VIDEO: Man surrenders and complies amid arrest, out of nowhere an officer sprinting at him punts the - Polidicks

[IMG]http://kotv.images.worldnow.com/images/23875950_BG3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/w300-dc484764cbff0b34fab6535105ad7f4a.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://www.newson6.com/story/23875950/miami-police-officers[/URL] [quote]MIAMI, Oklahoma -[B] Three Miami police officers were suspended after dashcam video of an arrest painted a much different picture than the officer's report.[/B] An attorney shared it exclusively with News On 6. The driver's attorney got the video through a subpoena. He said the video should be made public and he knows it is the reason his client's DUI charges were dropped. In the dashcam video from an O-H-P trooper's cruiser, you can hear the trooper turn on his lights as he follows a suspected drunk driver. Once the truck pulls over, a Miami police officer gets out of her car and approaches Jerry Payne's truck. Payne's attorney, Josh Lee, said her police report doesn't add up with what happens next. "[B]You're going to see where she says the driver immediately got out of his truck. He never gets out of his truck[/B]," Lee said. [B]Moments later, the trooper is seen pulling Payne out of the truck.[/B] "That's a state trooper right there. The lady to the left is a Miami police officer and then the other Miami police officer comes from back over here, and this is when he comes running and kicks Mr. Payne right in the face and you see his head snap back pretty good," Lee said. ... [B]Payne's DUI charges were ultimately dropped after the trooper's video came to light. [/B] "Dash cam is the only thing that's going to try to set the record straight," Lee said. "I am such a believer in them because of things like this, and because I think the public has to know what their government is doing." [B]That is why Lee said he chose to show us the video and he hopes lawmakers will consider making all dashcam video public record.[/B] [B]"When it's the battle of his word, her word, police officer wins every time," Lee said.[/B] The Miami police chief could not comment on the investigation, but he told us both officers in the video and their supervisor are on paid administrative leave. OHP says the trooper in the video has not been suspended. Payne's attorney said they are requesting the city investigate and file perjury and assault and battery charges.[/quote] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdVAVxpIFj4[/media] One of the main reasons why cops have dashcams is because it was intended to be used as supporting evidence for officers in court (i.e. how a stop went down). It says a lot when it's purpose is backfiring.

Honestly, it doesn't look like the third cop deliberately kicked him, it looks more like he was just running up and didn't stop in time. Also you can't really see "his head snap back really good". And considering the angle of the "kick", the nature of the injuries, and what shoes are typically made of, it does seem more believable that the visible injuries came from having his head jammed against the ground.

i love dashcams because of things like this really, i do

Looks to me like the cop just runs up to help subdue him and trips onto him. You can't really tell in the video, but I didn't see him drawing his leg back to kick at all, or slow his running pace to target. Also, the article doesn't include a report on his injuries just a picture. It doesn't appear to me that the picture shows trauma from a blunt kick. It looks like a scrape.

All I could think of while reading the title was Captain America in Generation Kill this in particular [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpAypaueMG8[/media]

Still sounds crooked if a cop made an inaccurate/fake report.

His leg is hiked forward at 43 seconds. His stride length prior dictates the hike was unnecessary as a means of motion. He also slows down just before reaching the man and shows he is deliberately hiking. Unnecessary leg movement in the end, but whether it was deliberately intended to kick the man is another matter. I'll withhold my judgment on it for now.

Intentional or not, that was unnecessary and reckless what he did.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196251']Looks to me like the cop just runs up to help subdue him and trips onto him. You can't really tell in the video, but I didn't see him drawing him leg back to kick at all. Also, the article doesn't include a report on his injuries just a picture. It doesn't appear to me that the picture shows trauma from a blunt kick. It looks like a scrape.[/QUOTE] You don't have to draw your leg back when kicking someone if you're running at the same time. He raises his leg right before he kicks him if you pay attention. If the officer's intentions were truly genuine and accidental, then he would have no problem inputting that into the report. But they weren't and he lied about what happened.

i reckon as soon as you file a false report you should be fired. being a police officer is such a position of power and responsibility anyone that shows they can and will make false reports to defend their misdeeds or the misdeeds of other officers can't be trusted to wield that power & responsibility

