• CRTC Announces New Targets for Broadband Speed and Access in Canada
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Source: [URL]http://openmedia.ca/blog/crtc-announces-new-targets-broadband-access-and-speeds-canada[/URL] [quote] Yesterday, the CRTC announced new targets and minimum speeds for broadband access across Canada. The CRTC aims for everyone to have broadband access by the end of 2015 with download speeds of at least 5 mbps. Currently, 80% of Canadians have access to broadband Internet at these speeds but due to the challenges of geography, rural and remote areas often fall behind. These new targets are an important update to basic service requirements for telephone and Internet service outlined by the CRTC in 1999, meant to guarantee everyone a basic level of service to telephone and Internet services. The CRTC expects that these targets will be met through a combination of private investments and targeted government funding and will be monitoring industry's progress. However, the CRTC chose not to designate the internet as a basic service and decided against providing subsidies in order to meet the targets, relying instead on "market forces" to provide improved service for consumers. This has some doubting whether the targets will be met in areas that are harder or less profitable to service.[/quote]Extra reading: [URL]http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-291.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.thewirereport.ca/reports/content/12372-crtc_sets_national_broadband_target_dodges_subsidy_fund_for_deployment[/URL] [URL]http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/05/04/technology-internet-speed-canada.html[/URL] Gosh, 5mbps. I hardly know what to do with myself.
Damn 5Mbps sounds so slow to me now. Good to see this being done, hopefully the US pushes something like this too. I still know people on 56k...
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29625198]Damn 5Mbps sounds so slow to me now. Good to see this being done, hopefully the US pushes something like this too. I still know people on 56k...[/QUOTE] I like waiting for my porn thank you very much. :colbert:
[quote]However, the CRTC chose not to designate the internet as a basic service and decided against providing subsidies in order to meet the targets, relying instead on "market forces" to provide improved service for consumers.[/quote] Nothing will change then.
I dont know where you guys live but here i get a healthy 8 mbps
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29626396]Nothing will change then.[/QUOTE] "market forces"=invisible hand of the free market
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29626564]"market forces"=invisible hand of the free market[/QUOTE] Yes and from what you can tell, how's that worked out so far for us. The answer is not good btw. I remember there was another key economist that refuted the invisible hand and it's effectiveness and stated government intervention, among other things, was key.
I only get 5mbps and I live in the fucking city. We have next to no good unlimited Internet in Toronto, and because my parents have some irrational hatred of cable due to something Rogers did years ago they refuse to get Teksavvy cable because "all cable goes through Rogers and Rogers is terrible."
I get 2 Mbps.:saddowns: Stop your bitching, please.
[QUOTE=Ironic Man;29629368]I get 2 Mbps.:saddowns: Stop your bitching, please.[/QUOTE] Complaining is how things get fixed.
I never understood Mbps conversion :v: 1.1 Megabytes for second but people Megabits so I get confused :v:
8Mbps = 1MBps
Ah okay.
I'm waiting for the UBB hammer to fall. Fucking hell...
[QUOTE=Armyis1337;29626816]Yes and from what you can tell, how's that worked out so far for us. The answer is not good btw. I remember there was another key economist that refuted the invisible hand and it's effectiveness and stated government intervention, among other things, was key.[/QUOTE] You're failing to see that this same 'invisible hand' has provided you with access to broadband in the first place, no matter how unfavorable you might see it being compared to the supposed superiority of government to provide this service, you can't deny it's existence. [editline]e[/editline] I removed the first bit because I'd like you to state which economist specifically said this.
[QUOTE=s0beit;29630057]You're failing to see that this same 'invisible hand' has provided you with access to broadband in the first place, no matter how unfavorable you might see it being compared to the supposed superiority of government to provide this service, you can't deny it's existence. [editline]e[/editline] I removed the first bit because I'd like you to state which economist specifically said this.[/QUOTE] Actually, I live in a rural area. The government had to force ISP's to get phone and broadband out here.
I'm at a max speed of 1.5 mbps right now and I'm paying for 3. :smith: fuck bell
[QUOTE=s0beit;29630057]You're failing to see that this same 'invisible hand' has provided you with access to broadband in the first place, no matter how unfavorable you might see it being compared to the supposed superiority of government to provide this service, you can't deny it's existence.[/QUOTE] What about those of us who are on an ISP run by the crown In fact it was government intervention that brought telecommunications to all of the prairie provinces, not private industry: [quote]The three prairie provinces, at separate times up to 1912, acquired Bell Canada operations and formed provincial utility services, investing to develop proper telephone services throughout those provinces; Bell Canada's investment in the prairies had been scant or insufficient relative to growth. Having achieved a high level of development, Manitoba moved to privatize its telephone utility and Alberta privatized Alberta Government Telephones to create Telus in the 1990s. Saskatchewan continues to own SaskTel as a crown corporation. Edmonton was served by a city-owned utility that was sold to Telus of Alberta in 1995.[/quote] If it were up to the invisible hand of the free market I probably wouldn't have broadband
[QUOTE=ShaRose;29643278]Actually, I live in a rural area. The government had to force ISP's to get phone and broadband out here.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;29644195]What about those of us who are on an ISP run by the crown In fact it was government intervention that brought telecommunications to all of the prairie provinces, not private industry: If it were up to the invisible hand of the free market I probably wouldn't have broadband[/QUOTE] That's fun if you're thinking a few seconds ahead of yourself. First, back in the early 2000s rural areas in America didn't have broadband access and instead usually used satellite connection, because seriously the place i was at (at the time) was a single farm in the middle of nowhere. I don't know what your policy is on those types of places but i doubt they extend service to those people as well. In any case, as technology progresses it becomes more practical to supply people with those goods. If you think about it, using your logic people in the middle of nowhere shouldn't have phones or 56k at all if there was no force bringing technology out there. Eventually, it becomes cost effective. If you force them to do it before it's a viable solution then you're probably just wasting people's money (maybe you don't think they deserve it, whatever) but the point is it gets there eventually like everything else. You can be impatient and say it happens too slowly, but it happens. You act as if it's a real possibility that private industry would never, ever expand broadband services to your area and that you'd be internet-less for the entirety of your life, that isn't true. As for government ISPs you know i oppose them, or if you didn't there you go, if they fail to expand services then blame them, hell i don't know.
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