I'm wondering if I crossfire two 5570s, will it run newer games like Battlefield Bad Comapany 2 on full graphics no lagg. Or If I should just buy a new graphics card?
New one.
[QUOTE=sbradford26;21890603]New one.[/QUOTE]
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1 stronger card > 2 weaker cards that beat the stronger card when paired up.
I learned this the hard way. Went from 2 4850s to a 4870, and suddenly every game plays incredibly smoothly. More stable, too, somehow.
Get a 5970.
[QUOTE=Jimmg;21891520]Get a 5970.[/QUOTE]
That's over my spending limit =P
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;21891359]1 stronger card > 2 weaker cards that beat the stronger card when paired up.
I learned this the hard way. Went from 2 4850s to a 4870, and suddenly every game plays incredibly smoothly. More stable, too, somehow.[/QUOTE]
This makes no sense.
[QUOTE=Odellus;21895872]This makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
It makes perfect sense. If the game in question doesn't have a proper CF profile, or isn't designed specifically to take advantage of multiple GPUs, it will perform worse than on a single faster card.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;21896361]It makes perfect sense. If the game in question doesn't have a proper CF profile, or isn't designed specifically to take advantage of multiple GPUs, it will perform worse than on a single faster card.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but the gap between the 50 and the 70 isn't that large.
Get a 5770. It works beautifully.
[QUOTE=Zeraux;21897945]Get a 5770. It works beautifully.[/QUOTE]
Or the 4850. But go with the 5770 if you got the money.
I dont think low-end cards have the ability to crossfire.
the 5570 is an entry level card so...yeah, no CF
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;21898855]I dont think low-end cards have the ability to crossfire.
the 5570 is an entry level card so...yeah, no CF[/QUOTE]
I thought all of 5000-series had CF.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;21898855]I dont think low-end cards have the ability to crossfire.
the 5570 is an entry level card so...yeah, no CF[/QUOTE]
The 5770 is not entry it's mid range.
I think you mean the 56** or the 5750
If you are aiming for DX11 games, buy a GTX 470. Benchmarks have shown that GTX470 and 480 can perform exceptionally well than most ATI cards in DX11
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;21899207]If you are aiming for DX11 games, buy a GTX 470. Benchmarks have shown that GTX470 and 480 can perform exceptionally well than most ATI cards in DX11[/QUOTE]
What? I don't know what benchmarks you've been reading but the 470/480 performance is barely able to match a 5850/5870.
They also idle at 90C and chew up double or triple the power of an equivalent ATI card. Nvidia cards have never been good with performance per watt and have always basically been furnaces and power hogs.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;21896361]It makes perfect sense. If the game in question doesn't have a proper CF profile, or isn't designed specifically to take advantage of multiple GPUs, it will perform worse than on a single faster card.[/QUOTE]
Yeah okay name three games that don't which are mainstream. Yeah, you can't.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;21901969]What? I don't know what benchmarks you've been reading but the 470/480 performance is barely able to match a 5850/5870.
They also idle at 90C and chew up double or triple the power of an equivalent ATI card. Nvidia cards have never been good with performance per watt and have always basically been furnaces and power hogs.[/QUOTE]
When it comes to tessellation the 480/470 blows away the 5850 and 5870 cards. All other type of performance is equal.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;21901969]What? I don't know what benchmarks you've been reading but the 470/480 performance is barely able to match a 5850/5870.
They also idle at 90C and chew up double or triple the power of an equivalent ATI card. Nvidia cards have never been good with performance per watt and have always basically been furnaces and power hogs.[/QUOTE]
Oh ho ho wow what the fuck? The 470 and 480 are both respectively better than their ATI counterparts (albeit not much in certain titles), and way better in DX11 (the 470 surpasses the 5870).
They don't idle at 90C, they don't even load at 90C, and they use about 30% more power. Hey remember the GTX 2 series and the ATI 4 series? Yeah, pretty much the reverse of what's happening now.
I think the OP clearly wrote [highlight] 5570 [/highlight] which as far as I know is entry level. and therefore has no CF abilities.
:derp:
what
[QUOTE=Odellus;21902879]Yeah okay name three games that don't which are mainstream. Yeah, you can't.[/QUOTE]
Splinter Cell: Conviction.
Cryostasis (Apparently)
The Saboteur.
Among many others. In Conviction, not only did it stutter like hell, but it crashed every 2 minutes. Now with the 4870, it's stable and it runs all maxed out with no crashing.
Cryostasis just didn't even run on the 4850s on lowest settings. It lagged hardcore. Now, it runs at almost max settings with a great FPS.
The Saboteur also kept crashing, and now it is stable.
Mostly stability fixes, but the 4870 does outperform the 4850 in quite a few games that I tried. Keep in mind that I have a Rampage Formula, which has an X48 chipset, so both PCI-E slots are going at 16x.
