[QUOTE=Ithon;47334475]huh
[url]https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/373/~/how-to-obtain-a-refund-of-sales-tax-paid-while-visiting-the-united-states[/url][/QUOTE]
oh, what does that have to do with chinese tourists?
She must love the british.
She comes off as racist.
That's pretty funny how "line cutter" in Thai is pronounced the same as "thank you"
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
Oh shit she's a celebrity
[url]http://shanghaiist.com/2015/03/16/duangjai_phichitamphon_epic_rant_video.php[/url]
[QUOTE=Abrown516;47335664]She comes off as racist.
That's pretty funny how "line cutter" in Thai is pronounced the same as "thank you"
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
Oh shit she's a celebrity
[url]http://shanghaiist.com/2015/03/16/duangjai_phichitamphon_epic_rant_video.php[/url][/QUOTE]
mainland chinese people are some of the most hated by other asian countries because they simply have no manners when it comes to visiting other countries (cutting in lines, pushing and shoving through a crowd, taking dumps on the side of the road, constant spitting)
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;47335845]mainland chinese people are some of the most hated by other asian countries because they simply have no manners when it comes to visiting other countries (cutting in lines, pushing and shoving through a crowd, taking dumps on the side of the road, constant spitting)[/QUOTE]
all 1.3 billion of them???xd
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47335938]all 1.3 billion of them???xd[/QUOTE]
have you ever been to china? spitting is a common sight as is free-for-all service with no concept of a queue.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47335938]all 1.3 billion of them???xd[/QUOTE]
Enough of them are apparently doing something to create a stereotype!
:D
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;47335970]spitting is a common sight.[/QUOTE]
So is taking a shit on the street / subway.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47335938]all 1.3 billion of them???xd[/QUOTE]
lol have you ever traveled anywhere in asia
[QUOTE=capital;47336340]lol have you ever traveled anywhere in asia[/QUOTE]
Yes I've lived in Beijing for 2 years and traveled quite a lot through China. The bad behavior you're noticing comes from people in rural areas that has barely interacted with people outside their own town.
How long have you guys been in China? How many cities and how many people did you interact with?
[QUOTE=capital;47336340]lol have you ever traveled anywhere in asia[/QUOTE]
singapore doesn't count
and yes I have lived in singapore, 3 years.
Chinese tourists around here travel in legit herds. I never understood why Chinese tourists decide they need to be with 40 other people like them to have a good time.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47334829]oh, what does that have to do with chinese tourists?[/QUOTE]
I was making an side comment on how I never heard of the thing in the US, because we do not have such a thing.
I heard on the news a while back that the Chinese government was actually promoting not only better manners to their travelling citizens, but also suggesting that they eat the food of the culture they are visiting. Apparently, wherever they go, a lot of them prefer to just eat instant noodles and chinese food, I guess it is convenient that there is Chinese food literally everywhere.
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;47336692]Chinese tourists around here travel in legit herds. I never understood why Chinese tourists decide they need to be with 40 other people like them to have a good time.[/QUOTE]
if they didn't they'd get agrophobia from not having enough people crowding around them
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47336661]Yes I've lived in Beijing for 2 years and traveled quite a lot through China. The bad behavior you're noticing comes from people in rural areas that has barely interacted with people outside their own town.
How long have you guys been in China? How many cities and how many people did you interact with?[/QUOTE]
There are a disgustingly large number of Chinese exchange students at my university who commonly cut lines directly to the front and then when you confront them they act like they can't speak a single piece of english or they just ignore you completely. When I lived in Vancouver there were similar issues. Chinese in rural areas can't afford an exchange program to these universities so believe it or not it's not only those from rural areas.
