Majority of Christian refugees suffer abuse in homes - Polidicks

[QUOTE]A huge majority of Christian refugees have been the subject of some form of harassment during their time in refugees homes, a report by a charity has found. The study published in Berlin on Monday by Open Doors, a Christian aid organization set up in 1955, found that over 80 percent of Christian refugees had been harassed by Muslims at refugee camps. In particular life was made difficult for Iranians and Afghans who had converted to Christianity. “Discrimination and violence against people of different beliefs exist in refugee centres much more extensively than authorities want to believe,” said Markus Rode, head of Open Doors. Around half of the 231 refugees who were interviewed between February and April for the report also said they felt disadvantaged or bullied by Muslim guards who worked at the refugee centres.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.thelocal.de/20160510/majority-of-christian-refugees-suffer-abuse-in-homes-report[/url]

Is anyone really shocked at all by this??? I fear that a majority of the Syrian refugees coming these days, are more-then-likely people involved with Al-Nursa, Islamic Front, and FSA. Either the families of the fighters or just straight up the fighters, of whom are trying to escape the war they are losing in the hopes of not getting their teeth kicked in by the Syrian people who have had enough of their shit. If it's even a minority, the "moderates" that Europe is allowing in are still a bunch of crazy religious fucks who believe that Sharia Law should of been put into practice in Syria. Said laws of which are influenced by the concept that those who convert from Islam deserve death, those of other religions must pay a tax or face death, and believe in some wacky ass concepts like stoning those that are unfaithful in marriage.

title made me think of domestic abuse

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50296829]Is anyone really shocked at all by this??? [B]I fear that a majority of the Syrian refugees coming these days, are more-then-likely people involved with Al-Nursa, Islamic Front, and FSA.[/B] Either the families of the fighters or just straight up the fighters, of whom are trying to escape the war they are losing in the hopes of not getting their teeth kicked in by the Syrian people who have had enough of their shit. If it's even a minority, the "moderates" that Europe is allowing in are still a bunch of crazy religious fucks who believe that Sharia Law should of been put into practice in Syria. Said laws of which are influenced by the concept that those who convert from Islam deserve death, those of other religions must pay a tax or face death, and believe in some wacky as concept like stoning those that are unfaithful in marriage.[/QUOTE] You're paranoid and delusional.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50296829]Is anyone really shocked at all by this??? I fear that a majority of the Syrian refugees coming these days, are more-then-likely people involved with Al-Nursa, Islamic Front, and FSA. Either the families of the fighters or just straight up the fighters, of whom are trying to escape the war they are losing in the hopes of not getting their teeth kicked in by the Syrian people who have had enough of their shit. If it's even a minority, the "moderates" that Europe is allowing in are still a bunch of crazy religious fucks who believe that Sharia Law should of been put into practice in Syria. Said laws of which are influenced by the concept that those who convert from Islam deserve death, those of other religions must pay a tax or face death, and believe in some wacky ass concepts like stoning those that are unfaithful in marriage.[/QUOTE] At least cite some sources before everyone gets into the same old arguments we always have.

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50296905]At least cite some sources before everyone gets into the same old arguments we always have.[/QUOTE] Did you not read the OP?

[QUOTE=Corewarp3;50296925]Did you not read the OP?[/QUOTE] the op doesn't jump from harassment to terrorist affiliations

[QUOTE=Corewarp3;50296925]Did you not read the OP?[/QUOTE] Did you not read his post? I wasn't even accusing him of being wrong (though I'm doubtful), he made a huge leap without backing it up at all.

With the total number of refugees being in the hundreds of thousands, does 231 really represent a fair sample size Not to be blunt but the other refugees are also harassed by probably the same groups too, single women with children, elderly, and teens all have been reported harassed by these types of men who either have authority or pretend to, it's shitty that they think they are somehow socially superior to everybody else even though they are all in the same metaphorical boat and shouldnt drag that shit from Syria with them

It mentions Afghans and Iranians who have converted, in which case they are being harrassed and abused not because they are christians, but because they are Apostates. To Islam, an Apostate is worse than a Christian or a Jew (who are protected in Islam) or an Atheist. Apostates, according to Islam, must be executed. edit: I shouldn't have to say this, but I'm not condoning abuse of religious minorities or apostates

