Mitt Romney, Really? - General

First of all this is not a thread about how fake romney is , or how his most popular talks are pure political crowd pleasers. This thread is on how Mitt Romney is the most popularly supported republican candidate by the common people who are registered as republican voters , in the closed primaries. I just cannot bear the idea that the majority of the republican voters vote for him. I mean I went Iowa, Maine saw his speeches in person and the auditorium he was in was more filled than Mitt Romnies or any other past republican candidate. Fewer and Fewer people are active in politics these days, and there are less signs put in people's front houses for whom they support, but I've seen a few in my mom's neighborhood and they were all Ron Paul's. Everywhere I look and everyone I know supports Ron Paul or they just don't care, the only Mitt Romney supporter I've found out were couple of old people. Especially online, Look at Mitt Romney's official ads, more dislikes , more ron paul comments , nothing supporting him. So my question is how is he "winning" the republican nomination in such a ghostly way or I am literally blind , or I just don't have a lot of different sided friends. thanks [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Asking for opinions, discussion - not a debate." - Megafan))[/highlight]

Because more people do support him and your notion of Ron Paul having more supporters is just location-ally biased. Also your grammar is terrible.

If you visit those crazy bat shit insane political websites/blogs or the fox news website comments, you'll find those rmoney republican'ts coming out of the woodwork to bitch about black people, mexicans, and obama. Also, most republicans don't even pay attention to politics because they just vote a certain way because it's "family tradition to vote republican". Being a republican 20-40 years ago was actually the ideal/smart way to vote. Then the party was hijacked and all of that shit and now you have the republican party of today. (but they are too ignorant/dont care enough to know that their party doesn't represent what it did back then) Most of the baby-boomers are damaged thanks to their precious fox news anyway, I don't think they'll ever recover until they die off.

My guess is similar to the above poster's, "old people." However, a point I'd like to raise is, how was it ever an "ideal/smart way to vote" by simply picking a party and sticking with them? Additionally, why do people think they're proving anything other than their own ignorance when stooping all the way down to name-calling parties? Does anyone out there vote by, you know, looking at all of the candidates and picking the one that seems to actively support (not claim to support) the issues thought most important by the voter, with the best solution in the mind of the voter?

I think a core chunk of the GOP still wish for Santorum and he begrudgingly gave his support to Romney, I'm sure his supporters are hesitant too. As to how he's still winning without having actual supporters? Well, when your opposition is people who don't bother or care, you're "winning".

He was the only "electable" republican candidate. Ron Paul was too radiacal Rick Santorum was pants on head retarded Newt Gingritch seemed like an overall bad person So it's perfectly reasonable that Mitt got the primary.

[QUOTE=Fenderson;36543917]He was the only "electable" republican candidate. Ron Paul was too radiacal Rick Santorum was pants on head retarded Newt Gingritch seemed like an overall bad person So it's perfectly reasonable that Mitt got the primary.[/QUOTE] I have always felt that "electability" is the stupidest concept in politics. The point of the primaries is to determine who is the best to be elected. This is essentially saying "Mitt Romney should win because he's a winner" before he actually has won anything.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36544118]I have always felt that "electability" is the stupidest concept in politics. The point of the primaries is to determine who is the best to be elected. This is essentially saying "Mitt Romney should win because he's a winner" before he actually has won anything.[/QUOTE] It seemed that the GOP wanted to cater to the most amount of people to have a chance at eating Obama in the primaries, and Romney could do that. I think the idea of electability is wrong as well, but if you can get a candidate that more people agree with than the other ones, you run the ability of holding the executive position and being able to veto the bills you don't like.

The problem is that the least educated people in America end up making the actual decision of who becomes president. It's a lot easier to appeal to these people with a good looking fairly moderate candidate that doesn't really hold any extreme views.

It just amazes me that the people who vote for Romney or Obama never look at who finances their campaign , or see which laws they are against or for in their history of record voting. Going to war in Iran is the same war propaganda that was happening when we went to war in Iraq because of so called "WMDs" Romney not too long ago said that he as president has no problem on going to war with Iran without a declaration of war. Does he ever think Iran doesn't even have the jets to fly half way to U.S? Or maybe he is getting funded by defense contractors. Fuck it after this election I am just going to think about making money and less about elections, they don't seem to matter even when there is a perfect candidate for our time.

