Cliff Bleszinski defends Former Microsoft exec Adam Orth and always-online - Polidicks

[quote=DigitalSpy] Cliff Bleszinski believes that always-online devices will become the norm sooner rather than later. Commenting on the recent resignation of Microsoft creative director Adam Orth, Bleszinski said that he was disgusted that people would celebrate a person losing their job. Before resigning, Orth caused offense across the internet when addressing the issue of consoles requiring an always-on internet connection, telling users to "deal with it" or relocate if they live in an area with poor network coverage. Microsoft issued an apology for Orth's remarks last week, deeming them "inappropriate" and making it clear that they do not reflect the beliefs of the company. Writing on his blog, Cliff Bleszinski said: "Now, I don't know as much as you'd think I know about Microsoft's future plans. Even if I did I wouldn't go blogging about it like some sort of fool. "My gut is telling me that an always online future is probably coming. It's coming fast, and possibly to the majority of the devices you enjoy. Adam's analogies weren't that far off; although the vacuum one was kind of weird. "SimCity, with all of its troubles on launch, seems to be selling briskly. Diablo 3, the poster child of a messy launch, is estimated to be at 12 million units. (Remember the internet rage over the art style shift? I barely do. But it seemed so important at the time!) "I would bet money that without the always online elements of Diablo 3 that it would have sold half of that." Bleszinski went on to say that there's a whole new generation of gamers that has grown up with the internet, and that people would likely accept an always online future if the ecosystem of that device was fantastic. [/quote] [url="http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a472824/cliff-bleszinski-defends-microsoft-exec-adam-orth-and-always-online.html"]Source[/url]. Here is a link to the [url="http://dudehugespeaks.tumblr.com/post/47725362941/deal-with-it"]blog post[/url].

Of course he does. He's a douche.

[quote]"SimCity, with all of its troubles on launch, seems to be selling briskly."[/quote] And in 2013 as long as a game sells well, the customer can go to hell as far as the publisher is concerned.

Cliffy you stopped being relevant after Gears 2, stop talking.

"I would bet money that without the always online elements of Diablo 3 that it would have sold half of that." Hope he doesn't play Poker.

Why is it that he can make a great comment like the Bioshock Infinite and Roger Ebert death thing, and then go back to being a complete dumbfuck?

[QUOTE=Fangz;40257988] For those who don't know, Cliff Bleszinski works for Microsoft Game Studios and was behind the Gears of War series.[/QUOTE] Uh, no he doesn't. He worked at Epic Games up until recently but he quit last year stating that he needed a break from the industry. He never worked for Microsoft Game Studios.

I didn't like Cliff Bleszinski anyway, what shocked me a bit was JC2 developer [url=https://twitter.com/CHSundberg]Christofer Sundberg[/url] agreeing with him: [img]http://puu.sh/2yO2K[/img]

"You're all entitled pirates get with the times restricting how you play is good" - CliffyB

God I regret buying Diablo III so much. If I could return it I would do it in a heartbeat.

[QUOTE=Robber;40258106]I didn't like Cliff Bleszinski anyway, what shocked me a bit was JC2 developer [/QUOTE] That doesn't sound good for JC3

It boggles my mind so many people defend always online

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40258029]And in 2013 as long as a game sells well, the customer can go to hell as far as the publisher is concerned.[/QUOTE] ...wait, are you saying that a company based around making money is bad for doing things which make them money? In their eyes, whether a product is "good" or not is based on their profit, so if SimCity sold well, obviously devs are going to look at it in a favorable light. Vote with your wallets

And to think Cliff used to be ok

[QUOTE=Ericson666;40258355]Vote with your wallets[/QUOTE] oh boy, this garbage again. [video=youtube;N7krw5mVP_M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7krw5mVP_M[/video]

I think he's got quite some good points, but usually he just seems to talk garbage and pro-business.

[QUOTE=Pikachu231;40258057]Why is it that he can make a great comment like the Bioshock Infinite and Roger Ebert death thing, and then go back to being a complete dumbfuck?[/QUOTE] But, that was a douchey comment too. It was one final jab at someone who couldnt answer back.

