Is AMD no longer making motherboards? I saw that they have the PCI X 3.0 Cards (HD 7000 Series), but AMD hasn't released a Motherboard that supports it. Does that mean if I want to get a 7000 card I will have to change to an Intel chipset? I refuse to go to Nvidia, so don't suggest that.
My Current Build:
Motherboard: MSI 870A-G55 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (Discontinued)
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB
CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 Black Edition Thuban @ 4.0GHz
RAM: 12GB of Corsair Vengence RAM
Could anyone make me an affordable build for Intel that will allow to Render video?
They still make cpus, motherboards, graphics cards, server cores, etc. They just don't normally do them directly like Intel does. They tend to rely on third parties like Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte, etc to do a lot of the production.
I think you are confusing PCI X with PCI-e.
The 7000 Series uses PCI-e not PCI X.
You won't really have an performance boost if you upgrade to 3.0.
And 3.0 is compatible with 2.0 so it should even work on your current mobo without any problems.
Since you say affordable get the Saphire Radeon HD7770.
If you have like 100€ more get the Sapphire Radeon HD7850 OC 2GB.
[QUOTE=Leystryku;37896033]I think you are confusing PCI X with PCI-e.
The 7000 Series uses PCI-e not PCI X.
You won't really have an performance boost if you upgrade to 3.0.
And 3.0 is compatible with 2.0 so it should even work on your current mobo without any problems.
Since you say affordable get the Saphire Radeon HD7770.
If you have like 100€ more get the Sapphire Radeon HD7850 OC 2GB.[/QUOTE]
Eh, the 7770 isn't better than the 6850, really. OP, I'd wait for the 8*** cards.
[QUOTE=Leystryku;37896033]I think you are confusing PCI X with PCI-e.
The 7000 Series uses PCI-e not PCI X.
You won't really have an performance boost if you upgrade to 3.0.
And 3.0 is compatible with 2.0 so it should even work on your current mobo without any problems.
Since you say affordable get the Saphire Radeon HD7770.
If you have like 100€ more get the Sapphire Radeon HD7850 OC 2GB.[/QUOTE]
I meant PCI-e I just couldn't remember the correct term at that time. And if you look on newegg, there are no new AMD chipset boards that have pci-e 3.0. Why would you put a 3.0 into a 2.0. I believe then there would be no performance increase.
[editline]3rd October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;37896210]Eh, the 7770 isn't better than the 6850, really. OP, I'd wait for the 8*** cards.[/QUOTE]
Yea you're right... wtf was AMD thinking. did they do the cards out of order? the 7000 series is worse than most of the 6000 series.
The 7970 is beast, but it's also almost $500
[QUOTE=Cpt.Hubba;37897343]I meant PCI-e I just couldn't remember the correct term at that time. And if you look on newegg, there are no new AMD chipset boards that have pci-e 3.0. Why would you put a 3.0 into a 2.0. I believe then there would be no performance increase.[/QUOTE]
there's no performance difference anyway
even modern high end cards don't need more bandwidth than 2.0 x16
hell PCI-E 2.0 x8 / 1.1 x16 is still an unnoticeable difference
[img]http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/images/perfrel.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Cpt.Hubba;37897343]I meant PCI-e I just couldn't remember the correct term at that time. And if you look on newegg, there are no new AMD chipset boards that have pci-e 3.0. Why would you put a 3.0 into a 2.0. I believe then there would be no performance increase.
[editline]3rd October 2012[/editline]
Yea you're right... wtf was AMD thinking. did they do the cards out of order? the 7000 series is worse than most of the 6000 series.
The 7970 is beast, but it's also almost $500[/QUOTE]
They changed the series with the 6*** series. With the 4*** and 5 series the 58** were the best cards, the 57** the second best. In the 6*** it was changed, so that the best cards were now the 69** and the second best was the 68**.
Just a quick question, why do you refuse to go Nvidia OP? I mean for the time being AMD's cards are way better price for performance, but I was just curious on what you had against Nvidia?
I tend to find amd are almost always better in the mid-range, and nvidia in the higher range, but I don't think it's really a rule you could use since there are so many exceptions.
[QUOTE=d3v1n816;37899675]Just a quick question, why do you refuse to go Nvidia OP? I mean for the time being AMD's cards are way better price for performance, but I was just curious on what you had against Nvidia?[/QUOTE]
Nvidia's low-end cards are pretty bad (or rather non-existant) - and the 8*** will probably bring AMD on top at least until Nvidia 7** series is released.
[QUOTE=d3v1n816;37899675]Just a quick question, why do you refuse to go Nvidia OP? I mean for the time being AMD's cards are way better price for performance, but I was just curious on what you had against Nvidia?[/QUOTE]
Nvidia performance video cards have been power hogs and furnaces since pretty much the 8800GTX. Not to mention the steep price points vs. performance. While ATI/AMD isn't flawless, their GPUs have a far better performance per watt ratio and power savings that Nvidia hasn't been able to touch ever.
[QUOTE=bohb;37919228]Nvidia performance video cards have been power hogs and furnaces since pretty much the 8800GTX. Not to mention the steep price points vs. performance. While ATI/AMD isn't flawless, their GPUs have a far better performance per watt ratio and power savings that Nvidia hasn't been able to touch ever.[/QUOTE]
In the low-end, sure - but the Nvidia holds the performance/watt corwn right now, and they've done that since the GTX 460.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;37920222]In the low-end, sure - but the Nvidia holds the performance/watt corwn right now, and they've done that since the GTX 460.[/QUOTE]
Only above $500, but most people cannot/will not spring for that.
660 TI and I believe the 560 TI are power efficient. 680 isn't bad either as I recall. 460s are showing their age, but were pretty good for their time. 660 TI is comprable to AMDs offerings as I recall. Slightly better load wattage, slightly worse idle wattage.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37921764]660 TI and I believe the 560 TI are power efficient. 680 isn't bad either as I recall. 460s are showing their age, but were pretty good for their time. 660 TI is comprable to AMDs offerings as I recall. Slightly better load wattage, slightly worse idle wattage.[/QUOTE]
The only place AMD is dominating watt-wise is long idle performance. Nvidia is far ahead when it comes to load performance.
I think the non-Ti version of the GTX 660 is pretty good, it's better than the HD 7850 in most benchmarks, pretty much the same power consumption, the only difference is the price, you can get the HD 7850 for 150€ while the 660 (non-ti) is around 200€
You get what you pay for, and you can't go wrong with either, but honestly the best bang for your buck is the HD 7850
[QUOTE=DrBreen;37950695]I think the non-Ti version of the GTX 660 is pretty good, it's better than the HD 7850 in most benchmarks, pretty much the same power consumption, the only difference is the price, you can get the HD 7850 for 150€ while the 660 (non-ti) is around 200€
You get what you pay for, and you can't go wrong with either, but honestly the best bang for your buck is the HD 7850[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the 7850 is amazing for the price, but watt-wise Nvidia is still leading.
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