Australian Same Sex Marriage returns results: 61.6% Yes, 38.4% No, with a 79.5% Turnout
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[url]https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/nov/15/australias-same-sex-marriage-postal-survey-results-live[/url]
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The prime minister is scheduled to hold a press conference at 10.15am. He’ll be speaking with Mathias Cormann.
The results are starting to come in by electorate. Turnbull’s electorate of Wentworth delivered a staggering result for the yes camp. It returned an 80% yes vote. Just 19.2% of Turnbull’s electorate voted no.
Tony Abbott’s electorate of Warringah voted 75% yes.
Malcolm Turnbull says Australians have voted “overwhelmingly yes” for fairness and commitment.
“We asked the Australian public for their view. This was an unprecedented exercise in democracy. A voluntary survey in which 80% participated and 61.6% have said yes. That is an overwhelming participation rate and an overwhelming yes vote. I know many people -a minority obviously - voted no. But we are a fair nation. There is nothing more Australian than a fair go... equality and mutual respect, and everyone has had their say.”
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Never forget what led us here, but we should celebrate nonetheless. We voted yes!
Way more divide then I expected, I saw the No campaign everywhere.
Here's an interactive map showing the breakdown of the vote by electorate:
[url]https://interactive.guim.co.uk/testing/2017/11/aus-ssm-voting-outcome/embed/embed.html[/url]
QLD and Western Sydney proving themselves once again to be redneck country, no surprises there
[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;52890728]Way more divide then I expected, I saw the No campaign everywhere.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the No Campaign shit was really gross. It was posters that basically just said 'Think of the Children!', I don't understand how that level of bullshit is even legal? It's literally just a bunch of made up shit.
Anyway I'm so glad Yes won, but I wish it was higher than 61%. A win's a win but 39% no is still huge, and messed up that so many people are bigoted and selfish whether they realise it or not.
Melbourne was 83.7% yes, that's dope.
I was expecting a slimmer margin with the young person voter apathy and the stupidity repeated by both the yes and no campaign.
Glad to be wrong.
[QUOTE=download;52890746]I was expecting a slimmer margin with the young person voter apathy and the stupidity repeated by both the yes and no campaign.
Glad to be wrong.[/QUOTE]
the no campaign's stupidity was of far greater severity, but you were right about young person voter apathy. It's almost as if doing a survey by mail doesn't attract a lot of young people?
[QUOTE=download;52890746]I was expecting a slimmer margin with the young person voter apathy and the stupidity repeated by both the yes and no campaign.
Glad to be wrong.[/QUOTE]
I think young people's passion on the issue outweighed any potential apathy to the vote. i don't know a single person of voting age that didn't vote
What has to be remembered is those people who voted no in protest of the referendum being pointless. I hope there weren't too many of them.
Suck shit tony u dumb cunt
[QUOTE=kylejburke;52890756]What has to be remembered is those people who voted no in protest of the referendum being pointless. I hope there weren't too many of them.[/QUOTE]
Also the people who voted no because "they didn't like seeing it so much on facebook"
[QUOTE=Rusty100;52890734]Melbourne was 83.7% yes, that's dope.[/QUOTE]
Similar for Sydney, glad to see we're not as bigoted as I thought. Granted, I can't say the same for the rest of NSW.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;52890752]I think young people's passion on the issue outweighed any potential apathy to the vote. i don't know a single person of voting age that didn't vote[/QUOTE]
I didn't, but that's because I live in an apartment block and they just didn't give us our ballots.
I'm genuinely surprised that my electorate was 51-49 in favour, we've been pretty strongly right-wing with a string of Libnat MPs and 1 in 5 people voting One Nation last election.
Hah, good to know my area (Freemantle) was 70% yes votes, makes me feel slightly better about living in boganville.
Just as well this vote passed for a yes, though. I'm a gay dude myself but my bf and I don't really care for marriage. Still, having the option is definitely nice, and more than that I love the idea of how many shitty bigoted homophobes will be crying about this. But then again, I'm a petty bitch like that.
I think, though, had this somehow turned out with a "No" vote, there'd be some pretty harsh kickback from the community. So it's just as well that it came out this way.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;52890733]Here's an interactive map showing the breakdown of the vote by electorate:
[url]https://interactive.guim.co.uk/testing/2017/11/aus-ssm-voting-outcome/embed/embed.html[/url]
QLD and Western Sydney proving themselves once again to be redneck country, no surprises there[/QUOTE]
My electorate voted 60% in favour and that's really good considering it takes up most of Ipswich and than has some rural suburbs in between
[QUOTE=killerteacup;52890782]Also the people who voted no because "they didn't like seeing it so much on facebook"[/QUOTE]
A part of me hates these people more than the religious folk's bullshit, because that's such a petty and cuntish reason to vote no.
[QUOTE=fredstin22;52891182]Hopefully now people will shut up about it. What a huge fucking waste of money.[/QUOTE]
The fight won't end. There's still the bill itself which in its current form is terrible, conservatives are fighting tooth and nail for """religious freedoms""" which will do more harm than good. I just think it's naive to expect everyone to shut up
our electorate in melb is practically the only one around that voted no
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why does my state have to be so bogan? glad it passed with such a good margin though
[QUOTE=Bradyns;52891472]:pride: :pride: :pride: Newwy was 75/25 - Yes/No. :pride: :pride: :pride:[/QUOTE]
fuck yeah my hometown
As great as this is, you gotta admit.
It's pretty gay...
