• Iran will hold US responsible for the fate of 48 Iranians in FSA custody.
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[QUOTE] Iran has launched a new campaign to intervene in the Syrian crisis, sending its top officials across the Middle East, blasting US "warmongering" and publicly backing a defiant Bashar al-Assad as the country sinks deeper into war. Saeed Jalili, Iran's powerful national security adviser, met the Syrian president in Damascus on Tuesday, while Iran's foreign minister urged Turkey and Qatar to use their influence with Syrian rebels to free 48 kidnapped Iranian pilgrims. [B]Iran said that it was holding the US responsible for the fate of the pilgrims, three of whom were reported killed in shelling on Monday.[/B] Anti-Assad fighters have claimed the pilgrims are in fact Iranian Revolutionary Guards helping suppress the 17-month long uprising. The message was passed to Switzerland, which represents US interests in Iran. [B]"Because of the US manifest support of terrorist groups and the dispatch of weapons to Syria, the US is responsible for the lives of the 48 Iranian pilgrims abducted in Damascus,"[/B] it said. Jalili pledged that Iran would not allow anything to break the "axis of resistance" of which Syria formed a "fundamental element," Syria's ad-Dounia TV reported. The phrase usually also includes Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Palestinian group Hamas, united by hostility to Israel. Assad told Jalili of "the determination of the people and government of Syria to cleanse the country of terrorists," the TV station added. Syria, said Assad, was "capable of thwarting the foreign conspiracies". Iran's burst of diplomatic activity appeared designed to take advantage of the collapse of efforts by Kofi Annan, the UN envoy on Syria, though most anti-Assad rebels, like the western and Arab countries that back them, see Iran as part of the problem and incapable of providing a solution. "The Iranians are everywhere," said one western diplomat. "It's hard to know whether they are just concerned by the pilgrim issue — if they are pilgrims —or if this a wider drive to be be proactive and avoid being isolated by the Sunni Arabs." Syrian TV broadcast pictures of the Assad-Jalili meeting — the first shown of the president since 22 July, when he appointed a defence minister to replace one of four security chiefs assassinated by the Free Syrian Army (FSA). Jalili also met Ali Mamluk, Assad's security adviser. In Tehran meanwhile, [B]Ali Larijani, the speaker of the Iranian parliament, attacked US "warmongering" and warned that its "malevolence in Syria will consume Israel".[/B] Israel has threatened to strike Iran's nuclear programme to preserve its own nuclear monopoly. On Thursday, Tehran is due to host a conference for countries it says have realistic positions on Syria. Lebanon declined the invitation but six other Arab countries are said to have accepted, along with Pakistan, Venezuela, India and Kazakhstan, as well as Russia and China, which have vetoed any UN security council action on the crisis. Next week Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is attending a summit of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference in Mecca — potentially putting him on a collision course with Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah, a key supporter of the Syrian opposition. Iran was conspicuously excluded from June's talks in Geneva on the Syrian crisis convened by Annan at the insistence of the US, Britain and the EU, which are at odds with Tehran over its nuclear ambitions and Middle East policies. Iran said that its foreign minister, Ali Akbar Salehi, would ask Turkey's Ahmet Davutoglu to intervene over the pilgrims affair and "to warn and remind the Ankara government of its responsbilities".[B] Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar were all told to stop helping "the warmongering policies of the US in Syria," in the words of the Iranian army chief of staff, Major General Seyed Hassan Firouzabadi. [/B] Jalil, visiting Lebanon on Monday, said: "We believe that Syria's friends must help to totally stop the violence, organise national dialogue and general elections in this country, and send humanitarian aid for the Syrian population." Lebanon's former prime minister, Saad Hariri, said Jalili was not welcome in Beirut at a time of mass killings by Assad. Iran has always denied allegations that it is providing military assistance to Assad but the Syrian opposition, western governments and Israel all insist it has at minimum sent advisers on security and communications. Iran is said to have passed on expertise it honed in crushing the protests that followed the disputed presidential elections in 2009. Politically Tehran has stood behind Assad while putting out feelers to some Syrian opposition groups. The two countries have had a close alliance since the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. In another regional move, Iran sent its vice-president, Hamid Baqai, to Cairo to invite the new Egyptian president, Mohamed Morsi, to attend the non-aligned summit in Tehran. Iranian-Egyptian relations have been strained for years and remain a highly sensitive issue. [B]Larijani made clear that Iran blamed the US, not Assad, for the situation in Syria. "The fire that you [the US] ignite in the Levant will swallow the terrified Zionists," he told MPs. "Kofi Annan's resignation and US contacts with certain politicians in the region and military support for the Syrian rebels that is meant to throw Syria into chaos shows there is a new plan by international criminals."[/B] [/QUOTE] So we are not only responsible for the 48 hostages, now we are responsible for the entire conflict as well? [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/07/iran-assad-syria-warmongering-us?newsfeed=true"]SOURCE[/URL]
Iran is already either incredibly stupid or batfuck crazy. This is just the icing on the crazy-cake.
