• Cash machines robbed with USB sticks
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And this folks is why you dont run an x86 Windows XP machine on important things
[QUOTE=Tobba;43356984]And this folks is why you dont run an x86 Windows XP machine on important things[/QUOTE] Doesn't really matter what you run on something, it will be broken.
well yeah, if you use Windows for your ATMs and don't disable the USB ports or whatever, what would you expect?
[quote] However, they added that the approach did not extend to the software's filenames - the key one was called [B]hack.bat[/B].[/quote] Haha That's pretty cool, though. I wonder how they figured that out.
[QUOTE=Cmx;43356999]Doesn't really matter what you run on something, it will be broken.[/QUOTE] Its definitely not helping though
[QUOTE=Tobba;43356984]And this folks is why you dont run an x86 Windows XP machine on important things[/QUOTE] how about just don't run windows xp period lol
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;43357001]well yeah, if you use Windows for your ATMs and don't disable the USB ports or whatever, what would you expect?[/QUOTE] Probably kept for manufacturer firmware updates and such. Probably didn't expect people to realize the port was there and functional.
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[QUOTE=Joscpe;43357042]Probably kept for manufacturer firmware updates and such. Probably didn't expect people to realize the port was there and functional.[/QUOTE] It does say they had to cut holes in the machine to access the USB ports. You'd need a great deal of knowledge of how the ATM works to know where it is. It's not like there is a USB port right in the open and easily accessed.
[QUOTE=Cmx;43356999]Doesn't really matter what you run on something, it will be broken.[/QUOTE] So you should probably use something a little more secure than Windows XP of all things.
For some reason I imagined some robbers holding up a bank teller with a USB stick.
Why do ATMs have USB slots in the first place? Why not disable the USB slots in the BIOS?
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;43358324]Why do ATMs have USB slots in the first place? Why not disable the USB slots in the BIOS?[/QUOTE] Software updates
Another idea could be setting up a sort of MAC address firewall on the USB port so only the USB devices owned by the bank can be used.
[QUOTE=Cmx;43356999]Doesn't really matter what you run on something, it will be broken.[/QUOTE] It does. Windows XP will autorun an executable if specified on the USB. This is not the default behavior on Windows 7+ and possibly Vista as well. Not sure if it was patched in XP service packs.
should have ran linux
[QUOTE=Overwatch 7;43358227]For some reason I imagined some robbers holding up a bank teller with a USB stick.[/QUOTE] [t]http://www.geekalerts.com/u/8-GB-Metal-Gun-USB-Flash-Memory-Drive.jpg[/t][t]http://www.geekalerts.com/u/police-revolver-gun-flash-drive.jpg[/t][t]http://www.geekalerts.com/u/ak47-usb-flash-drive.jpg[/t][t]http://gadgetsin.com/uploads/2010/03/handgun_usb_flash_drive_3.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=J!NX;43360103][t]http://www.geekalerts.com/u/8-GB-Metal-Gun-USB-Flash-Memory-Drive.jpg[/t][t]http://www.geekalerts.com/u/police-revolver-gun-flash-drive.jpg[/t][t]http://www.geekalerts.com/u/ak47-usb-flash-drive.jpg[/t][t]http://gadgetsin.com/uploads/2010/03/handgun_usb_flash_drive_3.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] OT but i know someone who would go nuts over these, where are they sold?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43358483]Software updates[/QUOTE] when update is required: go into bios-> reenable usb ports
[QUOTE=Overwatch 7;43358227]For some reason I imagined some robbers holding up a bank teller with a USB stick.[/QUOTE] "Gimme all of your cash or I'll show you the porn that is located on this very USB stick!"
[QUOTE=ToastedTea;43361323]"Gimme all of your cash or I'll show you the porn that is located on this very USB stick!"[/QUOTE] "give me all your money or ill give your browser history to your family"
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;43358324]Why do ATMs have USB slots in the first place? Why not disable the USB slots in the BIOS?[/QUOTE] It's way cheaper to build specialty equipment using off the shelf parts these days than to spend millions developing proprietary and optimized embedded hardware and software. The inefficency of the platform can be masked using faster hardware but since you're using an industry standard platform you are at the mercy of any and every known exploit for it. Hell, if you buy a high frequency scope hese days you're paying $50K for a piece of equipment using an ATX motherboard and Windows. It shares so much with a PC you can get away even installing another OS. [t]http://www.d10x.net/public/DSC00009.JPG[/t] It's more poor ethics and practices than people hacking the ATM.
mmmm.... i'd love to have this kind of craftyness. infinite money and as long as you cover your tracks, untraceable.
[QUOTE=Tobba;43356984]And this folks is why you dont run an x86 Windows XP machine on important things[/QUOTE] One of the ATMs at our local super market had to reboot for some reason and it played the old start up sound through the deaf/hearing impaired speaker , then it froze because the screen asked for the ctrl+alt+del to log in.
[QUOTE=D3vils Buddy;43367593]One of the ATMs at our local super market had to reboot for some reason and it played the old start up sound through the deaf/hearing impaired speaker , then it froze because the screen asked for the ctrl+alt+del to log in.[/QUOTE] I was at home depot and one of the self checkouts crashed and rebooted into the desktop, I asked the clerk there if it had the ability to play music or videos and he opened media player on it.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;43365770]mmmm.... i'd love to have this kind of craftyness. infinite money and as long as you cover your tracks, untraceable.[/QUOTE] Aren't you an awful person.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;43360164]OT but i know someone who would go nuts over these, where are they sold?[/QUOTE] [url]http://dx.com/s/gun?category=112&Sort=AvgRating&InStock=True[/url]
[video=youtube;w1KfSSDh3gU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1KfSSDh3gU[/video]
Am I the only one who's kind of happy that we now live in a time where criminals are writing code to trick and rob machines?
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