Okey so I just got my computer back from a reparation (Warranty and everything is gone now) and it's running with slighltly worse specs than before. But the problem is
When I try to play Gmod the whole computer freezes in less than ten minutes.
And when I try to start it up the fan just starts, the caps lock and another lock button flashes sometimes then it turns itself off. It does that even if it didn't crash the last time. So I will need to wait more than 30 minutes to be able to use the computer again.
I need asap help cause my community is dying without me :(
[quote="My Dxdiag"]
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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/2/2011, 10:54:29
Machine name: ÄGAREN-DATOR
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-74 (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 3068MB RAM
Page File: 1497MB used, 4861MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
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I blame overheating. Either that, or your powersupply is dying. Also, re-seat your memory sticks, and run a memory test from an Ubuntu LiveCD.
-It can't be overheating cause I just spend 40€ on buying a cooling plate (If it doesn't stand in Dxdiag it's a Pavilion Dv6 NOTEBOOK) :P
-Powersupply is dying, you mean the battery or the recharging cable?
-How do I re-seat my memory di-sticks
-How do I run a memory test from an Ubuntu LiveCD?
To re-seat the memory, you remove the panel on the bottom and pull out the memory sticks. they're about 3 inches long each. I normally just swap the slots. I didn't notice it was a notebook, so ignore the power supply part. When you boot up an Ubuntu LiveCD, it gives you a menu of things to choose from. Near the bottom, is MemTest86+. That's the memory testing app, to make sure you don't have faulty memory.
Download HWmonitor and check tempratures.
don't care what you say about cooling plates, just do it.
also post pics.
of Hwmonitor that is.
A Pavillion Dv6 you say? Worst cooling design in history, I can't believe it's even legal to design it so improperly! My friend's Dv6 CPU is easily a hundred degree Celsius and my other friend's CPU is easily ninety degree Celsius.
Have this:
[url]http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html[/url]
Let it run while you play for a while, post a screenshot of temps.
[QUOTE=Within;30844547]A Pavillion Dv6 you say? Worst cooling design in history, I can't believe it's even legal to design it so improperly! My friend's Dv6 CPU is easily a hundred degree Celsius and my other friend's CPU is easily ninety degree Celsius.
Have this:
[url]http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html[/url]
Let it run while you play for a while, post a screenshot of temps.[/QUOTE]
I gots a permanent heat damage on my left leg cause of that :(
I'll get on it straight away mister!
If you're uncomfortable with the whole Ubuntu LiveCD thing you can force shutdown your computer (i.e. pull out the battery while it's not hooked to power) and when you get to the screen that asks you if you want to boot into safe mode etc., there should be an option for memory diagnostics.
That's how I recall it with Windows 7, anyway. Else you have the Ubuntu LiveCD which isn't hard to pull off.
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
If you want to try the Ubuntu LiveCD you can go here:
[url]http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download[/url]
(scroll down to number 3, 'Try it!')
If you're unfamiliar with this kind of sorcery, have a read here:
[url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD[/url]
This is how it is when I'm not playing a game, I can try to do it as I'm playing a game too, but each time it crashes there's a risk it won't start again right?
[img]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6899/yomoma.jpg[/img]
EDIT [quote="Within"] If you're uncomfortable with the whole Ubuntu LiveCD thing you can force shutdown your computer (i.e. pull out the battery while it's not hooked to power) and when you get to the screen that asks you if you want to boot into safe mode etc., there should be an option for memory diagnostics.
That's how I recall it with Windows 7, anyway. Else you have the Ubuntu LiveCD which isn't hard to pull off.
Edited:
If you want to try the Ubuntu LiveCD you can go here:
[url]http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download[/url]
(scroll down to number 3, 'Try it!')
If you're unfamiliar with this kind of sorcery, have a read here:
[url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD[/url][/quote]
I don't have Ubuntu...Should I get it or no?
Yes and no. Of course, it's crashing for a reason, but it won't die just like that.
You see the temperatures are already at 62-64C while you're idling, it's not [U]too[/U] bad to a Dv6 (my friends idles somewhere in the seventies), but you should try playing for a while. If you're familiar with the crash-pattern, so to speak, exit before it crashes. You can see the max temperature in the 'Max' column, naturally.
