• Quebec elementary school bans homework for one year
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/coll%C3%A8ge-de-saint-ambroise-in-jonqui%C3%A8re-bans-homework-for-a-year-1.2752550[/url] [quote=CBC]Students at a Quebec elementary school may be some of the happiest in the country as they prepare for another year in the classroom. College de Saint-Ambroise, a school of 339 students in the province's Saguenay region, has introduced a near-complete ban on homework. Every class from Grade 1 to 6 will take part in the one-year pilot project. Marie-Ève Desrosiers, a spokeswoman with the Jonquière School Board, said the goal is to ease pressure on parents and even improve student performance. She explained that teachers will still be allowed to assign studying and reading work, but there won't be, for example, "four pages of math problems."[/quote]
Dude imagine being a 7th grader in Quebec who just graduated from this school hearing this.
Four pages of math problems God those assignments used to suck badly... I bet some Marvin is gonna protest this.
Homework, when done correctly, can be a really helpful too. But most of the time it is implemented horribly.
I think the issue is the difference between beneficial homework that's there for practice and general busywork.
Admittedly there isn't a lot of homework in elementary school.
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;45867976]Admittedly there isn't a lot of homework in elementary school.[/QUOTE] I don't know what kind of elementary you were in, because here in BC I got a shitload of homework (every single day).
[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;45868012]I don't know what kind of elementary you were in, because here in BC I got a shitload of homework (every single day).[/QUOTE] 30 math problems every day
Now there's going to be a kid hustling practice worksheets to the nerds at recess
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;45867976]Admittedly there isn't a lot of homework in elementary school.[/QUOTE] Starting around fourth grade I was being given 2-3 hours of it every day. Around 6th I was inundated with 4-5 hours worth, and at points during high school I had 6 bloody hours of the stuff. Absurd. And none of it of any practical use.
I prefer homework that actually has use to it Not 30 questions of the same shit over and over again
[QUOTE=Crash155;45868065]I prefer homework that actually has use to it Not 30 questions of the same shit over and over again[/QUOTE] It would be nice if most assignments actually went over the stuff done the previous days before rather than just focusing on that one particular thing you learned in class. Sounds mundane, but it would help more during final tests. Or another alternative is to at least go over the lessons several times, because my teachers never were great at explaining anything (and it seemed like they just didn't want to).
At uni Do fuck all everyday, less than HS Living the dream
In grade 12, my Pre-cal teacher would assign tons of homework but he never marked it. He would go around the class and ask "How much of it did you finish?" If you did all of it, you got a 5, if you didn't do any of it, you got a 0. It didn't affect your grade at all, but he was keeping record to see if homework completion affects how well you did in the actual course, because he has some position in the school board or something and was interested. At the start of the year he said that there was a pattern, students who did their homework would do well in the course, while students who did not do the homework would do poorly. I did absolutely none of my homework through the entire year and passed the course with an 89. Every year prior I would get shitty grades in math class because I simply didn't have the effort to work through hundreds of math-problems every night. IMO, homework should be given to students, but it should not affect their grade. Students who are having problems understanding the course will be able to do their homework and practice until they understand it, while students who know what they're doing can toss it aside. The excuse previous teachers gave me for this was "Oh, well if you know how to do it then it should be easy for you to finish!" Well yeah it's fucking easy to do the problems, but I don't have the energy to waste my evenings doing the same differently worded/numbered math problem 50 times. tl;dr, homework should be optional.
Homework where I went for Highschool was really shit. I dont know about anyone else here, but I don't learn through Repetition. If anything it bores me to death and makes me do worse. I also don't learn by taking notes, as I get too focused on writing to actually understand anything. A lot of teachers hated me for that 2nd part.
Wait, you guys did your homeworks in elementary school? Shit...
In my school(10th to 12th) we had normal homework plus presentations plus projects plus final school year project that was like 50% of the final grade. Most projects didn't get finished and we had like 2 weeks to do 1 month long things, it's bullshit. And if you don't finish your homework because you're too busy with the projects, too bad, you still get points deducted from your grade because that's how the system works. Thanks for fucking me over. fuck that bullshit
Being smart in Middle school here means you have 60 math problems that could take 5 minutes each...
[QUOTE=ProgramFiles;45868264]Wait, you guys did your homeworks in elementary school? Shit...[/QUOTE] Nobody wants to be that retard who got held back while all of his friends moved onto 4th grade
[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;45868012]I don't know what kind of elementary you were in, because here in BC I got a shitload of homework (every single day).[/QUOTE] "Please complete pages 45-55 in your textbook answering only the odd questions between 1 and 51 up to page 47 and then all the even word questions from pages 48 - 52. Complete all questions 1-108 from pages 52-55. I want to see everything complete when we meet again on Tuesday." AKA: [quote]I fucking hope you didn't have any plans for the long weekend.[/quote] I can understand over 150 questions in university but in grade 9 you're on par with ramming it down our throats.