Iran's responsible for supporting Assad for years.
What? Why? Russia is the one that's prolonging this conflict, if it was up to NATO this conflict would already have been over and this kidnapping would have likely never occurred.
They act as if the US would actually gives two shits about what Iran blames them for. :v:
lmao Iran.
Well the US supports them, so why not?
[QUOTE=Strongbad;37136750]Iran is already either incredibly stupid or batfuck crazy. This is just the icing on the crazy-cake.[/QUOTE] Not really. The rebels in Syria use the same guerilla-style roadside bombing and blowing up civillian tactics as Al-Queda. If you read about some of the shit they do, calling them terrorists would seem completely appropriate.
[QUOTE=Fenderson;37137680]Not really. The rebels in Syria use the same guerilla-style roadside bombing and blowing up civillian tactics as Al-Queda. If you read about some of the shit they do, calling them terrorists would seem completely appropriate.[/QUOTE] You can't make an Omelette without blowing up an Egg truck.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37137435]Well the US supports them, so why not?[/QUOTE] because holding a superpower responsible for the acts of random Syrians, in a foreign conflict for which we are not responsible for, nor had a key part in, solely on the basis that we gave aid to the Syrian people is stupid. The US has no control over the FSA. In fact the FSA doesn't even have a stable command structure. Iran knows they can't engage us in a conflict, so they skirt around it, poking and prodding us but stopping short of any actual action. They operate in the backround using the IRGC to commit acts of terror against Israelis, and assist Syria in oppressing the population by using tactics they learned in the 2009 protests. They also try to wage their war through propaganda utilizing Iranian media, like Press TV. They hate America for various reasons, and Israel, for what it did to the Palestinians, and Saudi Arabia for being an American ally and regional rival. The officials at the highest level of government are differing degrees of insane, ranging from run-of-the-mill holocaust deniers and anti-Semites, to straight up bonkers like Iran's VP who publicly said Jews are responsible for the global illegal drug trade, the Bolshevik Revolution, and have an agenda to dominate the world. In a speech to the UN, too. Their rhetoric would shame a Nazi. The Iranian people even dislike their own leadership, which makes sense because they pretty much got robbed of an election last time.
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;37137813]because holding a superpower responsible for the acts of random Syrians, in a foreign conflict for which we are not responsible for, nor had a key part in, solely on the basis that we gave aid to the Syrian people is stupid. The US has no control over the FSA. In fact the FSA doesn't even have a stable command structure. Iran knows they can't engage us in a conflict, so they skirt around it, poking and prodding us but stopping short of any actual action. They operate in the backround using the IRGC to commit acts of terror against Israelis, and assist Syria in oppressing the population by using tactics they learned in the 2009 protests. They also try to wage their war through propaganda utilizing Iranian media, like Press TV. They hate America for various reasons, and Israel, for what it did to the Palestinians, and Saudi Arabia for being an American ally and regional rival. The officials at the highest level of government are differing degrees of insane, ranging from run-of-the-mill holocaust deniers and anti-Semites, to straight up bonkers like Iran's VP who publicly said Jews are responsible for the global illegal drug trade, the Bolshevik Revolution, and have an agenda to dominate the world. In a speech to the UN, too. Their rhetoric would shame a Nazi. The Iranian people even dislike their own leadership, which makes sense because they pretty much got robbed of an election last time.[/QUOTE] So? Who the hell cares who Iran blames, its Iran.
poking a really big beehive with a really small stick
The US is behind the entire conflict. They initiated the rebellion (see CIA's military coup in Iran), they provided the rebels with weopons via saudi arabia and the mass media is hitting the public with massive amounts of propaganda to sway public opinion of Assad's goverment. Russia has had enough of US bullshit and is taking a stand to protect thier ONLY military base on foreign soil while the US wishes to instill yet more troops in somebody else's country. Anybody who disagree's is naive to the way the world works right now and will now proceed to give me boxes. Watch this space because shit is about to get real faster than you think :)
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37139136]The US is behind the entire conflict. They initiated the rebellion (see CIA's military coup in Iran), they provided the rebels with weopons via saudi arabia and the mass media is hitting the public with massive amounts of propaganda to sway public opinion of Assad's goverment. Russia has had enough of US bullshit and is taking a stand to protect thier ONLY military base on foreign soil while the US wishes to instill yet more troops in somebody else's country. Anybody who disagree's is naive to the way the world works right now and will now proceed to give me boxes. Watch this space because shit is about to get real faster than you think :)[/QUOTE] this is funny
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37139136]Anybody who disagree's is naive to the way the world works right now and will now proceed to give me boxes.[/QUOTE] Everyone take note of this. There is no point arguing with him, he has already decided you are a mindless sheep
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37139136]The US is behind the entire conflict. They initiated the rebellion (see CIA's military coup in Iran), they provided the rebels with weopons via saudi arabia and the mass media is hitting the public with massive amounts of propaganda to sway public opinion of Assad's goverment. [/QUOTE] Sources?