And no, the GTX480s aren't a good buy at all. You get a bit more FPS at the price of much higher temperatures and a ton more power used. Not worth it. nVidia fucked up, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;21891359]1 stronger card > 2 weaker cards that beat the stronger card when paired up.
I learned this the hard way. Went from 2 4850s to a 4870, and suddenly every game plays incredibly smoothly. More stable, too, somehow.[/QUOTE]
You sure you didnt have a 16x by 4x PCIe slots?
[QUOTE=tommyc225;21905328]You sure you didnt have a 16x by 4x PCIe slots?[/QUOTE]
X48 chipset, so no.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;21905267]Splinter Cell: Conviction.
Cryostasis (Apparently)
The Saboteur.
Among many others. In Conviction, not only did it stutter like hell, but it crashed every 2 minutes. Now with the 4870, it's stable and it runs all maxed out with no crashing.
Cryostasis just didn't even run on the 4850s on lowest settings. It lagged hardcore. Now, it runs at almost max settings with a great FPS.
The Saboteur also kept crashing, and now it is stable.
Mostly stability fixes, but the 4870 does outperform the 4850 in quite a few games that I tried. Keep in mind that I have a Rampage Formula, which has an X48 chipset, so both PCI-E slots are going at 16x.
And no, the GTX480s aren't a good buy at all. You get a bit more FPS at the price of much higher temperatures and a ton more power used. Not worth it. nVidia fucked up, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Cryostasis and The Saboteur aren't mainstream.
And of course the 4870 outperforms the 4850, durp.
Yes, the GTX 480 is a good buy if you have the budget for it, which this guy possibly does.
Stop with the fucking temperature and power shit. In most cases, if you turn the fan to 60% which is still quieter than the 5870, you will load at around 65-70 Celsius, and it uses ~30% more power than the 5870.
Why do people cry like babies when it comes to temperatures? If it runs, it runs as far as I'm concerned. Also power consumption is just a pointless argument, unless you want to save a few cents of the electric bill per year.
[QUOTE=Odellus;21905367]Cryostasis and The Saboteur aren't mainstream.
And of course the 4870 outperforms the 4850, durp.
Yes, the GTX 480 is a good buy if you have the budget for it, which this guy possibly does.
Stop with the fucking temperature and power shit. In most cases, if you turn the fan to 60% which is still quieter than the 5870, you will load at around 65-70 Celsius, and it uses ~30% more power than the 5870.[/QUOTE]
Right, I'm sorry I don't pick out shitty mainstream games that I don't play for the sake of the argument. I'm picking out what I play, which is what matters. I give up on multi-GPU setups in general. Feel free to baww about my opinion.
And the temperature and power consumption may not matter to you, but it matters a lot to people who overclock. The 480's fan is extremely loud, at 60% it's a fucking wind tunnel. You gain higher temperatures and more than a 30% increase of power usage for 5-10 FPS difference in most games. Not worth it.
Alas, there's no hope of this argument going anywhere. You seem to defend nVidia to the death, so I'll just back off now before you get all emotional.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;21905547]Right, I'm sorry I don't pick out shitty mainstream games that I don't play for the sake of the argument. I'm picking out what I play, which is what matters. I give up on multi-GPU setups in general. Feel free to baww about my opinion.
And the temperature and power consumption may not matter to you, but it matters a lot to people who overclock. The 480's fan is extremely loud, at 60% it's a fucking wind tunnel. You gain higher temperatures and more than a 30% increase of power usage for 5-10 FPS difference in most games. Not worth it.
Alas, there's no hope of this argument going anywhere. You seem to defend nVidia to the death, so I'll just back off now before you get all emotional.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, it doesn't matter what you play, it matters what the majority plays. I wasn't insulting your game choice, they're just not common.
Read: the temperatures are equivalent to that of the 5870 when you turn the fan to 60%.
Since you can't seem to grasp the concept that the GTX 480 is not a hot plate with a couple of 500mm fans strapped to it:
[hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbP9QZOPJPY[/hd]
[hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVEhyfbeDSg[/hd]
[hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBU1EFLnvdg[/hd]
Good job pulling personal shit into a civilized argument.
I'm not just defending NVIDIA, I'm defending ATI as well, if you care to check my posts, I'm even going to be running 4890 Crossfire.
I defend something when I believe someone is slandering a product or company's name for biased or ignorant reasons, which you have.
You haven't spoken of the noise levels or the power consumption. You only talked about temperatures.
Consider yourself beat.
[QUOTE=SA Spyder;21906142]You haven't spoken of the noise levels or the power consumption. You only talked about temperatures.
Consider yourself beat.[/QUOTE]
What? Click the YouTube video links and I mentioned it before I linked to them.
I don't need to talk about power consumption, if you're spending $500 on a graphics card you have an ample power supply.
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