Ireland Prime Minister tells Catholic church they aren't running the country anymore
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Source: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/world/europe/ireland-recalibrates-ties-to-roman-catholic-church.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all[/url]
Summary:
Ireland's always held the Catholic church in reverence - so the Vatican's been calling most of the shots. But the Irish have finally realized that the Catholics can't be trusted (because of all the child-fucking cases), so the Irish Prime Minister told them to fuck off. So the only people calling the shots in Ireland now is the Irish.
About damn time
Awesome. It's a shame to see chuch and state inseperable - they need to remain seperate or else people become far too biased.
Good. The Catholics have had far too much power since the start.
Yeah but to be honest, I'm not sure if we can be trusted calling the shots either.
About time.
[QUOTE=Hiccuper;32380832]Yeah but to be honest, I'm not sure if we can be trusted calling the shots either.[/QUOTE]
If the Irish decide on something in Ireland, they feel the effects immediately - and can immediately backpedal if it turns out to be bad.
If the Vatican decides, the Irish feel the effects immediately, but the Vatican does not - and may or may not switch it back depending on what their motives for such a decision are.
Too bad our government have their heads so far up their own arses it wont make much of a difference.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;32381280]Too bad our government have their heads so far up their own arses it wont make much of a difference.[/QUOTE]
It's better than the human centipede of incompetence that we had going with the Vatican I guess.
Good for Ireland
Irish Prime Minister is manning the fuck up
Fuck yeah secularism!
[release]This is still a country where abortion is against the law, where divorce became legal only in 1995, where the church runs more than 90 percent of the primary schools and where 87 percent of the population identifies itself as Catholic. [/release]
Well holy fuck, I had no idea it was that bad.
About time you made this call, Ireland.
Does this mean my trip to Ireland will be more enjoyable than it was already piling up to be? :v:
so i guess all those kiddies werent fiddled in vain
Now you just need to kick those pesky marmalade drinking Brits out of North Ireland.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32382658][release]This is still a country where abortion is against the law, where divorce became legal only in 1995, where the church runs more than 90 percent of the primary schools and where 87 percent of the population identifies itself as Catholic. [/release]
Well holy fuck, I had no idea it was that bad.
About time you made this call, Ireland.[/QUOTE]
Jesus Christ, I was thinking of going there for my family but I never knew they were ultra religious. Fuck that. That's worse than where I live in the United States.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;32386744]Jesus Christ, I was thinking of going there for my family but I never knew they were ultra religious. Fuck that. That's worse than where I live in the United States.[/QUOTE]
barely any younger people go to church nowadays, it's not as bad as you think
Even in the west were I live, nobody talks about religion. If people go to church they just go.
Well if by shots you're talking about whiskey then I'm sure you'll all do fine.
Fuck yes.
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[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;32386744]Jesus Christ, I was thinking of going there for my family but I never knew they were ultra religious. Fuck that. That's worse than where I live in the United States.[/QUOTE]
Yeah except it's not actually that bad.
Only the old people still go to church.
In fact the church in my town only does mass every 2nd week because no-one was showing up. :v:
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;32386744]Jesus Christ, I was thinking of going there for my family but I never knew they were ultra religious. Fuck that. That's worse than where I live in the United States.[/QUOTE]
Wait, you base where you go on holidays around the country's religiousness?
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Also, the only Hail Mary's I ever do are Cocktails. Ireland's pretty religious but they don't try to shove down your throat all the time. It's just our heritage.
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But on the funnier side, we get some fantastic ads thanks to the Catholic church.
This was in a programme at a sports final.
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Damn straight. That 87% of people being Roman Catholics is bullshit too, taken from the Census before this one. It's a LOT lower than that. The hate against the church is actually so widespread here that the Vatican changed Canon Law so that once you're baptised, you cannot formally defect from the church. This was after many people tried to leave the church. Even sites like CountMeOut.ie helped get people out of the hellhole that is the Catholic Church. Makes me wish I left sooner, now I can't.
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[QUOTE=rooky;32389503]Damn straight. That 87% of people being Roman Catholics is bullshit too, taken from the Census before this one. It's a LOT lower than that. The hate against the church is actually so widespread here that the Vatican changed Canon Law so that once you're baptised, you cannot formally defect from the church. This was after many people tried to leave the church. Even sites like CountMeOut.ie helped get people out of the hellhole that is the Catholic Church. Makes me wish I left sooner, now I can't.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me for my ignorance, but I have no clue what you mean by that. How do they prevent you from leaving? Can't you just...you know, leave?
[QUOTE=rooky;32389503]Damn straight. That 87% of people being Roman Catholics is bullshit too, taken from the Census before this one. It's a LOT lower than that. The hate against the church is actually so widespread here that the Vatican changed Canon Law so that once you're baptised, you cannot formally defect from the church. This was after many people tried to leave the church. Even sites like CountMeOut.ie helped get people out of the hellhole that is the Catholic Church. Makes me wish I left sooner, now I can't.[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight.
The vatican actually decides what people do or don't do?
In this day and age?
Why can't you just go to your local legislative office and demand that you're no longer counted as a catholic?
[QUOTE=Miskav;32389770]Let me get this straight.
The vatican actually decides what people do or don't do?
In this day and age?[/QUOTE]
The Irish are too lazy to get up on whatever day it is we're actually supposed to go to church.
Religion is dying in Ireland the same as everywhere else.
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