[QUOTE=Oizen;45868247]Homework where I went for Highschool was really shit. I dont know about anyone else here, but I don't learn through Repetition. If anything it bores me to death and makes me do worse. I also don't learn by taking notes, as I get too focused on writing to actually understand anything. A lot of teachers hated me for that 2nd part.[/QUOTE] I'm the same way, especially about notes. I simply didn't need them, derived little if any use from them. They were a distraction and a waste of supplies, which from time to time were pretty fucking scarce. [editline]1st September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=pentium;45868531]"Please complete pages 45-55 in your textbook answering only the odd questions between 1 and 51 up to page 47 and then all the even word questions from pages 48 - 52. Complete all questions 1-108 from pages 52-55. I want to see everything complete when we meet again on Tuesday." [/QUOTE] Weekend homework is the [i]worst[/i] idea and I always failed to do it out of spite. I'd even tell my teachers as much. "You gave me homework for the weekend. Do you honestly expect me to eat, sleep and breathe school for 7 days a week when I'm already spending so much time here during the week that I'd be qualified for significant overtime in the workforce? Yeah sorry the world ain't working that way, and I ain't doing homework over the weekend. Those are my two days where school is not a concern, simple as that."
[QUOTE=TestECull;45868532]Weekend homework is the [i]worst[/i] idea and I always failed to do it out of spite. I'd even tell my teachers as much. "You gave me homework for the weekend. Do you honestly expect me to eat, sleep and breathe school for 7 days a week when I'm already spending so much time here during the week that I'd be qualified for significant overtime in the workforce? Yeah sorry the world ain't working that way, and I ain't doing homework over the weekend. Those are my two days where school is not a concern, simple as that."[/QUOTE] Somehow, I doubt that. I believe that you told them you didn't do it on purpose, but that cute little monolgue? Nah.
I was a massive slacker in Elementary and Middle school and didn't do shit. Not any lesser for it tbh Kids in elementary school are way too young to have homework piled on them. They should be out and enjoying there youth and good health while they still have it.
I went through primary school without doing a single bit of homework at all, I managed to just bullshit my way through years 1 - 7 with mountains of excuses I only started doing homework when I started high school
[QUOTE=En-Guage;45868213]At uni Do fuck all everyday, less than HS Living the dream[/QUOTE] In university you're in class for about half as much as highschool but your homework is 3 or 4 times as much.
Math for me is easy but the homework just takes up so much time and it doesn't make me any better or worse at math so in my opinion its pretty worthless except for bringing down your grade if you don't do it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45868813]In university you're in class for about half as much as highschool but your homework is 3 or 4 times as much.[/QUOTE] I really lucked out in my uni courses. I have never had a single course in uni where homework affected your grade in any way. It was all there to help you if you needed it, and my professors were all very competent such that I didn't need it. The only schoolwork I had out of class that was worth a grade was projects. The quarters I took linear algebra, probabilities and statistics, and numerical analysis, the average amount of time I spent on schoolwork ([b]any[/b] work) outside of class was [b]maybe[/b] three hours per week. When an exam was coming up, it'd be a bit more in the three days prior, but the majority of that was just me going through my notes and re-working the problems we did in-class. Quarters where I took just CS courses? With the exception of the quarter I took UNIX, maybe two hours a week. And that was with three 300-level CS courses (with 400-level being the highest undergraduate level; 500- and above are graduate-level) being taken simultaneously. Even when I took UNIX, I only maybe scored 5 hours per week, with maybe 30- or 40- minutes a day being spent on UNIX. There were times when I'd spend one day working for like 4 hours on UNIX, granted, but those only occurred maybe once a month, two or three times in the whole quarter. The way others talk about workloads in other universities (or even the workloads my friends have), make me really glad I managed to get the professors I did in my two years I've done at uni so far. This upcoming year is going to be light, with only two courses a quarter, so I'm expecting even more free time. Frankly, I don't know what I'll do with myself. :v:
I hated homework. Homework was an excellent catalyst in making me hate math, physics and chemistry. Almost all the time the homework was "Whatever, do EVERYTHING on the next 2-4 pages" from all three classes (usually they all had the same teacher too). And it sure as shit was fun doing homework pretty much for the rest of the day at home.
at my primary school we were given a sheet every week with like 5 questions to do and submit it on a Friday I thought it was the worst shit in the world, nowadays I'd take that 3 times over than doing high school homework [editline]2nd September 2014[/editline] most teachers at my HS set homework and "expect" you to do it, since you're in year 12 most say it's a choice but firmly believe doing a bit every night helps some don't set it at all it's just a general expectation you revise last nights notes (but nobody does) then there's ms/mr strict who you have to do homework for
[QUOTE=En-Guage;45868213]At uni Do fuck all everyday, less than HS Living the dream[/QUOTE] Nope. More like have fun with two group projects and one major individual project all simultaneously. Then throw attending lectures and tutorials and working 30 hours every week into the mix.
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