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50297162]It mentions Afghans and Iranians who have converted, in which case they are being harrassed and abused not because they are christians, but because they are Apostates. To Islam, an Apostate is worse than a Christian or a Jew (who are protected in Islam) or an Atheist. Apostates, according to Islam, must be executed.[/QUOTE] SO that makes it okay?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50296829]Is anyone really shocked at all by this??? I fear that a majority of the Syrian refugees coming these days, are more-then-likely people involved with Al-Nursa, Islamic Front, and FSA. Either the families of the fighters or just straight up the fighters, of whom are trying to escape the war they are losing in the hopes of not getting their teeth kicked in by the Syrian people who have had enough of their shit. If it's even a minority, the "moderates" that Europe is allowing in are still a bunch of crazy religious fucks who believe that Sharia Law should of been put into practice in Syria. Said laws of which are influenced by the concept that those who convert from Islam deserve death, those of other religions must pay a tax or face death, and believe in some wacky ass concepts like stoning those that are unfaithful in marriage.[/QUOTE] if that many people were some sort of evil militant then we'd be in a world war right now, but who knew, the majority of syria is not made up of people with ak47s burning bibles [editline]10th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=proboardslol;50297162]It mentions Afghans and Iranians who have converted, in which case they are being harrassed and abused not because they are christians, but because they are Apostates. To Islam, an Apostate is worse than a Christian or a Jew (who are protected in Islam) or an Atheist. Apostates, according to Islam, must be executed.[/QUOTE] who is islam

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50297249]SO that makes it okay?[/QUOTE] No, just pointing out an interpretation of the events. [editline]11th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;50297318]who is islam[/QUOTE] Fine, according to the qu'ran: [quote=http://quran.com/4/89] They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper. [/quote]

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50297162]It mentions Afghans and Iranians who have converted, in which case they are being harrassed and abused not because they are christians, but because they are Apostates. [B]To Islam, an Apostate is worse than a Christian or a Jew (who are protected in Islam) or an Atheist. Apostates, according to Islam, must be executed.[/B][/QUOTE] So fucking what, this harassment is unacceptable in a modern society. It's more that generally there has been a lot more borderline (if not actual) apologism for this sort of behaviour going around.

[QUOTE=Thlis;50297380]So fucking what, this harassment is unacceptable in a modern society.[/QUOTE] Not apologizing for it, just offering commentary. I agree with you

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50297331]Fine, according to the qu'ran:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden). But if they revert to [open] enmity, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them[/QUOTE] its a quote about fighting opression and persecution that, like every quote people in sh like to pull out, is terribly out of context

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50296829]Is anyone really shocked at all by this??? I fear that a majority of the Syrian refugees coming these days, are more-then-likely people involved with Al-Nursa, Islamic Front, and FSA. Either the families of the fighters or just straight up the fighters, of whom are trying to escape the war they are losing in the hopes of not getting their teeth kicked in by the Syrian people who have had enough of their shit. If it's even a minority, the "moderates" that Europe is allowing in are still a bunch of crazy religious fucks who believe that Sharia Law should of been put into practice in Syria. Said laws of which are influenced by the concept that those who convert from Islam deserve death, those of other religions must pay a tax or face death, and believe in some wacky ass concepts like stoning those that are unfaithful in marriage.[/QUOTE] Normal everyday Christians harass Muslims all the time and they don't get called terrorists for it. I don't see what being a regular dick has anything to do with terrorism.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50297249]SO that makes it okay?[/QUOTE] He just gave an information. Why are you assuming this provocative bullshit?

[QUOTE=Killuah;50297900]He just gave an indormation. Why are you assuming this provocative bullshit?[/QUOTE] Because ignorant people have a really hard time recognizing the difference between [i]explaining[/i] something and [i]excusing[/i] it. He explained why this might be occurring, and people jumped as if he was trying to excuse the behavior, when he really obviously wasn't. He's right, though - it's not about Muslims discriminating against Christians. The vast majority of places that were under Muslim rule throughout history allowed other religions to coexist in peace - Christians, Hindus, Buddhist, Zoroastrians, Jews, all minority religious groups. Under past Islamic States and Caliphates, people who were not raised Muslim and were not ex-Muslim apostates were termed [I]dhimmi[/I], which translates to "protected person." They weren't required to follow many parts of Sharia law, they were permitted to have their own communal/religious courts of law and legal strictures, and they were protected as distinct groups. They paid some taxes ([I]jizya[/I]), and they were prohibited from taking part in political activities (because it was a Muslim state), but they were otherwise protected from illegal activity the same as other Muslims were. Muslims in the caliphates/islamic states paid [i]higher taxes[/i] that non-Muslims, so it wasn't like they were preying on non-Muslim groups for money, even though it was a discriminatory tax. Groups like ISIS are trying to enforce [I]jizya[/I] and other shit on Christian minority groups, and then slaughtering them if they refuse. Sharia law [i]explicitly excludes those who are unable to pay[/i]. It's fundamentalist bullshit that goes against the historical implementation of Sharia law that they're so desperate to see applied around the world. Not to mention, there's plenty of debate between modernist/traditionalist Muslims concerning the Quranic verse "there is no compulsion in religion," and how the death penalty for apostates is contradictory. Modernists are hugely against it, traditionalists tend to make apostasy somewhat difficult to achieve, and fundamentalists just slaughter everyone who doesn't convert immediately. With that background, if Muslim refugees are acting against non-apostate Christians, they're violating their own religious law. If they're harassing apostates, it's more consistent with their religious text than if they were harassing born-and-raised Christians. Still sick and unfair - but more consistent with Muslim religious beliefs than harassing people that are explicitly protected under Sharia.