[QUOTE=Pandamox;47337156]There are a disgustingly large number of Chinese exchange students at my university who commonly cut lines directly to the front and then when you confront them they act like they can't speak a single piece of english or they just ignore you completely. When I lived in Vancouver there were similar issues. Chinese in rural areas can't afford an exchange program to these universities so believe it or not it's not only those from rural areas.[/QUOTE]
I was more referring to the shitting and spitting part. I assume your exchange students aren't shitting or spitting in the halls. We have a ton of exchange students here too, but I haven't noticed anything that enforced the rude tourist stereotype.
Bad manner is of course a big problem in China and something that even the government has brought up. But to be under the belief that all "mainlanders" behave like that is just being ignorant, although that's not surprising seeing that I'm on FP after all.
Face it, a large proportion of mainland Chinese are entitled pricks who only care about themselves. The situation shown in the video is far from being an exception. Chinese tour groups are especially obnoxious as they have the luxury of not having to live in whatever place they are visiting, so they don't feel like they need to respect the customs of wherever they are visiting. They talk loudly, they leave trash everywhere, they spit, they cut queues. It's sickening.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;47337223]Face it, a large proportion of mainland Chinese are entitled pricks who only care about themselves. [/QUOTE]
I still don't understand how you can say this. "Face it, a large proportion of X are entitled pricks who only care about themselves." Don't you see? But nevermind, I'll drop it here.
One time at work, a couple minutes after we set up some samples for customers, a Chinese family of about 7 showed up and surrounded the sampling table for about 5 minutes. Afterwards, they left the store. Sure enough, they ate all of the samples without buying a thing.
I can certainly see where a stereotype like this would develop if that's how a large portion of Chinese people apparently act.
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
That said, British Columbia has a large Asian population, many Chinese and most of them are very nice people. Not trying to insinuate that all Chiniese are rude, just a funny experience I had. :v:
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;47336681]singapore doesn't count
and yes I have lived in singapore, 3 years.[/QUOTE]
good thing i lived in hong-kong, korea and singapore for twelve years.
i've been pushed off trains by chinese before lol
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47336661]Yes I've lived in Beijing for 2 years and traveled quite a lot through China. The bad behavior you're noticing comes from people in rural areas that has barely interacted with people outside their own town.
How long have you guys been in China? How many cities and how many people did you interact with?[/QUOTE]I lived in Guangzhou and Dongguang for 2 years and I saw this all the time. There weren't any lines anywhere. I got over it right away and just decided if they push then I'll push to get ahead. I did that and they always got out of my way because they noticed I'm white.
But the queue thing wasn't the worst thing. Families letting their kids take a shit on the side of the street made them look like dogs. They had no shame about it but it definitely pisses off the Chinese middle classes who witness that. The poorer people just grow up with 0 manners, everyone kept to their selves. I got bumped a lot and bumped people too, they would act like they were never touched.
Also it sometimes made sense there was no line. They would try to form lines before the work rush but then it'd get too crowded and people start running late so they cram into the train and run to first in line. I've definitely had to push my way through because I was late for work.
Then I've seen a giant woman breastfeeding her child in a very busy street. It was gross but hey I've seen that in America more times than there. I don't know why women do it here and are proud of it, that's private business. Go to the bathroom. And don't take a selfie of it which I have seen on Facebook a few times, nobody needs to see that.
[QUOTE=Pandamox;47337156]There are a disgustingly large number of Chinese exchange students at my university who commonly cut lines directly to the front and then when you confront them they act like they can't speak a single piece of english or they just ignore you completely. When I lived in Vancouver there were similar issues. Chinese in rural areas can't afford an exchange program to these universities so believe it or not it's not only those from rural areas.[/QUOTE]
see this is the thing. they're not exchange students. they're either first or second gen that have smuggled themselves into the country. not all of them of course, but a lot of people smuggle themselves out of fu zhou exactly because they're poor and want to get a better life.
[editline]17th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;47337346]One time at work, a couple minutes after we set up some samples for customers, a Chinese family of about 7 showed up and surrounded the sampling table for about 5 minutes. Afterwards, they left the store. Sure enough, they ate all of the samples without buying a thing.