[QUOTE=Starpluck;43196325]You don't have to draw your kick back when kicking someone while running at the same time. He raises his leg right before he kicks him if you pay attention. If the officer's intentions were truly genuine and accidental, then he would have no problem inputting that into the report. But they weren't and he lied about what happened.[/QUOTE] I just watched the video for the sixth time. He does raise is leg up a bit to much on the last step, which looks like he might be kicking with the bottom of his boot. That would explain the scrape, but you'd think you would see a larger mark, or some sign of more extended bruising in the pictures. It looks to me like the leg movement would be explained as trying to step over him to position as much as to throw a kick. Really it is to blurry to tell, but I remain suspicious. The guy was busted for drunk driving and is using this as a defense, so it doesn't come from the most trustworthy angle.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196376']I just watched the video for the sixth time. He does raise is leg up a bit to much on the last step, which looks like he might be kicking with the bottom of his boot. That would explain the scrape, but you'd think you would see a larger mark, or some sign of more extended bruising in the pictures. It looks to me like the leg movement would be explained as trying to step over him position as much as to throw a kick. Really it is to blurry to tell, but I remain suspicious. The guy was busted for drunk driving and is using this as a defense, so it doesn't come from the most trustworthy angle.[/QUOTE] What does being suspected of drunk driving have anything to do with being kicked in the face? The charges were dropped so that makes him more trustworthy now, right? If instead, the charges were dropped because the cops knew they fucked up, then that's acknowledging what we've been trying to explain to you the entire time. That the cops fucked up and used excessive force.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;43196383]What does being suspected of being drunk & driving have anything to do with your face being punted while restrained?[/QUOTE] It doesn't, but it gives you motivation to use it as a defense, as worked for this guy. It is motive to exaggerate.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196376']I just watched the video for the sixth time. He does raise is leg up a bit to much on the last step, which looks like he might be kicking with the bottom of his boot. That would explain the scrape, but you'd think you would see a larger mark, or some sign of more extended bruising in the pictures. It looks to me like the leg movement would be explained as trying to step over him position as much as to throw a kick. Really it is to blurry to tell, but I remain suspicious. The guy was busted for drunk driving and is using this as a defense, so it doesn't come from the most trustworthy angle.[/QUOTE] and this defense caused his drunk driving charges to be dropped, what does that tell you?

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196376']I just watched the video for the sixth time. He does raise is leg up a bit to much on the last step, which looks like he might be kicking with the bottom of his boot. That would explain the scrape, but you'd think you would see a larger mark, or some sign of more extended bruising in the pictures. It looks to me like the leg movement would be explained as trying to step over him to position as much as to throw a kick. Really it is to blurry to tell, but I remain suspicious. The guy was busted for drunk driving and is using this as a defense, so it doesn't come from the most trustworthy angle.[/QUOTE] I don't think you quite understand how arrest procedure works. Here, I'll give you a hint, don't run at someone already subdued and kick them in the head. [editline]15th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE='[sluggo];43196387']It doesn't, but it gives you motivation to use it as a defense, as worked for this guy. It is motive to exaggerate.[/QUOTE] Yeah he's exaggerating that facial trauma he unnecessarily received.

[QUOTE=amute;43196397]I don't think you quite understand how arrest procedure works. Here, I'll give you a hint, don't run at someone already subdued and kick them in the head.[/QUOTE] Did I make you think I supported it? I am just questioning the suspects claims. The video is blurry and obscured by another cop. The offending officers movements could be explained almost as well by just trying to help restrain after seeing a struggle. His injuries don't match up that well. And he has reason to lie of exaggerate to get the charges dropped.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196417']Did I make you think I supported it? I am just questioning the suspects claims. The video is blurry and obscured by another cop. The offending officers movements could be explained almost as well by just trying to help restrain after seeing a struggle. His injuries don't match up that well. And he has reason to lie of exaggerate to get the charges dropped.[/QUOTE] The dude ran at him and injured him, it was an unnessary move. You could demonstrate that in fucking 8-bit. And how the fuck does his injuries not match up? And yes, you do make it out as if you support it. Mainly because it wouldn't be the first morally bankrupt thing you support.

Let's defend drunk drivers until they kill a loved one. yay!

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196417']Did I make you think I supported it? I am just questioning the suspects claims. The video is blurry and obscured by another cop. The offending officers movements could be explained almost as well by just trying to help restrain after seeing a struggle. His injuries don't match up that well. And he has reason to lie of exaggerate to get the charges dropped.[/QUOTE] A video's blur is only relevant in cases where someone needs to be accurately identified. The blur doesn't obscure the fact that he did visibly raise his foot unnecessarily towards the guy's face, and the 'blur' has nothing to do with the cop committing perjury afterwards to cover his ass up. No cop would risk his job by committing perjury for no reason, unless the incident he committed would result in being fired regardless. Then it's worth the gamble as the Miami officer was well-aware of.

Why exactly are they ripping him out of the truck? Why not just ask him to get out like a normal stop?