[quote]"I would bet money that without the always online elements of Diablo 3 that it would have sold half of that."[/quote] Yeah because then it would've faded into obscurity instead of getting all this fucking press which only nets them more sales.

Guys I hate always online so I'm gonna buy the new xbox anyway and then complain about it. You better be ready Micro$oft.

LOL so this is what his life has come to, being unemployed and defending extremely poor quality people/corporations just to remind the media that he still exists. fuck off, faux hawk man.

[QUOTE=KILLTHIS;40258399]I think he's got quite some good points, but usually he just seems to talk garbage and pro-business.[/QUOTE] Well I imagine this is how a sizable portion of the industry thinks, considering that several other developers agree with him. What's good for the industry isn't necessarily good for the consumer, and vice versa, so unless you're in the industry you don't really hear much about how they think. I love hearing about stuff like this, even if I might not agree

I'm up for an always-online service if it's more than DRM. I don't ever use my Xbox if my internet is out anyway. Some offline options would be nice, but I don't think they're necessary. There's always going to be games that don't require online, plus mobile games are a ton of fun. I have to agree with CliffyB.

[QUOTE=Agoat;40258652]I'm up for an always-online service if it's more than DRM. I don't ever use my Xbox if my internet is out anyway. Some offline options would be nice, but I don't think they're necessary. There's always going to be games that don't require online, plus mobile games are a ton of fun. I have to agree with CliffyB.[/QUOTE] I think always-online is bad, I tend to not have internet every other month (in fact, I am losing my internet sometime this month) and I would like to play games I spent money on.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40258029]And in 2013 as long as a game sells well, the customer can go to hell as far as the publisher is concerned.[/QUOTE] If the game sells well then obviously the publisher has given the customers what they want. I can't understand how you can possibly draw a line between the publisher's treatment of the customer and the game sales. The only way a game can sell well while screwing over the customer is if gamers are so braindead that they'll buy the Next Big Thing no matter how awful its policies are.

There's no such thing as quality right only hype-driven sales sometimes I stare at the DIII box on my shelf and feel like slapping myself

Okay microsoft if you insist that poor sales, poor reviews and dropping shares is what you want then fine, go right ahead and do it.

[QUOTE=Agoat;40258652]I'm up for an always-online service if it's more than DRM. I don't ever use my Xbox if my internet is out anyway. Some offline options would be nice, but I don't think they're necessary. There's always going to be games that don't require online, plus mobile games are a ton of fun. I have to agree with CliffyB.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I think that if the online portions are relevant, useful and interesting, I would be fine with it. SimCity was a good effort, but in the end failed since a lot of the stuff it added could have been done offline anyway. However, if an online service does add meaningful content to the game, I'd be fine with it.

I don't get why everybody gets outraged over this. Don't buy, pirate, promote, or use products that you don't agree with. Doing any of those means you're okay with them screwing you over because it's insignificant to you. Here's a plan: Don't buy or play the next Xbox. Consoles are sold at a loss, so if people who don't like it actually stick up for what they believe in and don't give Microsoft money while whining about it, Microsoft will lose money and revisit their design.

[QUOTE]Diablo 3, the poster child of a messy launch, is estimated to be at 12 million units. (Remember the internet rage over the art style shift? I barely do. But it seemed so important at the time!)[/QUOTE] That's because everyone pre-ordered it based on the fun, successful previous Diablo games D3 is Blizzard's most pre-ordered game ever, as well as Amazon's most pre-ordered PC game ever (thought that's most likely for the sake of advertising) also people forgot about the art style because when you design a game like this you gotta make sure the gameplay's solid on the long run, which is something D3 completely failed at, so yeah no shit people don't care about the art style when the game itself doesn't even [I]work[/I] The thing that sucks with always-online DRM isn't only that you can't play when you want but it's also that the game doesn't belong to you anymore, even as a service it's a bad idea (at least in its current state) If there's an apocalypse and Cliff is one of the few who survives, I hope he finds a PC with Diablo 3 on it so he can understand

I just don't see a point in having to be always connected to the internet. I don't care about achievments and being connected. I just want to play video games. We are already too dependant on the internet. It should be optional.