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
Also I failed to mention your crash is likely caused by your CPU overheating. It has a feature to just kill your computer if it reaches a certain temperature (can be turned on/off and/or adjusted within the BIOS).
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;30844666]I don't have Ubuntu...Should I get it or no?[/QUOTE]
Read my post above, I'm pretty positive you can get to a similar memory diagnostics tool within Windows Vista (you can with Windows 7 anyway).
[QUOTE=Within;30844763]Also I failed to mention your crash is likely caused by your CPU overheating. It has a feature to just kill your computer if it reaches a certain temperature (can be turned on/off and/or adjusted within the BIOS).[/QUOTE]
I advise not completely turning it off though because you may get permanent CPU damage when you overheat, and that would be bad.
It crashes around 5-6 mins after I have joined a game.
[img]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8504/dddddex.jpg[/img] But I'm not sure about it
[QUOTE=brandonsh;30844849]I advise not completely turning it off though because you may get permanent CPU damage when you overheat, and that would be bad.[/QUOTE]
Dell (In their wisdom) have it turned off by default. My laptop got to 105C before I noticed.
When your computer freezes, does what is on screen stay the same? Or does it go black? Does it "fragment" and spit colour randomly (in lines) over the screen.
[QUOTE=FlapadarV2;30844887]Dell (In their wisdom) have it turned off by default. My laptop got to 105C before I noticed.
When your computer freezes, does what is on screen stay the same? Or does it go black? Does it "fragment" and spit colour randomly (in lines) over the screen.[/QUOTE]
The screen stays the same. The fan still goes and the lights are still on, there aren't any sounds though
EDIT: If I do the Ubuntu CD thingy, will I still have my Vista? Or will I need to reinstall it?
By using the Live CD you won't install or lose anything, thus the name. You boot into Ubuntu directly from the CD.
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
Those temperatures are not at all crash-worthy.
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
Although we can't see how your GPU is doing.
Is the part to the left of the touchpad [I]really[/I] hot?
No it isn't. It must be something else than the heat that makes it crash, since my extra cooling never worked out against the crashes
EDIT: Nor the startup problems
EDIT: Do I need to burn it or can I just mount the .iso file?
You need to boot from the .ISO
You can do that by burning or extracting it to a USB flash drive
What difference will the Ubuntu test thing make? I might have problems with the memory sticks, can I have a more detailed guide?
I tried with testing Ubuntu but nothing happened after the long waiting time before a start, since I was bored I have uploaded a movie. They are recorded around 5 mins between eachother.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSmokinchico?feature=mhee#p/u/3/PaTKa7my6yg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSmokinchico?feature=mhee#p/u/2/MJd3jp8LsSw[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSmokinchico?feature=mhee#p/u/1/gC7ZrjLcdP0[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihkRkfgPiDI&feature=channel_video_title[/url]
When it started it came back right to windows.
Further edit: I managed to get Ubuntu working, but there are blue line thingies going allover the screen (I installed it instead). But it still freezes and crashes :/
I have a DV6 aswell and the cooling is total shit, you should get some compressed air and blow into it, and make sure the spot with the fan is lifted off of whatever you're sitting with it on.
that way I can manage to keep it at 80C.
The heat isn't a problem. The current problem is that I am having problems [i]starting[/i] it. It freezes and crashes in Ubuntu even when it's in idle. I asked on another forum and they said something could be wrong with the "pasta"...What the heck is that? Lol.
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdlKHYorlWA[/URL]
^--How it is to start now. It has been off for 4 hours or more.
Update, now it has been off for more than 24 hours, and it's still the same..Time to get a new one I pressume?
You mentioned tiny blue lines over the screen?
You're a bit vague on the details but my guess is that the solder points cracked on the gpu from excessive overheating, a friend of mine had a similar problem.
Basically what's going on is that the graphics processor is soldered directly to the motherboard, and when it gets very hot it weakens the soldering points. Add some vibrations due to the fact it's a laptop and you've got a crack. If it doesn't make contact on all the solder points you get all sorts of problems, ranging from funky colors to not starting at all.