[QUOTE=amute;43196424]The dude ran at him and injured him, it was an unnessary move. You could demonstrate that in fucking 8-bit. And how the fuck does his injuries not match up? And yes, you do make it out as if you support it. Mainly because it wouldn't be the first morally bankrupt thing you support.[/QUOTE] I agree that his injuries were unnecessary, if you are under the impression that anyone here disputed that I think you are mistaken. My point is that it is as likely that his injuries were accidental, and probably not grounds to drop the charges. No, the injuries don't really match up. The picture shows a scrap on his cheek, which matches far more with his face hitting the ground than the blunt trauma usually associated with a kick. You should see more signs of an impact and bruising.

[QUOTE=avincent;43196429]Let's defend drunk drivers until they kill a loved one. yay![/QUOTE] The topic is about a police having used excessive force though, not him drunk driving. I really don't get how you can take X and make Y out of it.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;43196439]A video's blur is only relevant in cases where someone needs to be accurately identified. The blur doesn't obscure the fact that he did visibly raise his foot unnecessarily towards the guy's face, and the 'blur' has nothing to do with the cop committing perjury afterwards to cover his ass up. No cop would risk his job by committing perjury for no reason, unless the incident he committed would result in being fired regardless. Then it's worth the gamble as the Miami officer was well-aware of.[/QUOTE] The cops report doesn't seem to be included. I would like to read it. If he filed a false report he should be fired regardless, I agree. I would like to hear this from a perspective other than the lawyer for the victim though. Specifically an analyses of the injuries and the pictures would be nice.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196466']I agree that his injuries were unnecessary, if you are under the impression that anyone here disputed that I think you are mistaken. My point is that it is as likely that his injuries were accidental, and probably not grounds to drop the charges. No, the injuries don't really match up. The picture shows a scrap on his cheek, which matches far more with his face hitting the ground than the blunt trauma usually associated with a kick. You should see more signs of an impact and bruising.[/QUOTE] Accidental or not, again, the cause of it was reckless. Actually it does match up, while that could just be a heavy abrasion, that looks more like ecchymosis. It's normal facial trauma for being fucking bum rushed and kicked while on the ground.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43196228]Honestly, it doesn't look like the third cop deliberately kicked him, it looks more like he was just running up and didn't stop in time. Also you can't really see "his head snap back really good". And considering the angle of the "kick", the nature of the injuries, and what shoes are typically made of, it does seem more believable that the visible injuries came from having his head jammed against the ground.[/QUOTE] When you lightly run like that you have enough time to stop and steady yourself. The guy's just an ass.

[QUOTE=amute;43196588]Accidental or not, again, the cause of it was reckless. Actually it does match up, while that could just be a heavy abrasion, that looks more like ecchymosis. It's normal facial trauma for being fucking bum rushed and kicked while on the ground.[/QUOTE] The lack of swelling, though it does look like Ecchymosis, doesn't suggest impact trauma to me. I am not that educated in the field though.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196639']The lack of swelling, though it does look like Ecchymosis, doesn't suggest impact trauma to me. I am not that educated in the field though.[/QUOTE] I am. Swelling does not always occur with eccymosis. So unless you're implying the injury is faked, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[QUOTE=amute;43196682]I am. Swelling does not always occur with eccymosis. So unless you're implying the injury is faked, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.[/QUOTE] My point this whole time, is that the injury doesn't appear to match up with a sudden hard kick, but with a rather forceful scrape along the ground. I was saying the opposite of what you seemed to interpreted my post to mean. Ecchymosis is (according to my elementary understanding and subsequent googling), a hemotoma formed within the skin itself. This creates a more dramatic appearance than it being deeper (a common bruise), but no swelling. I was saying that that doesn't seem indicative of a sudden application of blunt force, such as a boot hitting you.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];43196725']My point this whole time, is that the injury doesn't appear to match up with a sudden hard kick, but with a rather forceful scrape along the ground. I was saying the opposite of what you seemed to interpreted my post to mean. Ecchymosis is (according to my elementary understanding and subsequent googling), a hemotoma formed within the skin itself. This creates a more dramatic appearance than it being deeper (a common bruise), but no swelling. I was saying that that doesn't seem indicative of a sudden application of blunt force, such as a boot hitting you.[/QUOTE] Why are you discussing something you admittedly don't know?

[QUOTE=amute;43196747]Why are you discussing something you admittedly don't know?[/QUOTE] Because you just completely misinterpreted what I meant, and I was clarifying? I would love for you to actually explain this to me, and how it matches up with a kick as was delivered in the video. Please do, since you know so much.