[QUOTE=BROSEPH;36532313]If you visit those crazy bat shit insane political websites/blogs or the fox news website comments, you'll find those rmoney republican'ts coming out of the woodwork to bitch about black people, mexicans, and obama. Also, most republicans don't even pay attention to politics because they just vote a certain way because it's "family tradition to vote republican". Being a republican 20-30 years ago was actually the ideal/smart way to vote. Then the party was hijacked and all of that shit and now you have the republican party of today. (but they are too ignorant/dont care enough to know that their party doesn't represent what it did back then) Most of the baby-boomers are damaged thanks to their precious fox news anyway, I don't think they'll ever recover until they die off.[/QUOTE] You and the OP seem ignorant and bias your views of republicans based off what you have heard or seen with no real facts, just opinion. You don't like Romney so you spread slander. Until you start giving facts, you have no credibility.

[QUOTE=QuikKill;36548896]You and the OP seem ignorant and bias your views of republicans based off what you have heard or seen with no real facts, just opinion. You don't like Romney so you spread slander. Until you start giving facts, you have no credibility.[/QUOTE] My entire family (apart from my sister and I) are textbook fox-news loving church going conservative voters. The elder ones are mixed between being redneck and just plain naive -- they have matured with the republican party and at this point they rock the stereotype that everyone talks about when people trash "republicans". They believe every story on fox news, take the bible literally, hate black people, dislike Obama and call him a socialist baby killer -- the whole nine yards. Yes, they really want to vote for Mitt Romney -- Yes, they voted for John McCain. Even during the 2008 election season the females of the family became obsessed with Sarah Palin and went to buy custom made glasses that perfectly reflected the style of Sarah Palin's eye wear. They don't cuss, they're the most selfish people in the world, they are fake and two-faced, only do it because they are afraid of dying and think god will help them live forever so they try to be good devout Christians. When I said I was atheist they tried to have a family meeting and cried for hours and told me they know I'm on the wrong path in life and that they want to "Correct it and put me on the christian path". Divorce is evil to them, they don't believe in dinosaurs/evolution, they think watching harry potter is going cause them to go to hell. (lol?) I can hardly look at them anymore. I could go further in-depth with you about how crooked their world view is and describe the level of their ignorance but I don't have time to educate you. I was speaking from many years of experience of analyzing their behavior, the way they vote and associate religion with their politics. You know how they operate, there is much truth to the stereotype. Next time, you need to chill the fuck out. I don't have any shits to give if you think some republicans actually have a brain.

[QUOTE=BROSEPH;36551281]My entire family (apart from my sister and I) are textbook fox-news loving church going conservative voters. The elder ones are mixed between being redneck and just plain naive -- they have matured with the republican party and at this point they rock the stereotype that everyone talks about when people trash "republicans". They believe every story on fox news, take the bible literally, hate black people, dislike Obama and call him a socialist baby killer -- the whole nine yards. Yes, they really want to vote for Mitt Romney -- Yes, they voted for John McCain. Even during the 2008 election season the females of the family became obsessed with Sarah Palin and went to buy custom made glasses that perfectly reflected the style of Sarah Palin's eye wear. They don't cuss, they're the most selfish people in the world, they are fake and two-faced, only do it because they are afraid of dying and think god will help them live forever so they try to be good devout Christians. When I said I was atheist they tried to have a family meeting and cried for hours and told me they know I'm on the wrong path in life and that they want to "Correct it and put me on the christian path". Divorce is evil to them, they don't believe in dinosaurs/evolution, they think watching harry potter is going cause them to go to hell. (lol?) I can hardly look at them anymore. I could go further in-depth with you about how crooked their world view is and describe the level of their ignorance but I don't have time to educate you. I was speaking from many years of experience of analyzing their behavior, the way they vote and associate religion with their politics. You know how they operate, there is much truth to the stereotype. Next time, you need to chill the fuck out.[/QUOTE] So you basically stalked your family for a week and you now think you are credible on speaking of the ways the right wing operates.