If I'm right, what you need to do is dissassemble your laptop down to the bare motherboard. Remove everything that can be removed, ram, cooling, processor, the lot. Then you need to find the GPU and get a hot air gun and aim it on the back of the motherboard, right behind where the GPU is soldered on. This will melt the solder and reflow it so it all makes contact again. How long you should hold it there, I'm not sure as I haven't done it myself but a friend of mine did it to a packard bell and it worked fine afterwards.
The problem is though that once it's been weakened it'll break easier, his started acting up again after a few months and he had to use the heatgun again. Not sure how it's doing now but I've heard that reflowing like this generally doesn't last more than a few months at a time.
I'm not 100% this is your problem though as I said, you're a bit vague on the details so I don't recommend it untill you've determined it's the problem and read up on it some more. Just putting the idea out there.
Well the problem now is the things that are shown on all the youtube vids. The computer starts, the fan starts and then it shuts down after one second or two, before it could last longer but now it goes exactly the same lentgh? before shutting down again.
I can live with the the tine blue lines if they appear as I get it working again..
[i][b][u]I just wanna play Gmod! D:[/u][/b][/i]
[QUOTE=chipset;30888857]You mentioned tiny blue lines over the screen?
You're a bit vague on the details but my guess is that the solder points cracked on the gpu from excessive overheating, a friend of mine had a similar problem.
Basically what's going on is that the graphics processor is soldered directly to the motherboard, and when it gets very hot it weakens the soldering points. Add some vibrations due to the fact it's a laptop and you've got a crack. If it doesn't make contact on all the solder points you get all sorts of problems, ranging from funky colors to not starting at all.
If I'm right, what you need to do is dissassemble your laptop down to the bare motherboard. Remove everything that can be removed, ram, cooling, processor, the lot. Then you need to find the GPU and get a hot air gun and aim it on the back of the motherboard, right behind where the GPU is soldered on. This will melt the solder and reflow it so it all makes contact again. How long you should hold it there, I'm not sure as I haven't done it myself but a friend of mine did it to a packard bell and it worked fine afterwards.
The problem is though that once it's been weakened it'll break easier, his started acting up again after a few months and he had to use the heatgun again. Not sure how it's doing now but I've heard that reflowing like this generally doesn't last more than a few months at a time.
I'm not 100% this is your problem though as I said, you're a bit vague on the details so I don't recommend it untill you've determined it's the problem and read up on it some more. Just putting the idea out there.[/QUOTE]
This, only mine was dv5 but the same thing happened. Overheating, caused the GPU to have cracked solder points... I would have colorful pinstripes covering my entire screen whenever I would enter a 3D environment for more then 5 minutes. The screensaver even causes it to crash.
I just shoved the piece of shit on my dad for him to use for web browsing and got a new computer.
I'll be completely honest.
HP, you make good desktops..
BUT STAY OUT OF THE LAPTOP BUSINESS UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO PROPER COOLING.
Only way you could fix this is if you completely disassembled the laptop and re-soldered the points yourself.
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;30889576]Only way you could fix this is if you completely disassembled the laptop and re-soldered the points yourself.[/QUOTE]
GPUs for the past 10+ years have used the BGA package, you can't fix a BGA properly without a reflow station. And someone don't say "throw it in the oven", because not only will it not work, it'll severely damage the rest of the motherboard.
..So what should I do?
DV's scare me. If the GPU does not pop off the board, the northbridge does......or the shitty hinges break.
Get rid of the thing before it croaks. Find another laptop that ISN'T a DV.
Funny story, my brother needed a recharged and we checked my battery and his, then the recharger. My battery's highest limit is 10V, and the recharger is on 19V..
We bought the recharger for another computer but..yeah. Do you think it will work if I put in a new battery and get a better/new recharger?
I'd pull the RAM, CPU and HD out and get a new laptop/desktop like MIPS said. spending any money on that would be a waste better put to something else.
And don't start mixing power adapters and batteries, unless you want to risk them exploding.
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