After Brexit, Australia calls for liberation from the Commonwealth!
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[QUOTE]Australia's republican movement says membership has surged in the wake of the Brexit vote, as Australians question the benefits of remaining part of “little Britain”.
An “AusExit” campaign, including calls to remove the Union Jack from the flag and remove the British monarch as head of state, has gained momentum since Friday, when Britain voted to leave the European Union.
Peter FitzSimons, the chairman of Australia’s republican movement, said Australia had belonged to the British empire but the historic ties between the nations had become less relevant because “Great Britain barely exists anymore”.
“It’s one thing for the monarchists to say ‘we should be staying so very closely aligned to Great Britain’ … but how do you feel about staying so closely aligned to little Britain?” he told ABC Radio.
"From the moment that Brexit came through, social media came alive, with people saying 'this is ridiculous, let us be our own people, let us get away from this'.”[/QUOTE]
It begins!
Source: [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/brexit-boosts-calls-for-australia-to-leave-the-commonwealth/"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/brexit-boosts-calls-for-australia-to-leave-the-commonwealth/[/URL]
about fucking time
surge from what
1% to 1.5% support?
Never heard of them until now.
not happening
we'll be forking out millions of dollars for a nationalist movement and nobody can tell me the benefits of removing the monarchy other than patriotism
also getting a new flag is complicated and hard because every choice so far is so fucking stupid and the indigenous does not want their flag or colours on the new flag
i dont know why we cant leave it as is, this election we've got a lot more shit to deal with, i have not heard anyone talking about "ausexit" at all
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alsox2, we will not be "liberating ourselves from the commonwealth" we'll still be apart of the commonwealth, like it or not
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50608175] we'll be forking out millions of dollars for a nationalist movement and [B]nobody can tell me the benefits of removing the monarchy other than patriotism[/B]
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Funny, kinda reminds me of a certain EU referendum a country just had recently.
[QUOTE=Chaitin;50608205]Funny, kinda reminds me of a certain EU referendum a country just had recently.[/QUOTE]
Britain gained the right to enforce their borders and not have thousands of refugees thrust upon them despite the will of the people, and they no longer have to foot the bailout bill when an EU member like Greece goes bankrupt. Whether or not they outweigh the disadvantages I do not know, but leaving the EU wasn't just for blind patriotism.
Republic Australia motion is even more retarded than the brexit motion by a large margin
[QUOTE=Untouch;50608156]surge from what
1% to 1.5% support?[/QUOTE]
About as high as the Texit numbers
They should've called it Aussiexit
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50608175]also getting a new flag is complicated and hard because every choice so far is so fucking stupid and the indigenous does not want their flag or colours on the new flag[/QUOTE]
Wait what? Then why does 80% of proposals incorporate aboriginal shit?
but who will we put on our money??
How much difference would this even make? Does Britain still have any actual sway over Australia or is it just tradition at this point?
[QUOTE=squids_eye;50608284]Does Britain still have any actual sway over Australia[/QUOTE]
if this shit really happened i'd very much doubt the commonwealth would exist today tbh
[QUOTE=squids_eye;50608284]How much difference would this even make? Does Britain still have any actual sway over Australia or is it just tradition at this point?[/QUOTE]
Well, the UK cockblocked the independence of WA despite voting 2 to 1 to tell Canberra to fuck off in a Referendum they had in the 1930s.
But yeah after WW2 it's purely symbolic at this point except in the 1970s, the UK tied the hands of the Federal Government over Hutt River which left it outside of the Australia Legal System on a technicality.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;50608219][B]Britain gained the right to enforce their borders[/B] and not have thousands of refugees thrust upon them despite the will of the people, and they no longer have to foot the bailout bill when an EU member like Greece goes bankrupt. Whether or not they outweigh the disadvantages I do not know, but leaving the EU wasn't just for blind patriotism.[/QUOTE]
Except our government is gunning for a deal with EEA which has freedom of movement as a requirement.
I'm not sure how many times I'm gonna have to repeat this but the majority of the leave campaign and the voters were focused on immigration. Nothings going to change on that front so the "winners" didn't even get what they were told they'd get.
Why the fuck exactly should we leave the commonwealth?
[editline]28th June 2016[/editline]
The only people I know who would want to leave are ultrabogans
There probably will be a time to leave. But not while Lizzie is still Queen. It would just break her heart.