[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;36551386]So you basically stalked your family for a week and you now think you are credible on the ways the right wing operates.[/QUOTE] Huehuehuehuehue! Nice one buddy, you almost got me there for a sec! (news flash: you're an idiot) see [quote=Broseph]I was speaking from [B]many[/B] years of experience of analyzing their behavior, the way they vote and associate religion with their politics.[/quote] And by many, I mean 30. I think I have far more experience in the subject than you or any of your incompetent facepunch ass-buddies combined. Enjoy continuing to speak based upon what you read on Reddit this morning though! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("This is not debating." - Megafan))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=BROSEPH;36551417]Huehuehuehuehue! Nice one buddy, you almost got me there for a sec! (news flash: you're an idiot) see And by many, I mean 30. I think I have far more experience in the subject than you or any of your incompetent facepunch ass-buddies combined. Enjoy continuing to speak based upon what you read on Reddit this morning though![/QUOTE] So you are fifteen and wanted to feel better so you say you are thirty and when anyone brings it up they must be reddit yet at the same time must have tons of 'facepunch ass budies' even though reddit and facepunch despise each other. What.

[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;36551494]So you are fifteen[/QUOTE] Stop posting useless bullshit in the debate section. How about we try building a real argument next time, okay? You crazy teenagers/stoners are killing our wholesome community.

Yea those damn stoners and their weed!! You don't sound to wholesome yourself, and at this point this hardly looks like debate.

[QUOTE=BROSEPH;36551558]Stop posting useless bullshit in the debate section. How about we try building a real argument next time, okay? You crazy teenagers/stoners are killing our wholesome community.[/QUOTE] That's not a very nice thing to say.

People liked Obama, Mitt Romney is the exact same, just with less saturation to the skin.

[QUOTE=BROSEPH;36551281]My entire family (apart from my sister and I) are textbook fox-news loving church going conservative voters. The elder ones are mixed between being redneck and just plain naive -- they have matured with the republican party and at this point they rock the stereotype that everyone talks about when people trash "republicans". They believe every story on fox news, take the bible literally, hate black people, dislike Obama and call him a socialist baby killer -- the whole nine yards. Yes, they really want to vote for Mitt Romney -- Yes, they voted for John McCain. Even during the 2008 election season the females of the family became obsessed with Sarah Palin and went to buy custom made glasses that perfectly reflected the style of Sarah Palin's eye wear. They don't cuss, they're the most selfish people in the world, they are fake and two-faced, only do it because they are afraid of dying and think god will help them live forever so they try to be good devout Christians. When I said I was atheist they tried to have a family meeting and cried for hours and told me they know I'm on the wrong path in life and that they want to "Correct it and put me on the christian path". Divorce is evil to them, they don't believe in dinosaurs/evolution, they think watching harry potter is going cause them to go to hell. (lol?) I can hardly look at them anymore. I could go further in-depth with you about how crooked their world view is and describe the level of their ignorance but I don't have time to educate you. I was speaking from many years of experience of analyzing their behavior, the way they vote and associate religion with their politics. You know how they operate, there is much truth to the stereotype. Next time, you need to chill the fuck out. I don't have any shits to give if you think some republicans actually have a brain.[/QUOTE] My family consists of crazy fundamentalists and the call themselves Republicans, therefore all Republicans are crazy fundamentalists. Perfect logic if I do say so myself.

[QUOTE=Riller;36556187]People liked Obama, Mitt Romney is the exact same, just with less saturation to the skin.[/QUOTE] Except for Obama doesn't want to eliminate the capital gains tax, wants keep at least [I]some[/I] regulation on businesses and will try to fight Citizens United, rather than try to keep it nearly invincible.

[QUOTE=sgman91;36558059]My family consists of crazy fundamentalists and the call themselves Republicans, therefore all Republicans are crazy fundamentalists. Perfect logic if I do say so myself.[/QUOTE] Yeah basically, that's how the baby boomers are conditioned to think. (all of their parents, friends, (Dead or alive) family, acquaintances all act/are exhibited the same irrational behavior / wrong to be gay/atheist etc.) All of it appears to boil down to one thing: Christianity. Without it, republicans would not exist. We would just have conservatives and just selfish people in-general, but they wouldn't be able to use religion to gather support/fund raise like they do now. and for the obvious trolls -- I'm talking about the insane (older people) part of the republican party that vote and support a candidate without using their brain and are unwilling to listen to more intelligent people if they tried to explain to them that people like Mitt Romney are not going to better the world as they believe they will. You people can continue to assert your pseudo intelligence (aka subtle trolling) to defend republicans for whatever reason -- but hey, I'll be sleeping well at night thanks to the knowledge I have. You won't.