Nigel Farage is 'person of interest' in FBI investigation into Trump and Russia - Polidicks

[quote]Nigel Farage is a “person of interest” in the US counter-intelligence investigation that is looking into possible collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the Guardian has been told. Sources with knowledge of the investigation said the former Ukip leader had raised the interest of FBI investigators because of his relationships with individuals connected to both the Trump campaign and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder whom Farage visited in March. WikiLeaks published troves of hacked emails last year that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign and is suspected of having cooperated with Russia through third parties, according to recent congressional testimony by the former CIA director John Brennan, who also said the adamant denials of collusion by Assange and Russia were disingenuous. [B]Farage has not been accused of wrongdoing and is not a suspect or a target of the US investigation. But being a person of interest means investigators believe he may have information about the acts that are under investigation and he may therefore be subject to their scrutiny. [/B][/quote] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia[/url]

This puts a nice new halo of context around that photo of Farage and Trump posing together in front of the golden door. It'll be interesting to see what turns up, in the end.

Whoever comes after Trump needs to be able to bring back unity among NATO countries and western Europe. Putin is trying to tear democracy apart from the inside. The next president is going to inherit a cold war and Trump is only helping our enemy.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]Never in a million years could I have imagined that Russia, an economically, socially and democratically stagnant nation headed by out-of-touch ex-USSR officials could wage such an effective, secret campaign of informational war in the 21st century. After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness. This is legitimately something that I would expect from the US and its allies, and I am baffled how the West is still struggling to keep up with Russia after everything that has transpired. It's almost as if nobody cares enough to mount an effective counter-offensive against Russia's covert informational war operations against democracy itself. I guess most officials are yet to believe how deep the rabbit hole truly goes. What the fuck is happening tbh[/QUOTE]idk but it's a pretty freaky when you think about it

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]Never in a million years could I have imagined that Russia, an economically, socially and democratically stagnant nation headed by out-of-touch ex-USSR officials could wage such an effective, secret campaign of informational war in the 21st century. After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness. This is legitimately something that I would expect from the US and its allies, and I am baffled how the West is still struggling to keep up with Russia after everything that has transpired. It's almost as if nobody cares enough to mount an effective counter-offensive against Russia's covert informational war operations against democracy itself. I guess most officials are yet to believe how deep the rabbit hole truly goes. What the fuck is happening tbh[/QUOTE] The short answer is that the Russians often use perfectly legal channels of bribery in countries with opaque finance laws. Off shore accounts, vague campaign finance structures like PACs and SuperPACs, etc. make it easy for foreign agents to influence an election. On top of that, our entire country has become a nation of headline skimmers. The Russian government puts out hundreds of fake news sites with headlines about Hillary Clinton, they buy spambots on twitter and Reddit, and push headline after headline claiming Hillary is evil. Here's a diagram from CSIS's [I]The Kremlin Playbook: Understanding Russian Influence in Central and Eastern Europe[/I]: [t]http://i.imgur.com/D9IN4mI.jpg[/t]

Hopefully they'll find him something damning on Farage. It'd be great to see the fucker who tried to claim "Brexit" as being the British """independence day""" being shown to work to undermine Britain and Western countries. Though I do admit I'm biased - he's a cunt.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]Never in a million years could I have imagined that Russia, an economically, socially and democratically stagnant nation headed by out-of-touch ex-USSR officials could wage such an effective, secret campaign of informational war in the 21st century. After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness. This is legitimately something that I would expect from the US and its allies, and I am baffled how the West is still struggling to keep up with Russia after everything that has transpired. It's almost as if nobody cares enough to mount an effective counter-offensive against Russia's covert informational war operations against democracy itself. I guess most officials are yet to believe how deep the rabbit hole truly goes. What the fuck is happening tbh[/QUOTE] The KGB is running the Kremlin in the form of Putin and his cronies. They're more effective than any espionage organisation on Earth while that is the case.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]Never in a million years could I have imagined that Russia, an economically, socially and democratically stagnant nation headed by out-of-touch ex-USSR officials could wage such an effective, secret campaign of informational war in the 21st century. After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness. This is legitimately something that I would expect from the US and its allies, and I am baffled how the West is still struggling to keep up with Russia after everything that has transpired. It's almost as if nobody cares enough to mount an effective counter-offensive against Russia's covert informational war operations against democracy itself. I guess most officials are yet to believe how deep the rabbit hole truly goes. What the fuck is happening tbh[/QUOTE] Because a lot of the people in power are in it for themselves rather than to serve the country. I mean, top Republicans apparently knew Trump was taking money from the Russians and said nothing about it. Republican controlled Congress is largely resisting the removal of Trump because they are gaining something from him continuing to be in power. Plus, the war on intelligent thought that "the media" has been raging for years has destroyed a lot of people's ability to think critically about anything. Big business and politicians have been destroying this country for their own benefit in so many ways, and it's left the country far more open to outside attack. Plus, the internet has also made it extremely easy for people to hide inside their own bubble, only coming out to shit on their warped perception of the other side before running to hide again. This is relevant because it becomes an "us vs them" situation, rather than people caring about what's best for the country, or quite frankly themselves.

