• Man charged in bomb hoax was Concordia Lebanese PhD student
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[quote]The man charged in connection with Wednesday's bomb threats at Concordia University, Hisham Saadi, was a PhD student in economics there, according to the man who sublet Saadi his apartment. Speaking to CBC's French-language network, Radio-Canada, under the condition of anonymity, the man said he had met Saadi at Concordia to pick up a rent cheque. He said Saadi is of Lebanese origin. "I think he has [Canadian] citizenship," he said. "He has been here for many years." Saadi has been ordered to undergo a psychological assessment. However, his sublessor brushed off a question about Saadi's mental health. "He's a PhD student, he doesn't have [psychiatric] problems. He's lonely. Single, I mean," he told Radio-Canada. IP address led police to original tenant Saadi had been subletting the apartment on Darlington Avenue near Goyer Street in the Côte-des-Neiges neighbourhood since mid-January. As a sublessee, Saadi's online activity was linked to the IP address set up in the name of the official tenant whose name is on the original lease. Police, looking for the computer which sent the threatening emails, arrested the official tenant when he emerged from the university, where he is also a student, at around 7:30 p.m. Wednesday. He said police told him the IP address of the internet in his apartment had led them to him. He said investigators scrutinized his email activity but turned up nothing, because he hadn't sent anything suspicious. He said police held him until about 3 a.m. Thursday. At around 1:30 a.m. Thursday, Saadi was arrested in the apartment.[/quote] [url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/hisham-saadi-concordia-hoax-bombing-1.4007544[/url]
[QUOTE=Article]"He's a PhD student, he doesn't have [psychiatric] problems.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if threatening to bomb folks is a sign of mental stability, personally. Also the way it's phrased kinda implies that he's too intelligent to be a maniac, somehow.
[QUOTE]IP address led police to original tenant[/QUOTE] you have a PhD and don't know that your IP address can be used to track you.
[QUOTE=1239the;51906858]you have a PhD and don't know that your IP address can be used to track you.[/QUOTE] Knowledge isn't the same thing as intelligence, specifically when it's limited to a particulal field. This guy specialised in economics, not compsci
[QUOTE=1239the;51906858]you have a PhD and don't know that your IP address can be used to track you.[/QUOTE] There have been times were an IP address for identification alone has not been held up in court.
[QUOTE=1239the;51906858]you have a PhD and don't know that your IP address can be used to track you.[/QUOTE] He was a PhD candidate, not a PhD yet, but still
Article title: "Man charged in bomb hoax was Concordia PhD student, says man who sublet to him" Tudd's title: "Man charged in bomb hoax was Concordia Lebanese PhD student" :thinking:
Can a mod fix that loaded title please
Him being Lebanese is irrelevant
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51908605]Him being Lebanese is irrelevant[/QUOTE] Not to Tudd apparently.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51908605]Him being Lebanese is irrelevant[/QUOTE] Considering it completely changes the preconceived theories of who would make such a threat, I believe it is a huge context piece. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1554820[/url] It actually really makes a person wonder why someone would do this in his position.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51908751]It actually really makes a person wonder why someone would do this in his position.[/QUOTE] Is this a higher form of concern trolling? Are you pretending that you have 0 critical thinking skills so that others will have to express your points for you so you don't have to debate them like LORD M used to do? Its obvious that this guy either wants to put trump supporters in a shitty light, or wants to gather sympathy for muslims (or both). The fact that he's from Lebanon means nothing. The key point of this entire event is that it was a false flag attack on muslims. The key point of this article is that some guy who barely knew him says some shit about him.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51908751]Considering it completely changes the preconceived theories of who would make such a threat, I believe it is a huge context piece. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1554820[/url] It actually really makes a person wonder why someone would do this in his position.[/QUOTE] to garner sympathy for muslims, I would assume
[QUOTE=Tudd;51908751]Considering it completely changes the preconceived theories of who would make such a threat, I believe it is a huge context piece. [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1554820[/url] It actually really makes a person wonder why someone would do this in his position.[/QUOTE] The fact that he's lebanese means nothing, it tells us nothing more than saying he's canadian.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51908864]The fact that he's lebanese means nothing, it tells us nothing more than saying he's canadian.[/QUOTE] Actually it brings alot to the table. It changes the conversation from, "What sick racist/anti-islamaphobic hicks would do this?" to "why would this guy false flag?" Being Lebanese and a student at that university probably gives us a good idea that he might identify with the community he targeted. Ofcourse he could easily be of another religion, but this single detail completely shuts down the reasons of White Nationalism unless some extraordinary evidence suggests otherwise. [t]http://oi65.tinypic.com/2ir3xo9.jpg[/t] I personally think it would be fucked up to be from Lebanon, one of the most diverse countries in the middle east, and think it was okay to frame a student political group with violent bomb threats in order to false flag non-existent Islamophobia from this group.
