well duh how would the lunar cycle impact mental health anyways?
i mean the moon is so weak it can only pull something with the surface area of an ocean by a few meters, how could it make an impact on an individual's brain?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38593134]well duh how would the lunar cycle impact mental health anyways?
i mean the moon is so weak it can only pull something with the surface area of an ocean by a few meters, how could it make an impact on an individual's brain?[/QUOTE]
Move it away a few metres from reality
My mum thinks the Full Moon causes people to go insane and drink blood, and she won't take this. At least I know this myth has been debunked, it was stupid to begin with.
i mean the equivalent tidal force put on our body would be completely negligible. probably comparable to having a feather pushing on your head
Wait but I thought full moons caused periods
Who thought this to begin with? I have never even heard of it.
I don't care what this study says. People still go out and do stupid shit just because it's a full moon. It might not affect them, but it sure influences them.
It's odd they studied it based on "number of patients who show up at hospital emergency rooms experiencing psychological problems."
Go outside and see for yourself. No one is going to the emergency room to admit they're a little edgy or doing stupid stuff.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;38593296]It might not affect them, but it sure influences them.[/QUOTE]
remember kids - don't full moon and drive
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38593134]well duh how would the lunar cycle impact mental health anyways?
i mean the moon is so weak it can only pull something with the surface area of an ocean by a few meters, how could it make an impact on an individual's brain?[/QUOTE]
Firstly, tides have nothing to do with the moon's phases. Secondly, there theoretically [B]could[/B] be something about the full moon in the sky that affected people psychologically, either through social conditioning (myths about werewolves and stuff make people associate the full moon with madness, therefore it affects them mentally) or something innate for some reason. However this study, if it's reliable, would indicate that that isn't going to be the case.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;38593296]I don't care what this study says. People still go out and do stupid shit just because it's a full moon. It might not affect them, but it sure influences them.
It's odd they studied it based on "number of patients who show up at hospital emergency rooms experiencing psychological problems."
Go outside and see for yourself. No one is going to the emergency room to admit they're a little edgy or doing stupid stuff.[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Lick;38593184]Wait but I thought full moons caused periods[/QUOTE]
You've got the wrong tidal forces there buddy..
[QUOTE=yawmwen;38593134]well duh how would the lunar cycle impact mental health anyways?
i mean the moon is so weak it can only pull something with the surface area of an ocean by a few meters, how could it make an impact on an individual's brain?[/QUOTE]
Makes about as much sense as flaming balls of gas millions upon millions of miles away affecting the events of our day to day lives.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;38593296]I don't care what this study says. People still go out and do stupid shit just because it's a full moon. It might not affect them, but it sure influences them.
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Correlation/causation fallacy merged with unfounded and speculative opinion in lieu of evidence to the contrary.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;38593296]It's odd they studied it based on "number of patients who show up at hospital emergency rooms experiencing psychological problems."[/QUOTE]
Read the journal..
"Between March 11th, 2005, and April 30th, 2008 .... Significant impacts of seasons (Fig. 1) were found for panic attacks and anxiety disorders other than panic disorder. The probability of reporting a panic attack was 37% higher during spring .... and 37% lower during autumn .... . Anxiety disorders other than panic disorder were 58% more likely to be encountered during summer .... . Mood disorders and suicidal ideation showed no seasonal patterns. No significant impacts of lunar cycles were observed on panic, anxiety and mood disorders, or suicidal ideation (Fig. 1). There was one exception: anxiety disorders other than panic disorder were 32%" less frequent during the last quarter .... .
They studied physical conditions as well as psychological conditions.
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[B]Reference:[/B]
Geneviève Belleville, Guillaume Foldes-Busque, Mélanie Dixon, Évelyne Marquis-Pelletier, Sarah Barbeau, Julien Poitras, Jean-Marc Chauny, Jean G. Diodati, Richard Fleet, André Marchand. Impact of seasonal and lunar cycles on psychological symptoms in the ED: an empirical investigation of widely spread beliefs. General Hospital Psychiatry, 2012; DOI: 10.1016/j.genhosppsych.2012.10.002[/SUB][/SUB]
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;38593296]Go outside and see for yourself. No one is going to the emergency room to admit they're a little edgy or doing stupid stuff.[/QUOTE]
Hooray, you have an opinion!