You know, this got me thinking. If a Trump/Russia/Farage conspiracy would come to light, maybe other nations' politicians could be implicated as well. I'm not saying that every far-right politician is a part of it, but weren't there stray rumours that Le Pen maybe had some strange connections as well? But what about other, smaller countries?

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness.[/QUOTE]what if that is exactly what makes them the most subtle and covert of all?

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness.[/QUOTE] Which is surprising, considering they have a history of being quite effective at it.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]Never in a million years could I have imagined that Russia, an economically, socially and democratically stagnant nation headed by out-of-touch ex-USSR officials could wage such an effective, secret campaign of informational war in the 21st century. After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness. This is legitimately something that I would expect from the US and its allies, and I am baffled how the West is still struggling to keep up with Russia after everything that has transpired. It's almost as if nobody cares enough to mount an effective counter-offensive against Russia's covert informational war operations against democracy itself. I guess most officials are yet to believe how deep the rabbit hole truly goes. What the fuck is happening tbh[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's as insanse as saying that backrow power was in control of world's most powerful strategic arsenal. Wait, what? Soviet Union always had world's leading intelligence apparatus easily rivaling and often exceeding US one in ability. The economic hardship during The Fall undoubtedly cut the capability somewhat, but there's little doubt that core competence remained. Now that a former intelligence officer has lead the country for sixteen years there should be hardly any doubt that said government organs get a priority in funding and that their ability is used to excercise influence as best they can. Now that the US president is an outspoken opponent of "the deep state" and as such both committed to undermining their operational capabilities by firing department head when convenient, his active seeking off-the-record cooperation with Russia should at least raise some questions. Which it incidentally does as can be read by the investigations being conducted at his cabinet. Now that this hasn't yet produced hard convictions is yet mostly because US institutions tend to follow the law that takes a while to execute instead of just having their opponents expeditiously jailed when they don't just spontaneously die.

[QUOTE=Marbalo;52299381]Never in a million years could I have imagined that Russia, an economically, socially and democratically stagnant nation headed by out-of-touch ex-USSR officials could wage such an effective, secret campaign of informational war in the 21st century. After all, Russia has never been known for its subtlety or covertness. This is legitimately something that I would expect from the US and its allies, and I am baffled how the West is still struggling to keep up with Russia after everything that has transpired. It's almost as if nobody cares enough to mount an effective counter-offensive against Russia's covert informational war operations against democracy itself. I guess most officials are yet to believe how deep the rabbit hole truly goes. What the fuck is happening tbh[/QUOTE] Nobody cares because politicians are too busy with lining their pockets and damage control.

jesus christ mccarthy was a nut but he might have been a nut on the right path

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52299410] Though I do admit I'm biased - he's a cunt.[/QUOTE] Everyone with half a brain is a bit biased towards Farage. He [I]is[/I] a cunt.

[QUOTE=Pissfuck;52308655]jesus christ mccarthy was a nut but he might have been a nut on the right path[/QUOTE] He was initially right, as soon as some declassified docs was revealed after the cold war from the soviet side proved it true, but then either his power went to his head or others abused this against enemies.