[editline]28th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zelpa;50608276]but who will we put on our money??[/QUOTE]
Johnny Howard and Kev yea boy
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;50608219]Britain gained the right to enforce their borders and not have thousands of refugees thrust upon them despite the will of the people, and they no longer have to foot the bailout bill when an EU member like Greece goes bankrupt. Whether or not they outweigh the disadvantages I do not know, but leaving the EU wasn't just for blind patriotism.[/QUOTE]
Just to tell you, if those refugees land in the UK, they still have to take them by Geneva Convention, UN, and a couple other things.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;50608284]How much difference would this even make? Does Britain still have any actual sway over Australia or is it just tradition at this point?[/QUOTE]
I think the very last tie is the throne. There used to be a time, even after federation in 1901, where Australians were still British subjects rather than Australian citizens, the UK's Privy Council was the highest court of appeal rather than the High Court of Australia, and the UK's parliament could override our own. But over those hundred years we've implemented so much gradual change that we are our own republic in all but name.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;50608303]Well, the UK cockblocked the independence of WA despite voting 2 to 1 to tell Canberra to fuck off in a Referendum they had in the 1930s.
But yeah after WW2 it's purely symbolic at this point except in the 1970s, the UK tied the hands of the Federal Government over Hutt River which left it outside of the Australia Legal System on a technicality.[/QUOTE]
Also the governor general(the Queen's representative) dissolved parliament in 1975 which was a pretty big deal.
The Queen still maintains executive power but I expect it would be huge drama if any of her powers were actually used today.
Personally I've seen it as one of the biggest advantages of remaining where we are.
Really? Ausexit? That's the best they could come up with? I instantly thought of "Auscape" when I saw the title
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;50608448]Also the governor general(the Queen's representative) dissolved parliament in 1975 which was a pretty big deal.
The Queen still maintains executive power but I expect it would be huge drama if any of her powers were actually used today.
Personally I've seen it as one of the biggest advantages of remaining where we are.[/QUOTE]
The Governor-General didn't act on the advice of the Queen; he took the initiative to do so with the advice of the leader of the opposition. The very same situation could happen again if we were a republic and had an appointed President.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;50608459]Really? Ausexit? That's the best they could come up with? I instantly thought of "Auscape" when I saw the title[/QUOTE]
"Austa la stralia, baby" would be fine too.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;50608219]Britain gained the right to enforce their borders and not have thousands of [B]refugees thrust upon them despite the will of the people[/B], and they no longer have to foot the bailout bill when an EU member like Greece goes bankrupt. Whether or not they outweigh the disadvantages I do not know, but leaving the EU wasn't just for blind patriotism.[/QUOTE][emphasis mine]
This was never a thing. The refugees Britain currently receives are there because the elected government of Britain invited them, not because they were pushed onto the country.
Current EU (technically Schengen area, I think) regulations state that the country they arrive in/are registered in first has to host them, and Britain could easily veto any change to that. There's currently a voluntary agreement between some countries in the EU for refugee redistribution, but Britain never took part in that and has no plans to. France also currently takes care not to let anyone get to Britain illegally from Calais, if I'm not mistaken.
(Britain also already enforces its borders, as do a few other EU islands. It's not a new right they'd gain by leaving the EU. I was under the impression their active border control was a widely known fact, but it probably isn't in the US.
They of course can't block migrants who are EU citizens, but that in particular is very unlikely to change under the British government's current plans of remaining in the European economic area.)
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;50608219]Britain gained the right to enforce their borders and not have thousands of refugees thrust upon them despite the will of the people, and they no longer have to foot the bailout bill when an EU member like Greece goes bankrupt. Whether or not they outweigh the disadvantages I do not know, but leaving the EU wasn't just for blind patriotism.[/QUOTE]
lol good luck after France kicks British border authorities out of Calais and the British financial sector moves to Frankfurt.
This comes up every couple of years and usually gets crushed. They tried getting NZ to become a republic by changing the flag first making it 'easier' to become a republic.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;50608271]They should've called it Aussiexit
Wait what? Then why does 80% of proposals incorporate aboriginal shit?[/QUOTE]
Why not just AusOut?
Call it the Prison Break.
People have been saying this shit for ages though its not like this is anything new.
Actually in this case. I disagree. The commonwealth doesn't really have that much "hold" on us and our constitution is very well written and protects us from a lot of things.
Hell, According to it I'm able to vote in England just as i can get married there and have it automatically recognized here and the last thing you want is people scrapping all that and adding in things that may not be in your best interest.
Child support is a good example, when that bill was introduce there were a lot of other things that came with it that weren't relevant to it.
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