I can certainly see where a stereotype like this would develop if that's how a large portion of Chinese people apparently act.
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
That said, British Columbia has a large Asian population, many Chinese and most of them are very nice people. Not trying to insinuate that all Chiniese are rude, just a funny experience I had. :v:[/QUOTE]
my mum always samples the grapes at the supermarket, although she's usually buying that box so it's sort of ok, but a lot of the time she's doing it to check if they're good grapes. free samples though? yeah, we'll pretty much take them all if there's no one watching/rules to stop people taking more than one. chinese people absolutely love free stuff. we can't really resist deals either.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;47337277]I still don't understand how you can say this. "Face it, a large proportion of X are entitled pricks who only care about themselves." Don't you see? But nevermind, I'll drop it here.[/QUOTE]
Because on facepunch its ok to be casually racist and if someone calls you out on it you can say stop being a SJW. Honestly I haven't seen much of this in Chinese tourists or exchange students anywhere I've been.
With that said while I was in Beijing I did see a fair amount of spitting and line cutting. I was really close to decking someone when I was there because they were trying to get around me. Thankfully my dad is apparently really good at blocking people.
[QUOTE=capital;47337682]good thing i lived in hong-kong, korea and singapore for twelve years.
i've been pushed off trains by chinese before lol[/QUOTE]
those aren't mainland china. there's is a wooooorld of difference between even hong kong and mainland china. hong kong is super westernised, it's like a slice of america in the east.
mainland china, outside of big cities like beijing, shanghai and maybe shenzhen, living conditions get very rural very very quickly. even in beijing, i have a cousin who lives on the outer ring of beijing and the difference between there and the busy shopping district (for tourists) is like night and day. he was living in a dusty ring road and there was a kfc and high rise apartment blocks literally across the road from him. and he had to go shopping at an open market centre, much like my father's second wife had to do when we were in shanghai.
there's like, store bought produce like we have in the west but it's way more common for people to just buy from the marketplaces because it's cheaper.
[editline]17th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;47336692]Chinese tourists around here travel in legit herds. I never understood why Chinese tourists decide they need to be with 40 other people like them to have a good time.[/QUOTE]
a lot of this has to do with the feeling of not being accepted by westerners. since china is so large, there's a certain sense of... fun? in finding other chinese people and finding out where they come from. then they group together because they're the only chinese people in a large group of "whiteys" and it just snowballs from there as these chinese people know some other chinese people that they'd love to meet etc
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;47336681]singapore doesn't count
and yes I have lived in singapore, 3 years.[/QUOTE]
why doesn't singapore count
we get our fair share of chinese immigrants and labourers.
[QUOTE=Abrown516;47335664]She comes off as racist.
That's pretty funny how "line cutter" in Thai is pronounced the same as "thank you"
[editline]16th March 2015[/editline]
Oh shit she's a celebrity
[url]http://shanghaiist.com/2015/03/16/duangjai_phichitamphon_epic_rant_video.php[/url][/QUOTE]
at the same time, she does have a point. on the other hand, there are just so many of us that trying to get an organised queue would literally end up with queues going for miles.
that said, when i was in beijing train station trying to get a ticket to shanghai, the queueing was fairly organised and sane. but i think it was about 3pm and most people were at work.
when i went to the shanghai electronics expo, i went with my dad's second wife's nephew (or some relation) and there were scalpers everywhere on the metro. well technically they weren't scalping because they were selling for less than their RRP which was weird.
the queue lines that were there stretched around the building almost twice, and we're talking about a dedicated showroom kind of place, so it was about a kilometer or so square. thankfully, they were mostly empty, since we arrived fairly late in the day, but we still had to wait a good 20 minutes to get in.
so the point of this is that, at least more recently, china has been making efforts to queue properly.
this blew up quite fast, not defending their actions but there's quite a lot of casual racism here and on reddit when it comes to non-black ethnicities
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