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37139136]The US is behind the entire conflict. They initiated the rebellion (see CIA's military coup in Iran), they provided the rebels with weopons via saudi arabia and the mass media is hitting the public with massive amounts of propaganda to sway public opinion of Assad's goverment. Russia has had enough of US bullshit and is taking a stand to protect thier ONLY military base on foreign soil while the US wishes to instill yet more troops in somebody else's country. Anybody who disagree's is naive to the way the world works right now and will now proceed to give me boxes. Watch this space because shit is about to get real faster than you think :)[/QUOTE] Is Putin a relative of yours or something?
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;37139310]Sources?[/QUOTE] [url]www.infowars.com[/url]
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37139480][url]www.infowars.com[/url][/QUOTE] I think Fox News is more trustworthy.
Oh shut the fuck up Iran You arrest everyone on suspicion of spying, hikers, backpackers, tourists, you name it
[QUOTE=smurfy;37139182]Everyone take note of this. There is no point arguing with him, he has already decided you are a mindless sheep[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2000[/url] The people of Syria really don't want to be ruled by religious tyranny puppet rule like the Saudis. Like the people of Saudi Arabia like to be ruled by fat arabs propped up by America, the Syrians want to be ruled by the skinny gimp that looks like the Beaker muppet.
[QUOTE=Fenderson;37139752][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2000[/url] The people of Syria really don't want to be ruled by religious tyranny puppet democracy just like the Saudis. Like the people of Saudi Arabia like to be ruled by fat arabs propped up by America, the Syrians want to be ruled by the skinny gimp that looks like the Beaker muppet.[/QUOTE] Looks just like Russian poll questions. 138% of Russians support Putin!
[QUOTE=Fenderson;37139752][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2000[/url] The people of Syria really don't want to be ruled by religious tyranny puppet democracy just like the Saudis. Like the people of Saudi Arabia like to be ruled by fat arabs propped up by America, the Syrians want to be ruled by the skinny gimp that looks like the Beaker muppet.[/QUOTE] What does democracy have to do with Saudi Arabia?
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37140092]What does democracy have to do with Saudi Arabia?[/QUOTE] ya i fucked up there
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37139136]The US is behind the entire conflict. They initiated the rebellion (see CIA's military coup in Iran), they provided the rebels with weopons via saudi arabia and the mass media is hitting the public with massive amounts of propaganda to sway public opinion of Assad's goverment. Russia has had enough of US bullshit and is taking a stand to protect thier ONLY military base on foreign soil while the US wishes to instill yet more troops in somebody else's country. Anybody who disagree's is naive to the way the world works right now and will now proceed to give me boxes. Watch this space because shit is about to get real faster than you think :)[/QUOTE] MAN, RUSSIA TODAY SEEMS LIKE YOUR KIND OF CHANNEL. -Syrian revolution=/=1953 Iranian coup - US doesn't give guns, the Saudis and Qatar does cause they're Sunnis who hate to see the Alawite ruling class murder innocent Sunnis. - Pro-tip: When you denounce the truth as "propaganda", without providing legitimate evidence, you are seen as a retard. By everyone. - The US doesn't want boots on the ground, did you sleep through the entire Libyan thing? - Russia's base is a cold war relic, just like alot of the US bases around the world, they have out lived their usefulness. What amazes me is Russia is willing to allow what is essentially genocide to go on in order to keep their naval base for their now defuct navy. - Yes anybody who disagrees is stupid. Thats worked before. - If shit gets real, which I hope it doesn't, then I would feel sorry for the Iranian civilians. Seeing the US decimate the infrastrucure and dismantle your armed forces is very traumatizing. I would feel sorry for all the Iranian families who are about to lose their fathers, sons, and brothers in war. Hopefully it will be short though. We took down Iraq in just 21 days. [editline]8th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=smurfy;37139182]Everyone take note of this. There is no point arguing with him, he has already decided you are a mindless sheep[/QUOTE] Shit, I went for it!
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;37139174]this is funny[/QUOTE] I see why he's called entertainer.
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