Tunisia builds a barrier along its border with Libya - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/l4t3.jpg[/img] [url]https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tunisia-completes-barrier-conflict-hit-libya-202303888.html[/url] [quote]Tunisia on Saturday completed the construction of a barrier along its border with Libya, months after attacks on its national museum and a beach resort that killed dozens of tourists. Defence Minister Farhat Horchani told reporters that the construction of berms and water-filled trenches marks "an important day" for Tunisia in its struggle against "terrorism". Two attacks claimed by the Islamic State group last year killed 59 foreign tourists, with Tunisian officials saying the assailants had trained in conflict-ridden Libya where IS is active. "Tunisia is capable of fighting against terrorism in an active and efficient way," Horchani said during a tour of the barrier. It stretches some 200 kilometres (124 miles) from Ras Jedir on the Mediterranean coast to Dhiba further southwest, across about half the length of the frontier between the two neighbours. Horchani said a second phase of the project will include installing electronic equipment with the help of Germany and the United States.[/quote]

That doesnt seem that hard to cross.

[QUOTE=Occlusion;49690101]That doesnt seem that hard to cross.[/QUOTE] Well, unless its in the article somewhere, we don't know how wide / deep it is because we have nothing in the picture to compare it to, it very well could be 30-40 feet wide and 10-20 feet deep.

Most nations build fences but I suppose a moat still works

And are they going to make Libya pay for it?

Ah yes, water and sand do so much to stop advancing forces, as we saw in the October war.:smug:

[QUOTE=Zombinie;49690319]Ah yes, water and sand do so much to stop advancing forces, as we saw in the October war.:smug:[/QUOTE] Idk, that looks like a hell of an obstacle for a vehicle, to me. Probably more effective than a wall that can simply be blown to pieces.

Depending how wide it is, a group of men can easily put a bunch of boards across it and get across, and depending on the materials they use, potentially a vehicle as well. Hopefully the moat is 8 to 10 feet wide (3 to 4 meters).

[QUOTE=Zombinie;49690319]Ah yes, water and sand do so much to stop advancing forces, as we saw in the October war.:smug:[/QUOTE] That looks like a pain in the ass for a non-professional army to cross quickly.

[QUOTE=Occlusion;49690101]That doesnt seem that hard to cross.[/QUOTE] I don't get why people still think these things are only physical, they're psychological. It's not about being able to get past it, of course you could cross it if you really wanted too, much like climbing a wall jumping over a fence.

Tunisia is one of the only North African nations that have actually had a great outcome from the Arab Spring. And if building a moat will help keep ISIS out and keep them stable, good on them.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49690424]. Hopefully the moat is 8 to 10 feet wide (3 to 4 meters).[/QUOTE] It looks like it is to me. I'm sure the Tunisian gov isnt retarded enough to make a moat and leave it small and easy to cross

[QUOTE=Araknid;49690426]That looks like a pain in the ass for a non-professional army to cross quickly.[/QUOTE] With the right materials and willpower, groups of men will be able to get across any border. The only real thing that will prevent large incursions is border patrols, which I hope Tunisia follows up with. [editline]7th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=VOSK;49690435]Tunisia is one of the only North African nations that have actually had a great outcome from the Arab Spring. And if building a moat will help keep ISIS out and keep them stable, good on them.[/QUOTE] I feel that their success is due to them being the first to roll into that. After the original Tunisian government gave up to the protests, other governments saw how effective the movement was and clamped down harder on it, which lead to more conflict when the Arab Spring spread to other nations.

[QUOTE=Araknid;49690441]It looks like it is to me. I'm sure the Tunisian gov isnt retarded enough to make a moat and leave it small and easy to cross[/QUOTE] It's a deterrent much like putting a pad lock on a shed door is.

[QUOTE=Toro;49690131]Well, unless its in the article somewhere, we don't know how wide / deep it is because we have nothing in the picture to compare it to, it very well could be 30-40 feet wide and 10-20 feet deep.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2016/2/7/f3ce15209802462f9d4260e64fd1caad_18.jpg[/IMG]

Now they just need to build a wall and start flying drones over it!

Seems like a cost effective way to make a massive barrier. Most likely designed to slow an attempt to cross long enough for security forces to intervene.

[QUOTE=Ajacks;49690702]Seems like a cost effective way to make a massive barrier. Most likely designed to slow an attempt to cross long enough for security forces to intervene.[/QUOTE] Given the second phase apparently involves some kind of electronic surveillance system going up, I assume that is the case.

Now plant exotic plants all along one side of the border, so it looks like the other country's a paradise :v:

[QUOTE=jamzzster;49690627][IMG]http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2016/2/7/f3ce15209802462f9d4260e64fd1caad_18.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Looks like they could probably take a small frame of metal and drive across. Or otherwise jump if not in a vehicle. What a joke.

[QUOTE=AnonymaPizza;49690889]Looks like they could probably take a small frame of metal and drive across. Or otherwise jump if not in a vehicle. What a joke.[/QUOTE] Still an inconvenience to whoever wants to cross, its clearly not meant to stop people, just slow their progress or turn them away.

I am going assume it meant to slow down vehicles and not people. That or give a surprise dunking to those wandering about in the dark without night vision goggles.

I'd assume it is to stop any flow of supplies/arms, rather than just people. Besides it still increases the time and effort needed to smuggle shit in.

Unless a group is willing to repair any damage done by their crossing, it's also a good measure for where and when activity is happening along the length of the border. Tied into a U.S./Germany security system, it'l do the job of a deterrent rather than a conventional barrier as it's supposed to.

Idk what Germany's contribution is but I hear Florida is keen to share their alligator technology with them to stock the mote

[QUOTE=AnonymaPizza;49690889]Looks like they could probably take a small frame of metal and drive across. Or otherwise jump if not in a vehicle. What a joke.[/QUOTE] The perspective on that image still doesn't really tell how wide/deep it is.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;49692335]The perspective on that image still doesn't really tell how wide/deep it is.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/Gfk7HJM.png[/img] More than likely off by a bit, but it seems reasonably wide/deep. Better image (~Last Nov. ?): [img]http://i.imgur.com/XF12Jf9.jpg[/img]

I guess that water won't last ling in the dessert.

Well at least it isn't a mine field.......

Now all they need are millions of desert alligators [editline]8th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Grocel;49693675]I guess that water won't last ling in the dessert.[/QUOTE] Mmm dessert