[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34665539[/url]
[quote]China has decided to end its decades-long one-child policy, the state-run Xinhua news agency reports.
Couples will now be allowed to have two children, it said, citing a statement from the Communist Party.
The controversial policy was introduced nationally in 1979, to slow the population growth rate.
It is estimated to have prevented about 400 million births. However concerns at China's ageing population led to pressure for change.[/quote]
Seems a bit too late, I can't see China easily escaping the demographic crisis it has inadvertently backed into. Much of their economic miracle was built off the backs of hundreds of millions of young Chinese, so it'll be interesting to see the future where their numbers are shrinking.
This is actually pretty big for China.
Well, I don't think this will solve any problem.
If anything, the population will be mostly elders and babies/toddlers for quite a while.
More pressure on the young adults.
The question is will it have much of any effect? I dunno how keen are Chinese with whole "creating a family" concept.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;49008194]This is actually pretty big for China.[/QUOTE]
They simply shifted from a one child policy (for which they started introducing loads of exceptions to) to a two child policy. I don't see that doing much (if at all) to boost fertility rates.
When Singapore got rid of their one-child policy, birth rates didn't really recover at all and remains well below the replacement rate.
I feel like the vast majority of chinese people are still going to strongly prefer to have 2 sons over a son and a daughter, so I really don't see this changing that problem at all.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;49008238]I feel like the vast majority of chinese people are still going to strongly prefer to have 2 sons over a son and a daughter, so I really don't see this changing that problem at all.[/QUOTE]
It'll probably make the problem worse. The whole notion of having all boys for kids is preposterous. I feel for all them when they grow up and there's not a single woman in sight for them to forge relationships with
[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;49008253]It'll probably make the problem worse. The whole notion of having all boys for kids is preposterous. I feel for all them when they grow up and there's not a single woman in sight for them to forge relationships with[/QUOTE]
The concept is if I am not fully unsure simply just that men work, and that also should mean when you are old your son(s) will work and provide you while working.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;49008263]The concept is if I am not fully unsure simply just that men work, and that also should mean when you are old your son(s) will work and provide you while working.[/QUOTE]
Not just that, but it comes from the antiquated idea that it's important to carry on your family's surname and have it last forever. But... that's only possible if your son can actually find a wife in a sea of men.
[QUOTE=lilguy;49008279]Not just that, but it comes from the antiquated idea that it's important to carry on your family's surname and have it last forever. But... that's only possible if your son can actually find a wife in a sea of men.[/QUOTE]
Or as taking Japan for example even bother, people don't bother with marriage and so on because it is economically unwise.
-snip ninja'd-
Their one child policy may sound crazy and all, but at the end I don't think the country would be able to handle those extra 400 million people. That would make around 2 billion people in China by 2030. It would have probably lead to hunger, massive exodus, and probably force them to a territorial expansion aka war with their neighboring countries.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;49008290]Or as taking Japan for example even bother, people don't bother with marriage and so on because it is economically unwise.[/QUOTE]
Wonder if they'll ever have to resort to financially incentivizing their citizens to have children to boost their birth rates.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;49008206]The question is will it have much of any effect? I dunno how keen are Chinese with whole "creating a family" concept.[/QUOTE]
family life is pretty much the entire centerpiece of chinese culture.
you have children so they can take care of you and have children so they can take care of them etc.
it's actually quite a selfish system when you think about it
[QUOTE=AntonioR;49008356]Their one child policy may sound crazy and all, but at the end I don't think the country would be able to handle those extra 400 million people. That would make around 2 billion people in China by 2030. It would have probably lead to hunger, massive exodus, and probably force them to a territorial expansion aka war with their neighboring countries.[/QUOTE]
dont they have a huge area to the west that's sparsely populated?
[QUOTE=Toyhobo;49008486]dont they have a huge area to the west that's sparsely populated?[/QUOTE]
I believe that's a desert?
Plus, people don't want to relocate and move away from the convenience of urban centers.
[QUOTE=lilguy;49008440]Wonder if they'll ever have to resort to financially incentivizing their citizens to have children to boost their birth rates.[/QUOTE]
Considering they're 200 years away from matching the population density of the US and 400 years away from matching the population density of canada, and that's if they keep decreasing at the same rate with no change, and they're still the most overpopulated first world country in the world...
No time soon, if they do.
just so everyone knows but the 1-child policy was horrendously flawed even in its upkeep
there were a lot of loopholes in it that people abused to have more than one, so all the policy did was create a generation of ultra spoiled single children(also applies for mega-rich Saudi/American families)
Step 1. Eliminate the one-child policy
Step 2. Convert them all to Mormonism so they can have a million kids and take over the gene pool.
My plans are falling into place.
[QUOTE=lilguy;49008496]I believe that's a desert?
Plus, people don't want to relocate and move away from the convenience of urban centers.[/QUOTE]
See: Australia
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/111996868/2015-2/Crap/australia.gif[/IMG]
Just because there's oxygen doesn't mean it's habitable.
[QUOTE=Combine 177;49008206]The question is will it have much of any effect? I dunno how keen are Chinese with whole "creating a family" concept.[/QUOTE]
if you're a guy and haven't came in a vag by the time you're 40 you're pretty much close to garbage in china
[editline]29th October 2015[/editline]
oops, i meant came in a vag with Y sperm
[QUOTE=CoixNiro;49008519]Considering they're 200 years away from matching the population density of the US and 400 years away from matching the population density of canada, and that's if they keep decreasing at the same rate with no change, and they're still the most overpopulated first world country in the world...
No time soon, if they do.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, most of the canadian population is located near the US border, IIRC
The most important thing about this: They'll bang ok?
[QUOTE=lintz;49008443]
it's actually quite a selfish system when you think about it[/QUOTE]
Why is that selfish?
It has been for ages and tbh still is like that to a lesser degree in the whole western world too.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49008207]They simply shifted from a one child policy (for which they started introducing loads of exceptions to) to a two child policy. I don't see that doing much (if at all) to boost fertility rates.
When Singapore got rid of their one-child policy, birth rates didn't really recover at all and remains well below the replacement rate.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me but we didn't have a one child policy here. It's more like a family planning campaign that was successful...too successful.
[QUOTE=proch;49009702]Why is that selfish?
It has been for ages and tbh still is like that to a lesser degree in the whole western world too.[/QUOTE]
you have a kid not because you want to raise one, but because it's tradition and because they're expected to take care of you when you're old
that leads to some kids being treated more like social security than an actual person
[QUOTE=Jund;49011599]you have a kid not because you want to raise one, but because it's tradition and because they're expected to take care of you when you're old
that leads to some kids being treated more like social security than an actual person[/QUOTE]
But isn't the whole idea of a family, you know, to take care of each other, to help out and stuff ? In the cold way you say it you could call kid's parents social security too until it's independant, then it's just logical that the kid "pays up".
[QUOTE=AntonioR;49011824]But isn't the whole idea of a family, you know, to take care of each other, to help out and stuff ? In the cold way you say it you could call kid's parents social security too until it's independant, then it's just logical that the kid "pays up".[/QUOTE]
yeah but in some cases it's not anything past that. it's not done out of love, but out of obligation. and if you fail that obligation you're ostracized from society
like you gotta understand that i'm not trying to making it seem cold, that's how it actually is
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49008207]They simply shifted from a one child policy (for which they started introducing loads of exceptions to) to a two child policy. I don't see that doing much (if at all) to boost fertility rates.
When Singapore got rid of their one-child policy, birth rates didn't really recover at all and remains well below the replacement rate.[/QUOTE]
Since when the fuck was it a one child policy
Its called 'stop at two'
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