, says the fire had grown to 100,000 square metres by 2:45 p.m. - 10 times larger than it was two hours earlier. Burns Bog is located near 72nd Avenue off Highway 91. Part of Hwy. 17 was completely shut down when winds spread the fire in that direction, and smoke could be seen billowing up from the road.[/quote] [quote] It is not immediately clear what started Sunday’s blaze. The bog is an ecosystem spanning roughly 3,000 hectares between the south arm of the Fraser River and Boundary Bay. Amongst those affected by the fire, AM730 tweeted that their tower was englufed in flames and they were off air[/quote] [url=http://bc.ctvnews.ca/fire-crews-battling-blaze-in-delta-s-burns-bog-1.2971256]**SOURCE**[/url] It last caught fire about ten years ago and because it's a bog it wasn't until the winter that it was finally extinguished. Vancouver's gonna be smoked up for months. [quote]ackson said she was concerned about the wind fueling the blaze, noting that Delta officials have been working to keep people out of the bog after a fire in 2005 was thought to be human-caused.[/quote] Oh, you mean you're not allowed to wander into the area? I've always hiked across it for a challenge.

Burns Bog is Burning Once again. What caused it last time?

They think someone went in and simply set it on fire. That or something went terribly wrong in one of the many grow-ops operating in there. [img]http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/1741909.jpg[/img] This time of year however the water table drops and a lot of the surface vegetation dries out so it's not the forest in the bog that's the issue it's the peat that's going to smoulder until the water table rises again. [editline]sadsagfdsdgfsdf[/editline] 6PM. Winds shifted. It's getting out of hand. Marine traffic on the Fraser River has been halted to allow water bombers and helicopters to refill. Additional roads have closed and evacuation orders have been issued to the nearby industrial park. One of my old workplaces are included. A residential area is also on notice to leave when told. Crews from all over the lower mainland are being sent to fight it before it spreads further into the bog or the adjoining landfill. [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cme0P3lUMAA9fvM.jpg[/img]

You have to wonder what it will take to convince anti GW people that climate change is real when freekin Canada is burning. Not that this was exactly climate change caused but the dry and short winters haven't helped

[QUOTE=Sableye;50642362]You have to wonder what it will take to convince anti GW people that climate change is real when freekin Canada is burning. Not that this was exactly climate change caused but the dry and short winters haven't helped[/QUOTE] Canada has always had wildfires.

[QUOTE=Sableye;50642362]You have to wonder what it will take to convince anti GW people that climate change is real when freekin Canada is burning. Not that this was exactly climate change caused but the dry and short winters haven't helped[/QUOTE] Even before climate change was an issue, wildfires worse than this have happened.

[QUOTE=Sableye;50642362]You have to wonder what it will take to convince anti GW people that climate change is real when freekin Canada is burning. Not that this was exactly climate change caused but the dry and short winters haven't helped[/QUOTE] You know we're not covered in snow year round right

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50642711]You know we're not covered in snow year round right[/QUOTE] Do you think the average American knows anything about Canada?

What steps are the Canadian Government taking to fight this? I was left with the impression that the government drug their feet in dealing with it last time.

[QUOTE=Del91;50642859]Do you think the average American knows anything about Canada?[/QUOTE] Well, to be honest, no. But it's not like a magical border that when you cross you step into a winter wonderland :v:

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50642711]You know we're not covered in snow year round right[/QUOTE] canada is composed entirely of ice, beavers, molson, tim hortons, and hockey and I refuse to believe otherwise

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50642917]Well, to be honest, no. But it's not like a magical border that when you cross you step into a winter wonderland :v:[/QUOTE] the further north you go, the more basically canada it becomes. at the border is the point of no return. if you cross that line you start speaking french and celine dion starts playing on loop in your head

[QUOTE=Sableye;50642362]You have to wonder what it will take to convince anti GW people that climate change is real when freekin Canada is burning. Not that this was exactly climate change caused but the dry and short winters haven't helped[/QUOTE] Arguments like this strengthen the deniers... 'when will people stop denying these vague claims we cant scientifically back up' if the pro climate change people kept to the raw data and numbers and ONLY to the raw data and numbers, the debate would have lasted 2 hours and a press conference and america would be carbon neutral. Bogs burning has been known to happen even under colder climates, its a force of nature so to speak.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50643015]Arguments like this strengthen the deniers... 'when will people stop denying these vague claims we cant scientifically back up' if the pro climate change people kept to the raw data and numbers and ONLY to the raw data and numbers, the debate would have lasted 2 hours and a press conference and america would be carbon neutral. Bogs burning has been known to happen even under colder climates, its a force of nature so to speak.[/QUOTE] fire starts just fine in the cold anyway. in fact, assuming the humidity is the same as on a hot day, it'll burn harder because the air is more dense. denser air means more oxygen, more oxygen means hotter fire. it's first grade science

[QUOTE=butre;50643020]fire starts just fine in the cold anyway. in fact, assuming the humidity is the same as on a hot day, it'll burn harder because the air is more dense. denser air means more oxygen, more oxygen means hotter fire. it's first grade science[/QUOTE] Yes, cold dry winds start out of control fires, hot summer days slow it down.

[QUOTE=butre;50642995]canada is composed entirely of ice, beavers, molson, tim hortons, and hockey and I refuse to believe otherwise[/QUOTE] Don't forget the mooses!

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50642917]Well, to be honest, no. But it's not like a magical border that when you cross you step into a winter wonderland :v:[/QUOTE] Quite so. This is America we're talking about, not Westeros.

Sure hope the govt accepts any help if this gets too far out of hand

I didnt think there were bogs outside Ireland. Do people use them for fuel as well?

It's not bad today, but yesterday it was smoggy as hell around here. You couldn't even see the mountains anymore and there was light ash falling from the sky everywhere. Mind you, I'm only like 45km (27.6 miles) away from it.

The lower Mainland ECOM is reporting that the number of 911 calls they've been getting regarding smoke has more than quadroupled over the last 24 hours. They're telling people on the radio to not call 911 if they see or smell smoke. :v: