[QUOTE=EddieLTU;50739444]and a lifespan of few months[/QUOTE]
Are Seagate hard drives prone to failure? I wasn't aware. What goes, exactly?
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;50739444]and a lifespan of few months[/QUOTE]
Really no longer the case. Filtering out the 1-2 specifically bad models, Seagate is pretty much on-par with WD.
But HGST still rules.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50739867][url]http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028981/storage/seagate-slapped-with-a-class-action-lawsuit-over-hard-drive-failure-rates.html[/url]
basically they have a really shitty long term survival rate[/QUOTE]
And even then it the issue is revolving around a single capacity, of a single model, of a single segment of their lineup.
[QUOTE=Vitisus;50739857]Are Seagate hard drives prone to failure? I wasn't aware. What goes, exactly?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028981/storage/seagate-slapped-with-a-class-action-lawsuit-over-hard-drive-failure-rates.html[/url]
basically they have a really shitty long term survival rate
[QUOTE=Vitisus;50739857]Are Seagate hard drives prone to failure? I wasn't aware. What goes, exactly?[/QUOTE]
Everyone says they're prone to failure. I've been running 3 of them for almost 10 years with no problems. My machine also has a 10 year old rosewill PSU with an extremely high failure rate so I just assume all my luck goes into computers
My own 2TB Seagate drive died within 2 years, so I'm not a very happy customer.
[editline]19th July 2016[/editline]
Currently using an Intenso. It's slow but so far it's held well.
Meanwhile SSD prices are going down too, bringing affordable SSDs in Terabyte range, at least for norwegians.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;50739867][url]http://www.pcworld.com/article/3028981/storage/seagate-slapped-with-a-class-action-lawsuit-over-hard-drive-failure-rates.html[/url]
basically they have a really shitty long term survival rate[/QUOTE]
I remember making a joke about those famous blackblaze results a while back and someone really angrily pointed out that the study is extremely flawed on several levels, I don't expect it will hold up even remotely in court
[QUOTE]Vibration is every hard drive's enemy, and creates an exponential amount of wear on components. Vibration even has performance implications. A typical desktop HDD experiences a relatively vibration-free existence in a stable environment, and is designed accordingly. One of the major differences in enterprise HDD design is vibration resistance technology. This allows the drive to function well and stand up to the wear and tear of the server chassis and rack.
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It is no wonder that Backblaze has continued to refine their chassis to provide more resistance to vibration: [b]the early models merely had nylon spacers to dampen vibration[/b]. Taking a closer look at their data, we can see that the drives in use the longest suffer the highest failure rates. One likely reason is simple: these older drives are in revision 1.0 of their storage enclosures, which suffer from significant vibration issues that merited a redesign.
[b]Unfortunately for Seagate, these drives are predominantly from their product lines[/b]. This paints them in a very unforgiving light due to obvious chassis issues, with a misleading annual failure rate of 25.4% that would surely put Seagate out of business, if it were realistic.[/QUOTE]
They are flawed if you were wanting purely consumer level reliability.
At the same time, countless people running lots of these drives continue to come forward and say it's mirrored their experience. I got like 30 HD's, 9 of them were ST3000Dm001's. I've had 10 drives fail, one WD Green 2TB, and 9 ST300DM001's. With that said, those are the only Seagate drives I've had issues with.
And if you ask a lot of other people it's the same. If you had 1-2 drives that failed, that's not much data. All drives have a lifespan.
10TB is all well and good but that's one hell of a single point of failure.
Had two 1TB Seagates for 5 months; you know what happened.
Yep, had 2 Seagate HDD's which were both 3 TB and both died, they ran in RAID 1 and as soon one of them crashed after 2 years of use the other followed only 4 months later. A lot of data was lost in that year..
[QUOTE=darth-veger;50740097]Yep, had 2 Seagate HDD's which were both 3 TB and both died, they ran in RAID 1 and as soon one of them crashed after 2 years of use the other followed only 4 months later. A lot of data was lost in that year..[/QUOTE]
So you had a degraded RAID1 for 4 months and didn't rebuild it or have other backups?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50740100]So you had a degraded RAID1 for 4 months and didn't rebuild it or have other backups?[/QUOTE]
I was hoping the second HDD would keep up a bit more then 4 months, it was through Christmas and i had no real money to spent extra the first two months. I ain't going back to Seagate, thats for sure.
[QUOTE=bloboo;50740062]I refuse to get any hard drive bigger than 2 TB. Anything more and its just gonna die before you even hook it up.[/QUOTE]
how do they fit so many bytes in such a small space anyways without it exploding
1tb seagate going on 4 years, 4tb going on 2.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;50740161]I was hoping the second HDD would keep up a bit more then 4 months, it was through Christmas and i had no real money to spent extra the first two months. I ain't going back to Seagate, thats for sure.[/QUOTE]
Even if that was an HGST or WD drive, it wouldn't have been safe. Why not file an RMA on the dead drive, get it replaced then rebuild it using that new drive?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50740296]Even if that was an HGST or WD drive, it wouldn't have been safe. Why not file an RMA on the dead drive, get it replaced then rebuild it using that new drive?[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hRRTUfi.png[/IMG]
It never came, called the European center and they were not much of a help
My 7 year 1TB seagate still works fine
Seagate's shitty drives aside, I remember being 12 in 2008 and thinking that one terabyte of storage space was absolutely nuts. The fact that we can have 10TB hard disks and that affordable 1TB SSDs are on the horizon* blows my mind.
*I haven't been keeping up with tech for a while so maybe this has already happened
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;50740532]Seagate's shitty drives aside, I remember being 12 in 2008 and thinking that one terabyte of storage space was absolutely nuts. The fact that we can have 10TB hard disks and that affordable 1TB SSDs are on the horizon* blows my mind.
*I haven't been keeping up with tech for a while so maybe this has already happened[/QUOTE]
If roughly 300 - 600 dollars is affordable, yeah we're at that point.
Give it another 2-4 years and I think we'll be at the point where SSDs can completely replace HDD as the common computer storage medium for mid-term use reliably. I can't wait!
What the shit how come I haven't even heard of HGST until now
[editline]19th July 2016[/editline]
I can't even find any of them for sale here
[QUOTE=Thunderbolt;50740635]What the shit how come I haven't even heard of HGST until now
[editline]19th July 2016[/editline]
I can't even find any of them for sale here[/QUOTE]
They were previously known as Hitachi. WD now owns them, but they still produce drives independently. WD even rebranded some HGST drives as their own for a bit.
They are pretty expensive but widely regarded as some of the most robust drives.
I wouldn't trust a seagate as far as I can throw one.
And those shits are heavy.
storage over 150$ imho is too much
Once 1tb ssd's hit 80$ then I'll talk
[QUOTE=Brt5470;50740667]They were previously known as Hitachi. WD now owns them, but they still produce drives independently. WD even rebranded some HGST drives as their own for a bit.
They are pretty expensive but widely regarded as some of the most robust drives.[/QUOTE]
Samsung used to make kicking rad hdd's that were inexpensive, but sold off their HDD division because they didn't get much of a profit.
Hopefully Seagate's taking notes from them since they bought that division.
I've used Seagate Barracudas for four years now and I've never had a problem even though Windows likes to erroneously claim that the drives are faulty. CHKDSK has never backed up those claims and the drives have operated perfectly all this time, so I think it's a false positive.
Western Digital, though... my dad had two fail straight out of the box, so I'm not terribly impressed by them.
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;50740589]If roughly 300 - 600 dollars is affordable, yeah we're at that point.
Give it another 2-4 years and I think we'll be at the point where SSDs can completely replace HDD as the common computer storage medium for mid-term use reliably. I can't wait![/QUOTE]
Amazon was selling 1tb SSD's for less than $200 on Prime Day
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