*Rant* Teachers' Disrespect for Religious Diversity - General

I've noticed that teachers these days (or mine at least) have no respect for the fact that not everyone belongs to the same religion. Two years ago, my teacher was talking about Jesus Christ, and she said: "If Jesus were to walk into this room right now, you would want to serve him right?" This insulted me, not as an atheist, but as someone who doesn't tolerate educating minors on religion, discussing religion, or even remotely influencing their beliefs publicly. I still can't believe that this is even a problem in this country (U.S) at all, this is a mixture of all different religions and ethnic backrounds. This problem also comes from people making assumptions. This happened to me the other day, me and my friend were discussing that if someone believes that the afterlife is just nothingness, it doesn't make them an atheist at all. My teacher comes up, (assuming we are all Christian, cause who isn't) and starts a discussion on the philosophies of an atheist without the slightest knowledge of any of our religious beliefs, so she stands there, telling me what atheists believe (or don't believe rather), and I, an atheist, sit there uncomfortably. Example: Before asking a child his beliefs on Christianity, she asks the child what religion he is, because he is an Arab. This shouldn't happen, someone should make sure that they know the child's beliefs, and discuss in accordance to them, not just generalize. tl;dr: Tired of teachers speaking about religion publicly in the U.S. Also, this took place in a public school English class, and History class, religion is no part of our curriculum.

A kid in my religion class asked about the pope mobile ... I never saw him again

report teachers that do that or shoot up your school or something

[QUOTE=KmScMT;20538380]report teachers that do that or shoot up your school or something[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure it is against the law to influence or teach a minor about any religious beliefs without a parent's permission.

This is why I believe religion shouldn't be part of the education system. If somebody wants to learn religion they can do it in their own time, not forcing it upon everybody else.

Religion shouldn't be allowed within 2000 feet of a school. Teach the facts and teach people to respect opinion, then you're sorted for life.

That offends me as an atheist and a secularist.

What is the context for your teacher to even begin discussing religion? Was this a religious class? Was there ongoing religious debate/question? Typically, there's more to these stories than what you say it is...

that offends me as an angsty teen who whines about everything

[QUOTE=Surreal;20538414]I am pretty sure it is against the law to influence or teach a minor about any religious beliefs without a parent's permission.[/QUOTE] You can teach a minor about religious beliefs in a religious studies class, which I agree with. Religious studies are a very important part of history and can't be ignored.

and theoretically if jesus walked into the room you would serve him because that means that he would exist and you would be wrong, sdumbass

People tend to forget that atheism means only one thing: lack of belief in a god.

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;20538462]What is the context for your teacher to even begin discussing religion? Was this a religious class? Was there ongoing religious debate/question? Typically, there's more to these stories than what you say it is...[/QUOTE] A teacher isn't even supposed to imply what their religion is. In a religious debate in a religions class they are there only to be a referee and devil's advocate.

[QUOTE=Mobzor;20538447]This is why I believe religion shouldn't be part of the education system. If somebody wants to learn religion they can do it in their own time, not forcing it upon everybody else.[/QUOTE] I agree completely. I think that some schools that actually offer religion as a class, should also have philosophy as a class, so you can pick one.

[QUOTE=Surreal;20538548]I agree completely. I think that some schools that actually offer religion as a class, should also have philosophy as a class, so you can pick one.[/QUOTE] Religion and philosophy go hand in hand with each other and a religions class will go into philosophy and vice versa.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;20538522]A teacher isn't even supposed to imply what their religion is. In a religious debate in a religions class they are there only to be a referee and devil's advocate.[/QUOTE] Which is why I'm asking what the context for this event was.

[QUOTE=Parrrky;20538494]and theoretically if jesus walked into the room you would serve him because that means that he would exist and you would be wrong, sdumbass[/QUOTE] You're an idiot. Many atheists I know believe that Christ did exist, but isn't the son of (a) God. If Jesus did exist, that doesn't mean what he is said to be is absolutely true.

[QUOTE=Mobzor;20538447]This is why I believe religion shouldn't be part of the education system. If somebody wants to learn religion they can do it in their own time, not forcing it upon everybody else.[/QUOTE] When i went to school, the religion class wasnt about preaching, it was about teaching the pupils what religions do what and their beliefs and consequences e.t.c. They didn't force a particular religion on you or anything.

religion hurr

This isn't a problem for me, I live in far south england, where there's about 5 people in my school out of 1100 who are not white brittish and I don't know of any person who is not either protestant or athiest/agnostic.

I have no tolerance for religion.

God damn it that offends me as an Anarchist I'm going to sit in my basement and write angry letters to the government.

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;20538664]Which is why I'm asking what the context for this event was.[/QUOTE] My teacher was trying to connect Jesus to Egypt, either Egypt or the Peloponnesian War. I don't see the relation, but maybe she was connecting it to Egyptian deities. However, I see no good reason that a teacher of a public history class should assume that the entire class belongs to the country's most common religion.

If some dude claiming to be Christ walked into my classroom and asked me to 'serve' him, I would. :smug: [editline]05:54PM[/editline] sucks your school is that way. Mine isn't like that most of the time. The only religious mention in my school comes from the music department where the woman in charge pumps as much Gospel in as she possible can in an effort to attract the black kids, no word of a lie.

A kid in my class back in 2006 wore a burka in class. Then the teacher said she wasn't allowed to. Her reply was "I won't be accepted by god", then the teacher pulled it down. The teacher got a 500 dollar fine.

[QUOTE=Zemog;20538965]A kid in my class back in 2006 wore a burka in class. Then the teacher said she wasn't allowed to. Her reply was "I won't be accepted by god", then the teacher pulled it down. The teacher got a 500 dollar fine.[/QUOTE] That's weird. If they can't remove a burka from a student they shouldn't be allowed to implement any dress code.

[QUOTE=Surreal;20538301]Two years ago, my teacher was talking about Jesus Christ, and she said: "If Jesus were to walk into this room right now, you would want to serve him right?[/QUOTE] If Jesus Christ walked into a room you wouldn't be atheist anymore.

[QUOTE=Mexican;20539031]If Jesus Christ walked into a room you wouldn't be atheist anymore.[/QUOTE] I might, it depends.

It's even worse when your teacher is a fanatic religious :argh: Thankfully she's no longer my teacher

[QUOTE=Surreal;20538690]You're an idiot. Many atheists I know believe that Christ did exist, but isn't the son of (a) God. If Jesus did exist, that doesn't mean what he is said to be is absolutely true.[/QUOTE] You seem to have forgotten the part where a man who's 2,000 years dead just walked into the room. Anyway tell us what you're teacher said about the philosophies of an atheist. Right now you just seem to be whining that she's even talking about it in the first place though I'm willing to bet it had a valid educational reason and not a "bro you best be accepting Christ" reason