The Baroness with balls, defending voiceless Muslim women. - Polidicks

[img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02888/baroness-cox_2888417b.jpg[/img] [i]Baroness Cox of Queensbury: I’m passionate about Muslim women and yet I am called Islamophobic[/i] [quote]The House of Lords has long encouraged a spirit of imperviousness to conventional wisdom, whether because of its members’ rank and wealth, or more recently when those appointed to the upper chamber have risen so high in their various careers and callings. Baroness Cox of Queensbury, its former Deputy Speaker, is a prime example. A nurse, educationalist and human rights campaigner, she caught Margaret Thatcher’s eye in 1982 and was named as a Tory working peer. “The first baroness I ever met,” recalls this feisty 73-year-old, “was when I looked in the mirror that morning”. Ever since, she has used the red benches to raise neglected, inconvenient and unfashionable causes. “I prefer to think of myself,” she muses over Earl Grey and scones in the House of Lords tea room, as the “voice of the voiceless”. Her latest crusade is to rally to the defence of British Muslim women, spurred on by the recent decision of the Law Society to publish “good practice” notes for solicitors on making wills compliant with sharia. This can deny women equal shares of inheritance, and exclude children born out of wedlock. “The suffragettes will be turning in their graves,” says Lady Cox. “It undermines the most fundamental principles of equality enshrined in British law”. Not so, claim government ministers; while the retired president of the Supreme Court, Lord Phillips, has said: “There is no reason why the principles of sharia law… should not be the basis for mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution.” Lady Cox shakes her head: “Give me a break.” In Britain’s 85 sharia courts and councils, she says, sharia “seeps” into enforcing divorce settlements, ignoring domestic violence and deciding access to children, all properly the preserve of British law. And that is why Lady Cox is determined to get her Arbitration and Mediation Services (Equality) Bill on to the statute book.[/quote] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/10778554/The-feisty-baroness-defending-voiceless-Muslim-women.html[/url]

First I've heard of this woman, why is she being called islamophobic?

[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;44612595]First I've heard of this woman, why is she being called islamophobic?[/QUOTE] Because she's wanting to oppose sharia-compliant wills which deny women inheritance, so is being called islamophobic for it.

[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;44612595]First I've heard of this woman, why is she being called islamophobic?[/QUOTE] Because she doesn't want Sharia Law used due to it discriminating against women, children etc.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;44612609]Because she doesn't want Sharia Law used due to it discriminating against women, children etc.[/QUOTE] Specifically children born out of wedlock.

I assume it's because she seems to be following the train of thought that sharia law is "taking over" by having some guidelines reference it.

That picture scared me.

That picture is kinda creepy.

Not calling her the baroness with cajones.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;44612609]Because she doesn't want Sharia Law used due to it discriminating against women, children etc.[/QUOTE] Well good for her, because the Sharia law that applies to so many is a barbaric tradition.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;44612647]I assume it's because she seems to be following the train of thought that sharia law is "taking over" by having some guidelines reference it.[/QUOTE] They shouldn't even be referencing sharia law.

[QUOTE]In Britain’s 85 sharia courts and councils, she says, sharia “seeps” into enforcing divorce settlements, ignoring domestic violence and deciding access to children, all properly the preserve of British law. And that is why Lady Cox is determined to get her Arbitration and Mediation Services (Equality) Bill on to the statute book.[/QUOTE] Why the hell are sharia courts and councils allowed in the UK?

[QUOTE=Impact1986;44613754]Why the hell are sharia courts and councils allowed in the UK?[/QUOTE] Because they may be funded with people who heavily believe into Sharia Law?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44612566][img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02888/baroness-cox_2888417b.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That makes me moist.

What a hideous lady.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44612566][img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02888/baroness-cox_2888417b.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] A nice grandma to bake more cookies.

[QUOTE=Impact1986;44613754]Why the hell are sharia courts and councils allowed in the UK?[/QUOTE]Only in cases where it does not conflict with existing UK law, which is something that always seems to be something people neglect to mention.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;44613977]Only in cases where it does not conflict with existing UK law, which is something that always seems to be something people neglect to mention.[/QUOTE] It is still encouraging a bigoted and sexist culture.

[QUOTE=Sokrates;36588353][B]2. Do Muslims want Shariah to rule America?[/B] No. Remember, the Qur’an teaches that religion must not be a matter of the state. Shariah is a personal relationship with God. Prophet Muhammad, even as the de facto ruler of Arabia, wrote the Charter of Medina in which Muslims were held to Shariah Law, and Jews to the Law of the Torah. Not a single non-Muslim was held to Shariah because Shariah itself forbids compulsion. The Qur’an clearly says, “There is no compulsion in religion” (2:257). Furthermore, Shariah obliges Muslims to be loyal to their nation of residence. Therefore, American Muslims must adhere to the US Constitution as the supreme law of the land.[/quote] I remember this thread from a while back, so I wonder, are these Muslim countries listening to the actual rules of their law, or are they just making bullshit up and calling it Shariah much like bonkers Christians spout hateful nonsense because it's mentioned once in the Bible?

Someone raising genuine concern over Islam, and they're islamaphobic? What a fucking joke.

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[QUOTE=Jamsponge;44614183]I remember this thread from a while back, so I wonder, are these Muslim countries listening to the actual rules of their law, or are they just making bullshit up and calling it Shariah much like bonkers Christians spout hateful nonsense because it's mentioned once in the Bible?[/QUOTE] They're not loyal to the Qu'ran, they're loyal to the version of the Qu'ran that's preached to them. In some cases, that's a fantastic thing; in others, an awful one.

as john stewart said "we need a better expression for balls than...balls"

[QUOTE=capital;44616106]Someone raising genuine concern over Islam, and they're islamaphobic? What a fucking joke.[/QUOTE] Agreed. People have rights, ideas/ideologies don't.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44616280]as john stewart said "we need a better expression for balls than...balls"[/QUOTE] Nuts? Dangly bits? Male gonads?

[QUOTE=Craigewan;44612607]Because she's wanting to oppose sharia-compliant wills which deny women inheritance, so is being called islamophobic for it.[/QUOTE] But they don't though, they actually increase the amount of opportunities for women to be paid inheritance. If only people would read the guidelines the law society wrote...

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;44613416]They shouldn't even be referencing sharia law.[/QUOTE] Why? You have to remember that the guidelines as posted were just to help lawyers who were already drawing up wills conforming to sharia law, actually conform to it. People could already request whatever they wanted, these guidelines just help lawyers get it more accurate. A guy can already cut his daughter or wife (etc.) out of his inheritance for whatever reason, having the language of the will conform to a certain standard isn't going to change anything, the only reason people are upset about this is because it makes a reference to Islam.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44616280]as john stewart said "we need a better expression for balls than...balls"[/QUOTE] Chutzpah. Gall. Moxie.

[QUOTE=Craigewan;44612607]Because she's wanting to oppose sharia-compliant wills which deny women inheritance, so is being called islamophobic for it.[/QUOTE] Shit. I'm an Islamophobe. Opposing discrimination against women is a true fault of mine.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;44612647]I assume it's because she seems to be following the train of thought that sharia law is "taking over" by having some guidelines reference it.[/QUOTE] That's because the extremist form\aggressive form of Islam is taking over slowly in western society.