His race and nationality is relevant because that's [I]who he is[/I]. When someone commits a crime, it's only standard that his/her race and nationality is known. You can't dismiss it as irrelevant because you feel like it.
On re-reading that threat letter, I wonder if he's going to reveal who the woman member in his party is.
[QUOTE=Boaraes;51909206]His race and nationality is relevant because that's [I]who he is[/I]. When someone commits a crime, it's only standard that his/her race and nationality is known. You can't dismiss it as irrelevant because you feel like it.[/QUOTE] No one is saying his race is irrelevant?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51909365]No one is saying his race is irrelevant?[/QUOTE] I'm a bit lost here, first you said him being Lebanese is irrelevant, but apparently not his race. So if the title said "of Arabic origin" that'd be fine?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51909365]No one is saying his race is irrelevant?[/QUOTE] Well I mean literally [QUOTE=Lambeth;51908605]Him being Lebanese is irrelevant[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51908830]The fact that he's from Lebanon means nothing. [/QUOTE]
Lebanon is a nation, thus Lebanese is a nationality last I checked.
[QUOTE=Kecske;51909441]I'm a bit lost here, first you said him being Lebanese is irrelevant, but apparently not his race. So if the title said "of Arabic origin" that'd be fine?[/QUOTE] No, because that would still be an editorialized headline and him being from "Arabic Origin" isn't the point STILL. The point of the story is that it's false flag attack. It's not a false flag attack on lebanese folk. It's not a false flag attack on people of arabic origin, it's a false flag attack on people who are muslim, by a person who is possibly muslim. Please read the letter that Tudd kindly posted if you are confused.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51909513]No, because that would still be an editorialized headline and him being from "Arabic Origin" isn't the point STILL. The point of the story is that it's false flag attack. It's not a false flag attack on lebanese folk. It's not a false flag attack on people of arabic origin, it's a false flag attack on people who are muslim, by a person who is possibly muslim. Please read the letter that Tudd kindly posted if you are confused.[/QUOTE] You are honestly just nitpicking for anything at all you think you can find wrong with the article.
I don't recall there being this much interest in the origins of the perpetrator when that french canadian killed 6 muslims.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51909525]I don't recall there being this much interest in the origins of the perpetrator when that french canadian killed 6 muslims.[/QUOTE] It's almost as if we knew immediately when that terrorist attack happened, and how we didn't know who made this threat and thus made speculations on who and what motive caused this. This is starting to remind me of that thread about a transgender person being stabbed, and because it didn't really fit well into peoples ideals it became a 5 page thread arguing about something practically irrelevant. [QUOTE=Lambeth;51909450]Lebanon is a nation, thus Lebanese is a nationality last I checked.[/QUOTE] Man that's real convenient that we can toggle that. Can't help but feel a few posts prior were trying to infer Tudd was being racist based on including "Lebanese" in the title.
[QUOTE=Thlis;51909521]You are honestly just nitpicking for anything at all you think you can find wrong with the article.[/QUOTE] Ugh. I really don't know how to explain this properly. Last time I tried to explain this people got on my ass and someone else had to explain it for me so let me put this in point form so it's easier for me to express, and it's easier for you to understand. - The false-flag attacks were about religion, NOT ethnicity and NOT countries of origin. - The false-flag attacks were meant to generate distrust about christianity and judaism. - If you think that ethnicity is a factor in any of this, then you're just as bad as the people who say "I BET A WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE DID THIS" The fact that the person is from lebanon does not have any impact on the possible solutions, unless you want to go into unconstitutional country banning territory. Not to mention that Lebonese false flag attacks are widespread enough for it to warrant it's own talking point.
[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;51906794]I'm not sure if threatening to bomb folks is a sign of mental stability, personally. Also the way it's phrased kinda implies that he's too intelligent to be a maniac, somehow.[/QUOTE] Wasn't the Colorado batman shooter a PHD student?
The fact that he's from Lebanon is important because it allows us to fairly safely conclude that he's not a white nationalist.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51909591]The fact that he's from Lebanon is important because it allows us to fairly safely conclude that he's not a white nationalist.[/QUOTE] It's so important that even the source decided to not bother adding it.
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;51909625]It's so important that even the source decided to not bother adding it.[/QUOTE] Well not in the headline but it is in the article
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