If the full moon affects people then the new moon should affect people, but there aren't as many myths about the new moon.
People just want their superstition.
Why not investigate the number of violent and non violent crimes during the full moon phase.
That seems like it would make more fucking sense than seeing how many people check into a mental hospital.
It does has an effect in, for example, idiots who think it DOES have an effect on them...
[QUOTE=SaltyWaters;38593799]Why not investigate the number of violent and non violent crimes during the full moon phase.
That seems like it would make more fucking sense than seeing how many people check into a mental hospital.[/QUOTE]
because they were investigating instances of mental problems, not crime in general
Then this truly is a sensationalist headline.
[QUOTE=dass;38593868]It does has an effect in, for example, idiots who think it DOES have an effect on them...[/QUOTE]
That's called a placebo.
I don't know why but for some reason I have really bad troubles catching sleep when it's full moon. It's weird because I never pay attention to the moon and I always realize it after spending the whole night looking at the ceiling. I don't wait for it to happen so it's not the usual placebo. I'm not one of the guys who believe in all sorts of bullshit either.
Maybe my subconscious is more aware of the moon cycle than I am.
E: Oh shit. Inspired by this thread I went to check when it's the next full moon and it's in 2 days. Now because the sleep problems have frequently occured before, I'm expecting it to happen, and because of that, it will surely happen.
Emergency Room Visits, and 911 calls increase on full moons, even if the study states that it has no affect on the brain.
There is a correlation, and any cop,firefighter,nurse, EMT, or doctor you ask out there will tell you.
[QUOTE=Negrul1;38593390]Firstly, tides have nothing to do with the moon's phases. Secondly, there theoretically [B]could[/B] be something about the full moon in the sky that affected people psychologically, either through social conditioning (myths about werewolves and stuff make people associate the full moon with madness, therefore it affects them mentally) or something innate for some reason. However this study, if it's reliable, would indicate that that isn't going to be the case.[/QUOTE]
actually lunar cycle does have to do with tides because the sun and moon align to pull on the oceans harder when the moon is aligned with the earth
[editline]26th November 2012[/editline]
when there is a 90degree angle between the moon, earth, and sun then the tides are noticeably weaker
this is the spring-neap cycle
It's a placebo.
Aw crap, sorry. Late.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;38594145]Emergency Room Visits, and 911 calls increase on full moons, even if the study states that it has no affect on the brain.
There is a correlation, and any cop,firefighter,nurse, EMT, or doctor you ask out there will tell you.[/QUOTE]
Because anecdotal evidence trumps the data. :downs:
Didn't QI simply said it was because nights are lighter and more crimes are spotted and reported. Especially in the older days before street lights where this myth originated
Occam's Razor
[QUOTE=Maucer;38594091]I don't know why but for some reason I have really bad troubles catching sleep when it's full moon. It's weird because I never pay attention to the moon and I always realize it after spending the whole night looking at the ceiling. I don't wait for it to happen so it's not the usual placebo. I'm not one of the guys who believe in all sorts of bullshit either.
Maybe my subconscious is more aware of the moon cycle than I am.
E: Oh shit. Inspired by this thread I went to check when it's the next full moon and it's in 2 days. Now because the sleep problems have frequently occured before, I'm expecting it to happen, and because of that, it will surely happen.[/QUOTE]
Something to consider. Do you have blinds, or shades, or something to close your room down? I know for a fact that I sleep radically differently, and hit REM at different intervals when I have moon light hitting me. Even indirect light changes my sleeping behavior. If you don't have a way to completely block the light, that may have something to do with what you are experiencing.
When I was in high school, teachers would always claim that kids acted up more on days of a full moon (whether or not the moon was even visible) and would always attribute kids acting weird to the moon. The class would get really loud and they would say stuff like, "Is there a full moon tonight? hurr hurr".
I always thought it was a load of horse shit.
full moon gives me a boner explain that 'scientist'
[QUOTE=Lick;38593184]Wait but I thought full moons caused periods[/QUOTE]
High tide
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