In all seriousness, let's hope the Government actually goes through with this, and uses an actual good Bill for it and not the shit ones we got.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;52890733]Here's an interactive map showing the breakdown of the vote by electorate:
[url]https://interactive.guim.co.uk/testing/2017/11/aus-ssm-voting-outcome/embed/embed.html[/url]
QLD and Western Sydney proving themselves once again to be redneck country, no surprises there[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that the massive chunk of blue in Queensland is literally two giant, empty electorates. They both only make up about 6% of the state's population :V
Overall we still polled higher for yes than NSW
[QUOTE=Xonax;52892129]As great as this is, you gotta admit.
It's pretty gay...
In all seriousness, let's hope the Government actually goes through with this, and uses an actual good Bill for it and not the shit ones we got.[/QUOTE]
Of course the government will go through with it. Turnbull was always for marriage equality, and even some MPs who are personally against marriage equality, such as Ian Goodenough, will be respecting the survey by voting in the affirmative for marriage equality legislation.
The Smith bill is very reasonable and has the backing of Turnbull and most of the Liberals, as well as Labor and the Greens.
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[QUOTE=fredstin22;52891182]Hopefully now people will shut up about it. What a huge fucking waste of money.[/QUOTE]
In the end, I don't think it was really a waste of money. Sure, it shouldn't have been taken to a survey, but at least the LGBT community can own the outcome of the vote, with its strong mandate for marriage equality. As opposed to eg how marriage equality in the US was enacted by their Supreme Court.
[QUOTE=BF;52892239]Of course the government will go through with it. Turnbull was always for marriage equality, and even some MPs who are personally against marriage equality, such as Ian Goodenough, will be respecting the survey by voting in the affirmative for marriage equality legislation.
The Smith bill is very reasonable and has the backing of Turnbull and most of the Liberals, as well as Labor and the Greens.
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In the end, I don't think it was really a waste of money. Sure, it shouldn't have been taken to a survey, but at least the LGBT community can own the outcome of the vote, with its strong mandate for marriage equality. As opposed to eg how marriage equality in the US was enacted by their Supreme Court.[/QUOTE]
The Smith Bill is the best one we got, it is reasonable to a degree yes, but it could be worse, I am willing to settle for it myself but you know, could also be better.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;52890752]I think young people's passion on the issue outweighed any potential apathy to the vote. i don't know a single person of voting age that didn't vote[/QUOTE]
I didn't
I'm curious what your conservative politicians will say following this. Will they just be like fuck the popular vote my bigotry is more important, or
like what can you [I]say[/I]
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52893429]I'm curious what your conservative politicians will say following this. Will they just be like fuck the popular vote my bigotry is more important, or
like what can you [I]say[/I][/QUOTE]
Most of them are saying they will vote yes on the conservative bill or abstain otherwise - the conservative bill was dropped yesterday so they wi vote yes if they feel it has enoigh loopholes to allow for discrimination and they wi abstain otherwise
Be ready to be forced to marry your new gay lover cunts because this is the world you live in now. Your children will be married cross-generationally to pedophiles just a fact look it up.
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Remember the day Canada fell due to the outbreak of gay? it's about to happen to the US and it will happen to your country too
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52893429]I'm curious what your conservative politicians will say following this. Will they just be like fuck the popular vote my bigotry is more important, or
like what can you [I]say[/I][/QUOTE]
[quote]No campaigner Lyle Shelton, from the Coalition for Marriage, called it a disappointing result but said his group accepted and respected the decision of the Australian people.[/quote]
[quote]Former prime minister Tony Abbott said the Parliament should "respect the result".[/quote]
[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-15/same-sex-marriage-australia-says-yes-to-ssm/9150344[/url]
[quote]One of Western Australia's most prominent No supporters in the same-sex marriage campaign has refused to back the result, vowing to abstain when a vote is taken to amend the Marriage Act.
Federal member for Canning Andrew Hastie acknowledged the country had voted decisively in favour of same-sex marriage, with 62 per cent in favour of changing the law nationally and 38 per cent against.
The national result was echoed in Mr Hastie's own electorate, where more than 60 per cent voted Yes to change to the definition of marriage.
But he said he was still personally opposed to any change and would not vote for the bill presented before Federal Parliament.
"Out of respect for the Australian people, I will not be voting against the legislation to change the Marriage Act," Mr Hastie said in a statement.
"Rather, as I have previously said on the public record, [b]it is my intention to abstain because I cannot vote against my conscience.[/b]
"The outcome of the legislative change is assured: [b]my abstention will not obstruct the passage of same-sex marriage[/b]."[/quote]
[quote]Federal Member for the WA electorate of Moore, Ian Goodenough, was one of the Government's staunchest opponents of same-sex marriage, throwing his support behind a rival bill that would have enshrined "expansive protections" for so-called religious freedoms if same-sex marriage was made legal.
The bill, which was rejected by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, would have enshrined anti-discrimination provisions for certain groups opposed to same-sex marriage.
[b]In the survey results released on Wednesday, Mr Goodenough's electorate returned one of the highest Yes votes in WA, a result he promised he would reflect in his vote in Parliament[/b].[/quote]
[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-15/wa-politicians-to-ignore-same-sex-marriage-result/9154656[/url]
Just a few examples from the conservative side of politics.
How about, instead of perpetuating the dumb 'us versus them' mentality, you take a moment to read up about how conservatives responded to the outcome, and realise that virtually all of them are accepting the vote?
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[QUOTE=killerteacup;52893638]Most of them are saying they will vote yes on the conservative bill or abstain otherwise - the conservative bill was dropped yesterday so they wi vote yes if they feel it has enoigh loopholes to allow for discrimination and they wi abstain otherwise[/QUOTE]
Considering Labor, the Greens and moderate Liberals are supporting the Smith bill in its current form, I seriously doubt that dumb amendments will be made to the bill.
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